The Third Conversation

3LB Consultancy

The conversations that change us rarely happen first. Presented by 3LB Consultancy, The Third Conversation is a podcast exploring the conversations that shape how we live, work, lead and connect. Through thoughtful discussions with inspiring guests, we'll explore leadership, creativity, education, identity, belonging, wellbeing, business and the moments that quietly change the direction of our lives. Because the conversations that matter most are rarely the first ones we have.

Episodes

  1. 3h ago ·  Video

    What Does Belonging Really Feel Like?

    We all want to belong. To feel accepted. Connected. Seen. To know there's somewhere we can be ourselves. But what does belonging actually feel like? And how often do we change parts of ourselves just to fit in? In this episode of The Third Conversation, Fern Hughes is joined by Aisha Thomas, Domini Choudhury and Michael Earle to explore belonging through the lenses of identity, inclusion, community and human connection. Together, they reflect on the expectations we navigate, the spaces where we feel accepted and the experiences that can leave us feeling like outsiders. From workplace cultures and social expectations to relationships, community and the changing ways we connect, this conversation asks whether being included is really the same as belonging. And perhaps most importantly, whether we can truly belong somewhere if we feel we have to change who we are to be there. In this conversation: The difference between fitting in and genuinely belongingWhy we sometimes change or hide parts of ourselves to feel acceptedHow identity, culture and lived experience shape our sense of belongingThe impact of workplace expectations and organisational cultureWhat happens when we don't feel connected to the communities around usThe role of relationships, community and shared experiencesWhether digital connection can replace a sense of belonging in real lifeWhat we can do to help others feel seen, valued and includedContinue the Conversation Belonging isn't necessarily about being part of a group. Sometimes it's about how we feel when we're there. So perhaps the question worth asking is: Where in your life do you feel you can be completely yourself? Or complete the sentence: “I know I belong when…” Continue the conversation, explore the episode and find the reflection questions and resources through the blog on the website.  The Third Conversation — The conversations that change us rarely happen first. Hosted by Fern Hughes Produced by 3LB Consultancy Support the show Created and hosted by: Fern Hughes, 3LB Consultancy Edited and produced by: Seb Alexander Music: Toby Green The Third Conversation is a podcast and community project from 3LB Consultancy. @thethirdconversation

  2. Oct 7 ·  Video

    What Makes a Conversation Feel Safe?

    We talk a lot about creating “safe spaces”. At work. In our communities. In meetings, classrooms and relationships. But what actually makes a conversation feel safe — and does safe necessarily mean comfortable? In this episode of The Third Conversation, Fern Hughes is joined by Kirsty Lewis, Dr Claire Stewart-Hall and Sanjit Chudha to explore what happens beneath the surface when we decide whether it feels safe enough to speak honestly. Together they explore purpose, listening, trust, power, identity, leadership and the conditions we create around difficult conversations. Kirsty asks whether people understand why they are in the room in the first place — drawing on the idea that “purpose is your bouncer” — while Claire challenges the language of safety itself by asking a deceptively important question: “Safe for whom?”  In this conversation: What makes us decide whether or not to speakWhy clarity and purpose matter before a conversation even beginsWhether “safe” and “comfortable” are actually the same thingHow power, identity and lived experience change how the same space can feelThe importance of listening and being able to bring your whole self into a conversationWhy difficult conversations don't necessarily need to be comfortable to be worthwhileWhat leaders and facilitators can do to create better conditions for honest conversationContinue the Conversation Rather than simply asking whether a space is safe, perhaps there is another question worth asking: Who feels safe here — and what are the conditions making that possible? Or complete the sentence: “I know a conversation is safe when…” Continue the conversation, explore the episode and find the reflection questions and resources through the blog on the website.  The Third Conversation — The conversations that change us rarely happen first. Hosted by Fern Hughes Produced by 3LB Consultancy Support the show Created and hosted by: Fern Hughes, 3LB Consultancy Edited and produced by: Seb Alexander Music: Toby Green The Third Conversation is a podcast and community project from 3LB Consultancy. @thethirdconversation

  3. Sep 30 ·  Video

    What Does Confidence Actually Look Like?

