The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more. For insightful posts on leadership, change and personal growth, episode transcripts and podcast show notes, go to https://careynieuwhof.com/.

  1. 9h ago

    "I Don't Want to Be That Guy": Chuck DeGroat on Shame, Burnout, the Limits of Spiritual Disciplines and the Nervous System

    Chuck DeGroat has spent years helping pastors after the crisis hits. In this conversation, he explains why shame does more damage than fear, what your nervous system is trying to tell you before you burn out or hit a crisis in ministry, and why spiritual disciplines alone won't save you. If you're a young leader or starting to see the cracks in ministry, listen closely. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH: A BARNA INTENSIVE On November 10th, I'm teaming up with Barna for a three-hour leadership intensive called AI and the Future Church, where you'll get never-before-seen research on how pastors and congregations are actually using AI, and leave with a one-page plan including the language for the AI policy your church needed yesterday.  Register at barna.com/aiandthefuturechurch GLOBAL CHRISTIAN RELIEF Global Christian Relief supports persecuted believers in places like Nigeria, Pakistan, Syria, and Iran, bringing Scripture where it's restricted and providing emergency relief when crisis hits. When you stand with the global church, you're not supporting a cause. You're standing with family. Check them out at gcrelief.org GLOO Gloo is the technology platform for the faith and flourishing ecosystem. They handle your tech and help you connect with the people you're trying to reach, so you can stay focused on the mission instead of burning nights holding your systems together. If you're tired of spinning plates, go to gloo.com/grow

    "I Don't Want to Be That Guy": Chuck DeGroat on Shame, Burnout, the Limits of Spiritual Disciplines and the Nervous System

  2. Oct 20

    The Overcorrection Against Church Growth: Andrew Hopper on Why We Shouldn't Celebrate Church Decline

    Andrew Hopper saw his church plant grow to 1000 in two years, and almost nobody understood how hard that actually was. Especially when you planted at 28 years-old. In this conversation, he tackles church growth critics, and opens up about the tightrope of leading crazy growth in public. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH: A BARNA INTENSIVE On November 10th, I'm teaming up with Barna for a three-hour leadership intensive called AI and the Future Church, where you'll get never-before-seen research on how pastors and congregations are actually using AI, and leave with a one-page plan including the language for the AI policy your church needed yesterday.  Register at barna.com/aiandthefuturechurch COMPASSION Compassion International has been a trusted partner of mine for years. They're reaching the most vulnerable children with the gospel and working with churches of all sizes to do it. They equip churches with free family resources, church-wide experiences, and global partnerships with local churches serving children in poverty.  Find out more and watch my conversation with Compassion's CEO Jimmy Mellado at compassion.com/carey.

    The Overcorrection Against Church Growth: Andrew Hopper on Why We Shouldn't Celebrate Church Decline

  3. Oct 15

    The Strengths, Weaknesses and Moral Failures of the Mega-Church Movement: Jimmy Mellado on Healthy Growth, Scale, and Lessons from an Olympian

    Jimmy Mellado unpacks what the church growth movement got right and wrong from the 90s through 2010s, why concentrated power without governance breaks leaders, the ingredients that go into moral failure, and what scale costs a pastor. Plus, he shares lessons from his time as an Olympian. This one's for leaders who've mistaken growth for health. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH AI and the Future Church has been out for a few weeks, and the most common question I'm getting is: what do I actually do about it?  That's why we built an AI Hub as a companion to the book — it helps you see where your church stands, what to address first, and how to lead your team through the shifts ahead.  Get your copy wherever books are sold, and access the AI Hub at aifuture.church GLOO If you're tired of wrestling with technology and guessing whether your marketing is actually working, Gloo handles both. They bring real engineering talent and smarter reach strategy so you can stay focused on the mission while they handle what's behind the scenes. Go to gloo.com/grow to learn more. THE CHOSEN The new season of The Chosen launches exclusively on Prime Video November 15, and from now through November 14, churches can show the first episode for free. Visit comeandsee.net/church to sign up, and mark your calendar for The Chosen Crucifixion, opening exclusively in theaters March 12, 2027.

    The Strengths, Weaknesses and Moral Failures of the Mega-Church Movement: Jimmy Mellado on Healthy Growth, Scale, and Lessons from an Olympian

  4. Oct 13

    How to Trust God When You Don't Understand: John Ortberg, Ann Voskamp, and Toni Nieuwhof on Wanting to Give Up and What They Would Believe If They Weren't Christians

    John Ortberg, Ann Voskamp, and Toni Nieuwhof get personal about the questions faith doesn't answer easily: what they'd believe if they weren't Christians, why suffering isolates us, wanting to quit, and what Dallas Willard told John about painful seasons. Plus, all proceeds from HonestToGodBook.com go to empowering youth education in developing nations through Convoy of Hope and Compassion. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes FUND THE FUTURE MASTERCLASS Most churches are stuck having transactional conversations about money when what actually holds up is a culture of generosity, and that culture is much easier to build now, before you're in a crisis. Go to careynieuwhof.com/fundthefuture to access the Fund the Future Masterclass with Craig Groeschel, Chris Hodges, and more. BELAY Your energy should go toward what you were actually called to do: leading. Text CAREY to 55123 and get a free resource called The Giving Shift. THE EXCHANGE WITH ED STETZER Each week on The Exchange, Ed Stetzer brings together theologians, pastors, and researchers for thoughtful, timely dialogue about where the church is headed and how leaders can respond faithfully. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

