The Endeavors AI Podcast

Collin McKee

The Endeavors AI Podcast explores how law firms and professional services businesses are navigating the AI revolution — what's working, what's not, and where the real opportunities are. Host Collin McKee, founder of Endeavors AI, sits down with attorneys, entrepreneurs, and operators to cut through the hype and get practical about what AI actually looks like in day-to-day practice.

  1. Oct 23

    Your Client's ChatGPT Chats Aren't Privileged: A Former Federal Enforcer Explains

    Anything your client types into ChatGPT is not privileged, and it can be discoverable in litigation. Dennis Sapien-Pangindian, Founding Attorney of DSP Advocates, P.C. in New York, started his career enforcing federal healthcare fraud laws at the HHS Office of Inspector General, then worked at Paul Hastings and as Senior Counsel at Epstein Becker Green before opening his own firm in 2025. Host Collin McKee and Dennis talk about why he moved from the billable hour to flat fees, how AI-assisted research in Clio Work cut a full day of legal research to an hour or two, why he treats AI like a summer associate he doesn't fully trust yet, and the AI phone agent and lead-scraping tools he tried and dropped. Dennis also explains why clients' AI chats aren't protected, how to talk with clients who fact-check their lawyer with ChatGPT, and the one AI step every small-firm lawyer should take this week. Chapters: 00:00 Intro: Dennis Sapien-Pangindian, DSP Advocates 01:00 Why start in government at HHS-OIG 02:48 The False Claims Act and healthcare fraud 04:30 Switching sides: from enforcer to defense counsel 06:03 Why he left Big Law to start a firm of one 07:45 Billable hour vs. flat fees 10:47 How AI makes flat fees profitable (Clio Work) 13:46 AI tools that failed: AI receptionist and lead scraping 16:59 White glove, not a metal hand 19:00 Your client's ChatGPT chats aren't privileged 21:22 When clients fact-check their lawyer with ChatGPT 23:38 Do this week: run an AI audit 24:19 Where AI in legal practice goes in the next two years 25:43 Where to find Dennis and DSP Advocates Dennis Sapien-Pangindian / DSP Advocates: https://www.dspadvocates.com Dennis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dsapienpangindian/ Endeavors AI: https://www.endeavorsai.com Educational only, not legal advice.

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The Endeavors AI Podcast explores how law firms and professional services businesses are navigating the AI revolution — what's working, what's not, and where the real opportunities are. Host Collin McKee, founder of Endeavors AI, sits down with attorneys, entrepreneurs, and operators to cut through the hype and get practical about what AI actually looks like in day-to-day practice.