Why this conversation mattered You can spend years becoming good at your work and still hesitate when an opportunity appears. You want one more project, one more credential, or a little more certainty before you put your hand up. Meanwhile, the work stays where it is, known mainly to the people who already know you. Pooja Manek brought a useful challenge to that tension: “How do I make ignoring me feel like a mistake?” The rest of her answer matters as much as the line. She talked about the effort of producing consistently strong work, learning through failure, and building the judgment to recognize an idea with potential. The standard has to exist beyond the introduction. Pooja is a Creative and Founding Member at Talented Agency, a Cannes Lion winner, and a member of the 2026 Cannes Lions Outdoor awarding jury. She also judged Writing for Advertising at D&AD in 2025. Her experience connects making work, evaluating it, and developing the people behind it. That makes her a valuable person to ask how promise becomes credible: she has to recognize quality in other people’s ideas while creating conditions for her own team to deliver it. Our conversation moved between individual ambition and the conditions that sustain it. Pooja described taste as something developed through making, failure, and repetition. She spoke about people who bring out the best in others, employee ownership, and client relationships strong enough for an idea to move forward through a sketch and a conversation. I heard a connection between those subjects. A reputation grows through the work people can see and the experience of working with the person behind it. Visibility needs something substantial to carry. Substance also needs opportunities to travel. If you work inside a company, the question becomes concrete. What would help someone trust you with the next brief, account, promotion, or difficult decision? This conversation offers several places to look: the quality of your observations, what you do with feedback, the initiative you take, and the people whose work improves around you. -Emily THE LEAD by Emily K Thomas is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Five ideas I’m taking from this conversation These are my interpretations and practical applications of the interview. 1. Let your interests become evidence of judgment. When Pooja described choosing talent, she wanted to know what people cared about outside work. What could they talk about with real energy and specificity? I mentioned organizing, flipping furniture, and interior design. She immediately connected those interests to a furniture account. Someone who notices the difference between cobalt and periwinkle might bring relevant attention to a brief that another person would miss. That exchange made her hiring philosophy tangible. An interest becomes useful when you can show what it helps you notice. She also pointed to the detail in The Lead’s branding, including the type and words, as something she could recognize before meeting me. My takeaway is to audit the work someone encounters first. Do its details demonstrate the care you say you bring? In your next interview or internal presentation, go one step beyond naming a passion. Explain an observation it has given you, the choice it changed, and where that understanding could help the business. Give the other person something to assess. 2. Build taste through practice you can learn from. Pooja talked about the gap between recognizing work you admire and being able to make work at that standard yourself. She referenced Ira Glass’s discussion of that gap and returned to the need to do the work. She also acknowledged that talking about this after earning recognition comes with privilege. There was a day zero. Failure was part of developing the resilience and instinct she now relies on. My application is to make repetition deliberate. Choose one part of your craft: writing a clearer brief, finding a stronger insight, or making a recommendation easier to understand. Compare what you made with a specific example you admire. Ask for feedback on the difference. Then make another attempt. “More” becomes useful when you can name what improved. When I asked for a logical test for a strong outdoor idea, Pooja could not offer a formula. She described a physical response, the feeling of recognizing potential. I would keep that honesty alongside the practice: experienced judgment can arrive before a tidy explanation. Then ask what the response is noticing and whether it holds for the intended audience. Pooja’s four talent criteria fit together here: obsession, high agency, her forceful refusal to accept mediocrity, and openness to feedback. Standards need that fourth part. Otherwise, devotion to the work can become devotion to defending your first version. 3. Give opportunity a place in your calendar. Pooja described “luck surface area,” an idea she encountered through Sahil Bloom. Applying, meeting people, and putting work into the world create more opportunities for an unexpected connection to happen. Her own account includes applying for See It Be It and being willing to try again if she had not been selected. The possibility of rejection was part of the decision. I shared my own practice: half an hour on Mondays devoted to shooting my shot. Reaching out can still feel uncomfortable. Giving it time in the calendar means I act before I feel completely ready. You can make this useful without turning your week into constant self-promotion. Choose one relevant person, program, or internal opportunity. Decide why you are a fit. Share one piece of work or observation that makes the connection clear, then make a specific request. Track what you attempted and learned. You can control those actions even when you cannot control the response. 4. Trust is visible in what people make possible for others. When I asked what turns attention into trust, Pooja spoke about secure people and David Brooks’s distinction between illuminators and diminishers in How to Know a Person. She values people who recognize what others can contribute and want to bring it forward. She connected that to developing internal talent and making Talented’s standards explicit through its handbook. We compared that with our own GAL Standard. For a manager, this is a practical question: does someone leave a conversation with you better able to contribute? That can mean a clearer brief, useful feedback, accurate credit, or responsibility matched with support. It can also mean explaining why an idea needs more work. Helping someone improve requires honesty as well as encouragement. Pooja’s description of pay and employee ownership adds another dimension. A workplace’s stated belief in people becomes more credible when its operating decisions give them security and a stake in what they help build. These were her accounts of Talented’s approach, and they deserve attention alongside the creative advice. 5. Make something the audience can use. Pooja’s audience test was one of my favorite parts of the conversation: why will someone care? Her example went beyond attracting attention. A piece of work might help a woman begin a conversation about marriage or equality. Sharing it with a friend or partner could make something difficult easier to express. That is a useful standard for anyone working in communications. The audience gains language, understanding, or a way to act. Before approving your next post, campaign, or presentation, complete this sentence: “After seeing this, someone can…” Then be specific. Explain a decision to a colleague. Raise an issue with a partner. Recognize a problem. Compare two options. Take the next step. If the sentence only describes what they will know about your organization, keep working on what it gives them. Signals from the conversation Opportunity Signal: Show initiative with evidence. Pooja described high agency as a mindset that can exist at any level. My application is to bring a considered next step: the problem you noticed, what you explored, and the help or decision you need. Initiative still includes knowing when to ask for expertise or approval. Trust Signal: Shared understanding changes the amount of explanation required. Pooja described work approved over WhatsApp after years of client relationships. A sketch, a concept note, and a call could be enough. The valuable detail is the history behind the short message. People already understood one another’s judgment. For a corporate team, shorter communication works when the decision, context, responsibilities, and risks are understood. Earn that shared understanding before assuming everyone needs fewer details. Momentum Signal: Put feedback into the next version. Pooja kept returning to being open to feedback. The practical signal is what changes afterward. Ask for one specific improvement, apply it, and show the difference. That gives a colleague or client evidence that working with you improves the outcome. Emily’s (MY) favorite moment The furniture exchange stayed with me because Pooja demonstrated her point while we were talking. I named an interest, and she could already see where that attention might become useful on a client brief. It reminded me to be more precise when introducing people. A broad compliment gives someone little to work with. An observation about how a person sees, thinks, or solves a problem can help someone else recognize where they belong. That is a valuable act of connection. Because you’re still here… Here’s The deeper record - to help you apply this to your life/ business Here is a simple exercise I would take from this conversation. Before your next opportunity, write four short answers: What do I notice? Name one specific observation your experience or interests help you make. What have I made? Choose a piece of work that demon