    How to Trust God When You Don't Understand: John Ortberg, Ann Voskamp, and Toni Nieuwhof on Wanting to Give Up and What They Would Believe If They Weren't Christians

  5. Oct 6

    Everything You Know About Multisite Church is Wrong! What the Largest Multisite Study Ever Done Actually Found with Warren Bird and Sean Morgan

    Warren Bird and Sean Morgan bust the "8,000 multisite churches" myth with real numbers from the largest multisite study ever done (there are only 1800). Multisite churches are just 0.5% of all churches, yet they reach 10% of churchgoers, and that share is growing. Tune in for an hour of the most detailed data on multisite churches ever done, and what you can learn in the process. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH AI and the Future Church has been out for a few weeks, and the most common question I'm getting is: what do I actually do about it?  That's why we built an AI Hub as a companion to the book — it helps you see where your church stands, what to address first, and how to lead your team through the shifts ahead.  Get your copy wherever books are sold, and access the AI Hub at aifuture.church GLOO Join Gloo and Prison Fellowship for a free three-part webinar series with research-backed ways to strengthen discipleship and prepare your church for meaningful fall outreach. Watch it on-demand at gloo.com/angeltree. SUBSPLASH 61% of church staff are already using AI tools, but most tools weren't built for ministry. Subsplash built AI tools specifically for pastors — analyze giving trends, streamline your media process, and set up automated workflows that keep people from falling through the cracks. Head to subsplash.com/carey and save $500 when you sign up.

    Everything You Know About Multisite Church is Wrong! What the Largest Multisite Study Ever Done Actually Found with Warren Bird and Sean Morgan

  6. Sep 29

    The Problem with Going Viral: Seth Godin on the Truth About Influencers, Status and Affiliation and Why You Should Avoid The Race to the Bottom in AI

    Seth Godin returns to explore the problem with going viral, the truth about influencers, why you don't want to play the game of gaining more and more influence online, how status and affiliation drive everything, and why you should avoid the race to the bottom in AI. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH I wrote AI and the Future Church to give church leaders a practical playbook for what's ahead. It's built around three shifts every church leader needs to make, and it's grounded in what's actually happening right now. Learn more at careynieuwhof.com/ai  THE CHOSEN Season 6 of The Chosen begins the powerful journey to the cross. Your church can host a free Early Access screening of the first episode now through November 14. Learn more at ComeAndSee.net/church. GLOO Gloo connects churches with donors, audiences, and partners through trusted channels, so the people who need you can actually find you. Learn more at gloo.com/grow. COMPASSION As a church leader, you're called to help your congregation live out both the Great Commandment and the Great Commission. Compassion International is a powerful partner for that mission.  Visit compassion.com/carey and fill out the Church Partnership section to connect with their team.

    The Problem with Going Viral: Seth Godin on the Truth About Influencers, Status and Affiliation and Why You Should Avoid The Race to the Bottom in AI

  7. Sep 24

    Building Your Personal Board of Directors: Annie F. Downs on AI Friendship vs. Real Friends and Why Christians Need to Stay in the Secular World

    Annie F. Downs joins the show to talk about why every leader needs a personal board of directors and who actually belongs there. Carey and Annie discuss why AI friendship can never replace the real thing and why Christians need to stay in the secular world instead of retreating from it. Plus, we get a massive update on her recent marriage and what that does to her singles ministry. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH I wrote AI and the Future Church to give church leaders a practical playbook for what's ahead. It's built around three shifts every church leader needs to make, and it's grounded in what's actually happening right now. Learn more at careynieuwhof.com/ai  THE CHOSEN Season 6 of The Chosen begins the powerful journey to the cross. Your church can host a free Early Access screening of the first episode now through November 14. Learn more at ComeAndSee.net/church. GLOBAL CHRISTIAN RELIEF Global Christian Relief supports persecuted Christians in places like Nigeria, Pakistan, Syria, India, and Iran—bringing Scripture where it's restricted, emergency relief when crisis hits, and long-term support for the Church. When you give to the global church, you're not supporting a cause, you're standing with family. Check them out at gcrelief.org.

    Building Your Personal Board of Directors: Annie F. Downs on AI Friendship vs. Real Friends and Why Christians Need to Stay in the Secular World

  8. Sep 22

    Is AI Worse for Mental Health Than Social Media? Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard Interview Carey Nieuwhof

    We missed what social media would do to human flourishing. We can't afford to miss what AI is about to do, especially to the next generation. Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard sat down with Carey Nieuwhof on AI, mental health, employment, and the isolation it's accelerating, and why the church might be the one place AI can't replace. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life.  Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH I wrote AI and the Future Church to give church leaders a practical playbook for what's ahead. It's built around three shifts every church leader needs to make, and it's grounded in what's actually happening right now. Learn more at careynieuwhof.com/ai  THE CHOSEN Season 6 of The Chosen begins the powerful journey to the cross. Your church can host a free Early Access screening of the first episode now through November 14. Learn more at ComeAndSee.net/church. GOMPASSION For almost 75 years, Compassion International has partnered with churches around the world to empower the most vulnerable children to become thriving followers of Jesus Christ. Check out Compassion.com/carey and head to the Compassion Sunday section—a great first step for your church to get involved and raise up children to follow Christ and change their families and communities.

    Is AI Worse for Mental Health Than Social Media? Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard Interview Carey Nieuwhof
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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more. For insightful posts on leadership, change and personal growth, episode transcripts and podcast show notes, go to https://careynieuwhof.com/.

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