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Goatcast by Bookatrekking is where mountain stories come to life. Hosted by Sierd van der Bij, Goatcast features conversations with hikers, guides, hut wardens, mountain rescue teams, authors, photographers, and the people who make the world's greatest trekking destinations so special. From the Alps and the Dolomites to Nepal, Patagonia, and beyond, we explore the trails, traditions, and adventures that inspire us to keep walking.

Episodes

  1. 1d ago

    Maddy Williams on Cicerone, the Tour du Mont Blanc at 11 & Writing a Guidebook

    Maddy Williams did her first hut-to-hut trek at 11 and never forgot it. Today she is director of operations at Cicerone, the guidebook publisher she runs with her brother Joe. She also wrote the guide to the Tour of Monte Rosa, a book that took two summers after fresh snow in Zermatt turned her and her dad back from the glacier. Maddy and Sierd talk about growing up around guidebook authors like Gillian Price, how Cicerone works with about 150 authors and around 420 guidebooks, and how books are kept up to date after printing. They also get into why an expert author on the ground matters more as AI content spreads, overtourism in the Dolomites, and Cicerone's first navigation app. Maddy also shares her own trail stories: the Camino Francés in January 2022, horseback trips through Mongolia and Kyrgyzstan, and walks near her home in the Lake District. New guides are coming for the Jordan Trail and St Olaf's Way in Norway. Chapters 0:00 Meet Maddy Williams and Cicerone 0:40 Trekking the Tour du Mont Blanc at 11 3:52 Inside Cicerone's guidebook archive 5:46 150 authors, and walking with Gillian Price 7:07 How the TMB and hut booking have changed 8:25 Overtourism and sustainable trekking 13:45 Writing the Tour of Monte Rosa 15:13 Turned back on the glacier 18:33 What goes into a good guidebook 21:06 History and culture of Monte Rosa 24:35 The Alps vs Tajikistan 27:34 What "Cicerone" means, and 420 guidebooks 31:16 Why expert authors matter in the age of AI 33:20 Keeping guidebooks up to date 37:01 Where to buy, ebooks and the new app 41:56 AI as a tool for publishers 45:20 Camino Francés, Mongolia and Kyrgyzstan 50:31 Running Cicerone with her brother 54:37 New guides: the Jordan Trail and St Olaf's Way 56:18 Wrap-up

  2. Oct 21

    George Soan and Rach McInerney on Tour du Mont Blanc & Hiking as a Couple

    George Soan and Rach McInerney met in Sydney seven years ago. He’s from England, she’s from New Zealand, and both have called Australia home for years. This year George left his corporate job to go all in on hiking and has since walked the Great North Walk and the Larapinta solo. For Rach, the Tour du Mont Blanc was their second long trail together, after the Camino Portugués. In September they set off around Mont Blanc, hut to hut. Somewhere along the way one of them got injured. There was some hitchhiking, a bus, a fair amount of pain, and they still finished. We talk about walking a long trail as a couple, sharing dorms in the huts, what the TMB is like compared with hiking in Australia and tramping in New Zealand, and what comes next: George walking the Te Araroa solo, with Rach following in a campervan. Follow George: @georgesoan Follow Rach: @rach_mac_ George on YouTube: youtube.com/c/georgesoan 0:00 Intro: Hiking the Tour du Mont Blanc 1:21 Rach’s knee injury begins 4:10 The rescue plan — and meeting Carlos 7:35 Deciding whether to continue 10:24 Fear of heights and the ladder sections 17:34 Finishing the trail and George’s UTMB goal 20:28 The appeal of hut-to-hut hiking 22:08 Making friends on the trail 27:11 Leaving corporate life for content creation 30:14 Van life and George’s next big hike 33:36 Why mountain huts feel like luxury 35:55 The legendary blueberry pie and marmots 38:33 Favorite mountain huts on the route 42:34 Exploring Chamonix 45:51 Why they chose the Tour du Mont Blanc 48:36 Future hiking plans: Dolomites and beyond 49:45 What gear they’d bring next time 54:06 Should the Tour du Mont Blanc be your first long hike?

