This week, Carmen talks with Elisabeth Jones about her new book Midrashic Imagination: Texts and Textures for Pulpit and Pew (available from Fortress Press or your favourite local bookseller in the US, and from Chapters or by special order from your favourite local bookstore in Canada). Jones argues for an approach to preaching that facilitates holy inspiration, transformational discipleship, and faithful public witness. What she demonstrates in this book is a tested method of midrashic biblical imagination that enables preachers and their communities of faith to explore the polyvalence of the biblical text. In Midrashic Imagination, Jones draws on ancient and contemporary interpretive practices that privilege curiosity, open-ended questioning, and faithful imagination. Jones's midrashic biblical imagination enables the preacher and congregation, or people in other communal settings, to unlock the various interpretive possibilities of any biblical text or genre. Midrashic Imagination provides an approach to Scripture that delays judgment, works across confessional and theological differences, and invites inquiry and curiosity centered on the biblical text. Midrashic Imagination is designed for working preachers who are called to preach biblically while searching for a solid, adaptable method to take the Bible imaginatively too. This book is a good fit for preachers focused on the sacred connection between the lively word of God in Scripture and today's cultural landscape, spiritual longings, hopes, and fears. Elisabeth Jones is a theologian, preacher, author, pastor, community builder, and lover of gardening, grandparenting, sourdough baking, and wor(l)d turning. Holding degrees from York University, UK, Vancouver School of Theology M.Div., Th.M.), and Luther Seminary (D.Min.), and ordained in the United Church of Canada in 1998, Elisabeth has served as theological educator at the Vancouver School of Theology, and at the United Theological College (Montreal), and as Lead Minister at Cedar Park United, in Pointe Claire, Quebec. Elisabeth is the author of Midrashic Imagination: Texts and Textures for Pulpit and Pew (Fortress, 2026), and now devotes much of her professional time to sharing this deeply faithful, imaginative and transformative way of reading sacred texts in community. The rest of the time, she can be found in her garden trying to coexist with rabbits, groundhogs and various insects who like her veggie patch as much as she does. Or travelling or pickleball playing with her husband. Or getting into mischief with her grandchildren. Or…. Support the show Thanks for your interest in Church-y Conversations with People Who Know Things. If something in this episode stuck with you, hit subscribe and leave a rating or review! It genuinely helps others find these conversations. And if you know someone you think would benefit from this conversation, share this episode with them! Until next time: keep asking the church-y questions and having church-y conversations.