Search Beef

Joss Froggatt

Same search. Different agenda. Search Beef is a video debate podcast for search marketers who dare to disagree. Each episode, two SEM practitioners take opposite sides of one contentious question, like brand bidding, Performance Max, broad match, rankings and AI search, and argue it out properly. It's not win/lose. It's the range of perspectives that polite panels and safe LinkedIn posts leave out, so you leave having heard both perspectives on the given topic. Hosted by Joss Froggatt, who has years of award-winning PPC experience and dislikes performative agreement.

Episodes

  1. 3d ago

    SEO vs PPC: Where Would You Spend £100k? | Hannah Bryce vs Maddie Lightening

    If you had £100k to spend on search today, is SEO the smarter long-term bet over PPC? SEO consultant Hannah Bryce says yes. Maddie Lightening, Head of Paid Media at Hallam, says no. Hannah's case: "PPC rents traffic while SEO builds it." SEO is the mortgage, building equity that keeps paying after the budget runs out. Maddie's case: speed to revenue, precise targeting and the ability to pivot overnight beat waiting for rankings, and PPC is the best research tool SEO has. Along the way: is SEO ever really free, what AI Overviews and core updates mean for your SEO investment, PMax as "a toddler loose with your money", whether "fail fast" works in B2B, and whether either of them changed their mind. Search Beef is a video debate podcast for search marketers who disagree. Two practitioners, one question, no winner. New episode every Wednesday, hosted by Joss Froggatt. 00:00 Cold open 00:19 Welcome to Search Beef 01:40 £100k: SEO or PPC? Meet the guests 04:59 Hannah's case: SEO is a mortgage 07:12 Maddie's case: speed, precision, pivots 09:53 Mortgage vs rent: is SEO really free? 13:25 What if AI Overviews wipe you out? 18:43 Is paid the faster way into AI answers? 21:40 Can PPC data build long-term value? 24:30 When a business goes all-in on paid 27:58 How fast can SEO pivot? 28:57 PMax: a toddler with your money 32:47 Does fail fast work in B2B? 35:34 Why this debate is different now 38:14 The verdict 40:05 Where to find Hannah and Maddie THE GUESTSHannah Bryce, SEO Consultant (16 years in SEO, e-commerce specialist)LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-bryce-99848144/ · Website: https://hannahbryce.com/Maddie Lightening, Head of Paid Media at Hallam (10 years in paid media)LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maddie-lightening/ · Hallam: https://hallam.agency/ WATCH AND FOLLOW YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMUaEHDA7Ml1TTTSyZ-ANmgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/search-beef/Website: https://searchbeef.com/ Next week: Is broad match actually good now?

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Same search. Different agenda. Search Beef is a video debate podcast for search marketers who dare to disagree. Each episode, two SEM practitioners take opposite sides of one contentious question, like brand bidding, Performance Max, broad match, rankings and AI search, and argue it out properly. It's not win/lose. It's the range of perspectives that polite panels and safe LinkedIn posts leave out, so you leave having heard both perspectives on the given topic. Hosted by Joss Froggatt, who has years of award-winning PPC experience and dislikes performative agreement.