PSM: Professional Services Marketing

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Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Frank Lippert and Deirdre Gilmore. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one – your firm needs to stand out from the pack, so a marketing strategy can no longer be an afterthought.

  1. 18H AGO

    Tell Me More: Empathy, Headlines, and the Stories Firms Choose

    When the world feels heavy, polished stories stop working. The ones that land are the honest ones — the ones that start with trouble.   In this episode of The PSM Show, hosts Damion Morris and Deirdre Booth sit down with writer and strategist Joel Hoekstra for a "pull up a chair" conversation about why the best AEC stories don't begin with brilliance or technical expertise — they begin with friction, uncertainty, and what wasn't working. Joel shares how he helps marketers draw human-centered narratives out of highly technical subject matter experts, why empathy consistently beats perfection, and how the stories a firm tells (or avoids) reveal its values, culture, and client experience.   You'll hear practical ways to get past "it's just what we do," including a simple interviewing move that unlocks better detail, better clarity, and better trust: "Tell me more." Joel also breaks down why headlines matter more than most firms think, how scannable structure (subheads, bullets, formatting) increases impact, and how to build reusable story "toolkits" that support proposals without relying on boilerplate.   Plus, Joel introduces his START Story Formula — a clear framework marketers can use to shape case studies, Q&A prep, and project profiles: Situation → Trouble → Action → Result → Transformation Because the ribbon-cutting is a result — but what changes six months later is the transformation people actually remember.   Guest bio: Joel Hoekstra Joel is a Minnesota-based content-marketing strategist and writer who helps design firms tell client-centric stories that win work. He has held marketing-communications roles at several architecture firms in Minneapolis and has written extensively about design and architecture for such publications as Metropolis, This Old House, RIBA Journal, ARCHITECT, BUILDER, and American Craft. Learn more about Joel and sign up for his monthly newsletter at joelhoekstra.net. Follow him on Linked in at https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelchoekstra/

    1 hr

  2. JAN 30

    RERUN: Where Strategy Meets Action feat. James Hatch

    What does strategy really look like inside a construction firm that wants to grow on purpose, not by accident? In this episode of the PSM Show, host Damion Morris talks with James Hatch, Chief Strategy Officer at Kovac Building Enclosures, one of the top glazing contractors in the country. James shares how his path through architecture, estimating, finance, and business development shaped the way he leads strategy today – and why he sees the CSO as the "agent of change" inside the firm. They dig into what it takes to keep the "periscope above the water," choose the right pursuits, and build a culture that supports change instead of resisting it. Along the way, James talks candidly about Kovac's shift from private equity to employee ownership, why authenticity matters more than polish, and what emerging leaders should practice now if they are drawn to the work of strategy.

    1h 14m

  3. JAN 9

    PSM Unscripted: Starting the Year with Perspective

    In this unscripted conversation, Deirdre Booth and Damion Morris step away from the usual format and start the year with an honest check-in. They talk candidly about growth, ambition, balance, connection, leadership, and what changes when career wins stop being the only measure of success.   This episode sets the tone for the season ahead with real reflection, lived experience, and the kind of perspective that comes from years in the industry and life beyond the job title.

    1h 3m

  4. 12/12/2025

    Why Joy Is a Leadership Strategy, Not a Soft Skill

    In an industry built on deadlines, pursuits, and constant pressure, resilience is often framed as grit and endurance. But what if that mindset is actually driving burnout? In this episode of The PSM Show, Deirdre Booth sits down with Nicole Van Valen, founder of Keen Insights and author of The Joyful Leader, to reframe how AEC firms think about resilience, leadership, and performance. Drawing from her background as a licensed marriage and family therapist and corporate leader, Nicole explains why joy is not a perk or personality trait, but a practical tool that supports focus, steadiness, and long-term sustainability. The conversation explores how AEC marketers and business development professionals can regulate stress in high-pressure environments, why middle managers play a critical role in shaping culture, and how tools like the Ready, Set, Go model and the Joy Menu help teams reset without stepping away from their responsibilities. This episode offers grounded, actionable insights for leaders who want to protect their people, strengthen trust, and build teams that can perform consistently over the long game. Nicole Van Valen: Nicole Van Valen, M.S., L.M.F.T., SHRM-SCP is an internationally recognized speaker, consultant, and published author of The Joyful Leader®. With over 25 years of experience spanning healthcare, behavioral health, and entertainment, she equips executives and organizations to manage stress, build resilient cultures, and lead with empathy, clarity, and impact.  Nicole is the Founder and CEO of Keane Insights®, where she Nicole integrates neuroscience, mental health expertise, and leadership development to transform workplaces into high-performing, engaging environments. Nicole is also a recurring mental health expert for CBS 4 News Miami and has been featured in SUCCESS Magazine for her thought leadership on resilience and workplace performance.  A former Miami Dolphins Cheerleader and Miami HEAT Dancer, Nicole brings dynamic energy and authenticity to every stage—championing transformation through joy and proving that resilience isn't just a mindset; it's a strategic advantage.

    44 min

  5. 11/28/2025

    Where Strategy Meets Action

    What does strategy really look like inside a construction firm that wants to grow on purpose, not by accident? In this episode of the PSM Show, host Damion Morris talks with James Hatch, Chief Strategy Officer at Kovac Building Enclosures, one of the top glazing contractors in the country. James shares how his path through architecture, estimating, finance, and business development shaped the way he leads strategy today – and why he sees the CSO as the "agent of change" inside the firm. They dig into what it takes to keep the "periscope above the water," choose the right pursuits, and build a culture that supports change instead of resisting it. Along the way, James talks candidly about Kovac's shift from private equity to employee ownership, why authenticity matters more than polish, and what emerging leaders should practice now if they are drawn to the work of strategy.

    1h 14m

  6. 11/07/2025

    Generalist to Strategist: The Evolving Role of AEC Marketers

    Hosts Deirdre Booth and Damion Morris dig into why AEC marketing roles have stretched across design, writing, coordination, and strategy, and why that model is shifting. They unpack findings referenced from SMPS research, lessons from recent pursuits, and how private equity, data, AI, and client experience are changing expectations. Hear practical ways teams can organize around five core functions, build true strategic capacity, and connect marketing to revenue and reputation.

    1h 1m

  7. 10/24/2025

    Crossover! What AEC Marketers Can Learn From Taylor Swift feat. Keelin Cox

    Whether you're a Swiftie or not, Taylor Swift's influence on global spending and the marketing strategies behind her success are impossible to ignore.  In this episode, Deirdre Booth and I explore how AEC firms can draw inspiration from Taylor Swift's innovative marketing tactics to create their own opportunities for growth.

    38 min

  8. 10/10/2025

    Talent and Technology in AEC Marketing

    AEC marketing and business development are changing fast. In this episode, Deirdre Booth talks with Scott Butcher of Stambaugh Ness about what is reshaping the work today and what leaders need next. They cover the talent crunch, the "missing middle," and why environmental scanning belongs in every plan. They discuss practical uses of AI, how early adopters are already productizing tools, and what happens when firms delay. Scott makes the case for true marketing leadership at the table, not just a new title, and offers a six month playbook that focuses on three use cases for AI, stronger BD and marketing alignment, and a habit of testing and learning. The conversation closes with clear risks of waiting, including loss of relevance and recruiting challenges, and a reminder that agility wins when conditions shift.

    51 min
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Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Frank Lippert and Deirdre Gilmore. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one – your firm needs to stand out from the pack, so a marketing strategy can no longer be an afterthought.

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