There was no garage, no single founder, and definitely no master plan. BAE Systems is what survived when dozens of British companies went through a century of wars, cancellations, nationalisation, privatisation and near-bankruptcy. Hawker, Vickers, Avro, de Havilland, English Electric, Marconi and Royal Ordnance were all absorbed. Almost all of their names have disappeared. One company remains. In 2025, BAE Systems generated £30.7bn in sales and £3.3bn in underlying EBIT. It ended the year with an £83.6bn order backlog and over 111,000 employees. It builds nuclear submarines, warships, combat aircraft, armoured vehicles, missiles, radar and electronic warfare systems. Its largest market isn't the UK. It's the United States. In our longest episode yet, Colin Brown and Martti Wallin tell the story in five acts: - How the Battle of Britain was won by an industrial system, not just "the few" - Freddie Page, the chauffeur's son who built the Canberra and the Lightning at Warton - The cancelled TSR-2, and why Britain had to learn to build aircraft with Germany, Italy and France- Nationalisation in 1977, privatisation in 1981, and the record £1.2bn loss that nearly ended it all - The Marconi deal that created BAE Systems, and why it chose America over a European merger - Selective sovereignty: what a nation must own, and what it can share with allies - What Europe should do next with its defence industry Chapters 00:00 Intro: what does "BAE Systems" actually mean? 09:44 Act 1: Britain at its zenith, Sopwith, Hawker and the Battle of Britain 01:02:23 Act 2: Peace, Warton and the Canberra, the Lightning and the TSR-2 01:52:56 Act 3: Britain learns to share: Jaguar, Tornado and British Aerospace 02:45:34 Act 4: Saudi Arabia, the end of the Cold War, near-collapse and the Marconi deal 03:25:09 Act 5: BAE Systems is born: Astute, America and selective sovereignty 04:06:22 Analysis: what France, Germany, Italy and Sweden did differently 04:29:34 Quintessence 04:33:20 Thank you and next episode: Red Bull Category Leaders tells the stories of European companies that are best in the world in their category. Brought to you by SparkMind Capital. BAE Systems: https://www.baesystems.com/en Next month: Red Bull. A Thai energy drink, an Austrian toothpaste salesman, and a category that didn't exist until they created it. #BAESystems #EuropeanIndustry #CategoryLeaders #Podcast