    When we picture confidence, we often imagine the loudest person in the room — the person on stage, the leader with the answer, or the creative who seems completely sure of what they're doing. But what if confidence is much less fixed than that? In the first conversation of Season One, Fern Hughes is joined by Gavin Strange, Seb Alexander and Angela De Silva to explore confidence from the inside out — how it grows, disappears, changes with context and is shaped by the people and environments around us. Together they explore creativity, work, imposter syndrome, anxiety, courage, mistakes, feedback, comparison and the confidence to try something before you know whether you'll be good at it. In this conversation: Why confidence isn't binaryConfidence vs comfort, courage and self-worthHow repetition can build confidenceImposter syndrome and wondering how you ended up in the roomThe importance of supportive people and environmentsMaking mistakes and “happy failing”Social media, comparison and perceived confidenceWhy confidence doesn't always have to look loudContinue the Conversation Where do you feel most confident — and what helps you feel that way? Or complete the sentence: “Confidence is…” Continue the conversation, explore the episode and find the reflection questions and resources: Continue the Conversation Episode Partner This episode of The Third Conversation is sponsored by MUTI Live — training for people and teams across the creative and live events industries, helping people build skills, confidence and sustainable careers. Find out more about MUTI Live  The Third Conversation — The conversations that change us rarely happen first. Hosted by Fern Hughes Produced by 3LB Consultancy Support the show Created and hosted by: Fern Hughes, 3LB Consultancy Edited and produced by: Seb Alexander Music: Toby Green The Third Conversation is a podcast and community project from 3LB Consultancy. @thethirdconversation

  4. Season 1 Trailer

    Welcome to The Third Conversation | Why These Conversations Matter

    Welcome to The Third Conversation. A podcast built around one simple idea: The conversations that change us rarely happen first. In this short introductory episode, host Fern Hughes shares where The Third Conversation came from, why she believes we need more space for meaningful human conversations, and what you can expect from Season One. This isn't an interview podcast, and nobody comes to the table to have all the answers. Each episode begins with one question and brings together different people, perspectives, professional experiences and lived experiences to see where the conversation takes us. Across Season One, we'll explore confidence, belonging, success, hope, parenting, money, identity, inclusion, grief, community, men's experiences, our changing bodies and, ultimately, what really matters. Some conversations are thoughtful. Some are funny. Some are uncomfortable. Some go somewhere completely unexpected. That's rather the point. The Third Conversation officially launches on 30 September 2026, with a new conversation released every Wednesday. Join The Conversation The Third Conversation is about more than listening. Join The Conversation Starter for new episodes, thoughtful reflections, recommended reading, watching and listening, upcoming events and opportunities to get involved. Join The Conversation Starter: https://thethirdconversation3lb.kit.com/4b06fd692f  Season One begins with: What Does Confidence Actually Look Like? With Seb Alexander, Gavin Strange and Angela Da Silva, available 30 September 2026. The Third Conversation is a podcast and community project from 3LB Consultancy, created and hosted by Fern Hughes. The conversations that change us rarely happen first. Support the show Created and hosted by: Fern Hughes, 3LB Consultancy Edited and produced by: Seb Alexander Music: Toby Green The Third Conversation is a podcast and community project from 3LB Consultancy. @thethirdconversation

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The conversations that change us rarely happen first. Presented by 3LB Consultancy, The Third Conversation is a podcast exploring the conversations that shape how we live, work, lead and connect. Through thoughtful discussions with inspiring guests, we'll explore leadership, creativity, education, identity, belonging, wellbeing, business and the moments that quietly change the direction of our lives. Because the conversations that matter most are rarely the first ones we have.