  3. Oct 14

    Evans Mwangi on Mount Kenya: From Porter to Guide to Company Owner

    vans Mwangi was 18 when he carried his first load up Mount Kenya in 1989. He worked his way up from porter to cook to guide, and today he runs his own company, Go To Mount Kenya. In this conversation with host Sierd van der Bij, he talks about a life spent on Africa’s second-highest mountain, what each of those jobs taught him, and why Chogoria is still his favourite way up. They also talk about the people who live around the mountain, what trekking means for local porters and guides, and how Mount Kenya compares to its better-known neighbour, Kilimanjaro. Two stories from the mountain’s history also come up. On the night of independence in December 1963, Kisoi Munyao planted the Kenyan flag on Batian. In 1943, three Italian prisoners of war escaped a camp near Nanyuki to climb the mountain. Read their story in No Picnic on Mount Kenya by Felice Benuzzi: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1121565.No_Picnic_on_Mount_Kenya Trek Mount Kenya with Bookatrekking: https://bookatrekking.com/en/trekking/kenya/ Chapters00:00 Evans’s 37 years on Mount Kenya 01:13 Starting out as a porter 06:11 From porter to mountain cook 09:34 East Africa and visitors’ expectations 11:23 Local names and the story of Kirinyaga 15:34 Why Chogoria is his favorite route 22:16 Mount Kenya compared with Kilimanjaro 24:19 Altitude and the role of the guide 32:15 The Chogoria-to-Sirimon trek 36:29 The summit push to Point Lenana 48:10 The Italian POW story 51:19 The shrinking glacier 54:07 Why the work is about people

  4. Oct 7

    Jan Bakker on Big Treks Beyond Europe: Nepal, Africa and the Pamirs

    Jan Bakker doesn’t exactly do ordinary hiking trips. He has trekked extensively in Nepal, spent years exploring East Africa, crossed remote parts of the Rwenzoris, climbed mountains including Kilimanjaro and Mount Kenya, and led expeditions into places where there isn’t always a trail to follow. He is also one of the driving forces behind the Pamir Trail, a 1,310-kilometre long-distance route across Tajikistan, and co-author of the Cicerone guidebook Trekking in Tajikistan. In this episode of Goatcast, Sierd talks to Jan about exploration, route finding, the Pamirs, Nepal and Africa, what it takes to create a trail from scratch, and why there are still plenty of places left where a line on a map can turn into a proper adventure. And naturally, we start with the most important question: what is the coolest thing Jan has ever done? Follow Jan and his projects on Instagram: @jb37north @pamirtrail @summitsofafrica Jan’s Cicerone guide, Trekking in Tajikistan: https://www.cicerone.co.uk/trekking-in-tajikistan 00:00 Introduction: Meet Jan Bakker 01:16 A honeymoon sea-kayaking adventure 03:01 Life in the Scottish wilderness 05:36 How the Pamir Trail began 13:30 Expanding into Afghanistan 17:15 Travel, culture, and genuine local connection 20:34 Scotland, family, and raising adventurous kids 22:43 Climbing Africa’s highest peaks 28:34 Trekking freedom: Tajikistan vs. Nepal and Africa 32:59 Packrafting across Uganda 35:54 A packrafting guidebook for Scotland 38:37 Solo adventure, fear, and mountain therapy 42:48 Trekking in Nepal and travelling respectfully 50:51 Preparing physically and mentally for the mountains 55:20 Cultural tips for East African trekking 59:22 What adventure means to Jan now 60:33 The best adventure partner

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Goatcast by Bookatrekking is where mountain stories come to life. Hosted by Sierd van der Bij, Goatcast features conversations with hikers, guides, hut wardens, mountain rescue teams, authors, photographers, and the people who make the world's greatest trekking destinations so special. From the Alps and the Dolomites to Nepal, Patagonia, and beyond, we explore the trails, traditions, and adventures that inspire us to keep walking.

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