What does a data and AI engineer actually do, where should you start if you're coming from zero, and is now the right time to pivot into AI? In this episode of The Homa Pod, Winner, a Principal Data & AI Engineer at Microsoft, joins me to break down data and AI engineering: what his day looks like, how a business idea becomes a working prototype, the difference between models and agents, and whether you should go into data, AI, or both. We also talk about the roadmap from scratch, the platforms companies hire for, how long it takes, who can switch fastest, what gives you the edge, and where he thinks AI is heading. If you're a student, a software engineer thinking about AI, a data professional, or someone curious about how AI work happens inside big tech, this conversation gives you a clear, honest picture. IN THIS EPISODE:- A day as a data & AI engineer, from business vision to prototype- What a data platform is- Models vs agents: what AI engineers actually build- Data engineer, AI engineer, or both- Data scientist vs data engineer- The AI engineering roadmap: Python, machine learning, the frameworks (LangChain, LangGraph, Semantic Kernel, AutoGen), prompt engineering- The data engineering roadmap: Python, Excel, SQL, databases and data platforms- Why the big platforms are where the jobs are, and the pay- How long it takes to get in- Who can pivot into AI fastest- Visibility, positioning and your portfolio- Winner's prediction: reinforcement learning JOIN THE CONVERSATIONAre you thinking about a career in data or AI? What's holding you back, or what do you want to know? Tell us in the comments. Subscribe to The Homa Pod for more conversations about technology, careers, personal journeys, and the lessons people learn along the way. Chapters0:00 Coming up in this episode1:54 Welcome to The Homa Pod3:14 The job, day to day8:43 Data, AI, or both?14:29 From zero to AI engineer19:27 Where the jobs and the money are22:18 What gives you the edge25:34 What's next for AI Watch episode 1, "Intern to Principal Engineer at Microsoft in 5 Years": https://youtu.be/TiHMPpKEff8Watch episode 2, "All Things Tech Sales": https://youtu.be/OcgZsg4zHxo Watch the full video on YouTube: @TassyOmahMusic: Late Truth by Audio Hertz (YouTube Audio Library)Homapod by Homalabs · @TassyOmah