Profits on Purpose

Nate Littlewood

Welcome to the Profits on Purpose Podcast! New episodes weekly.

  1. 1D AGO

    SE01E31 - What Investors Actually Want to See | Dawnbreaker Oats | Scott Turner and Nick Lagonia

    After raising $300K and spending two years building a CPG brand called Misery & Mayhem, Scott Turner and Nick Lagonia made a bold decision: scrap everything and rebrand in seven weeks on a $2,500 budget. In this raw conversation, the Dawnbreaker Oats co-founders share expensive lessons about influencer marketing, the honest feedback that changed their company, and what it's really like to run a business for 2.5 years withoutpaying yourself. We dive into the shift in fundraising expectations (the "golden age of CPG" is over), the unit economics of their subscription oatmeal business, and why sometimes the thing you think is your brand strength is actually holding you back. This is an unusually honest look at the unglamorous reality of building a CPG brand—from patient capital allocation to user testing that revealed a 10% to 65% preference shift. Key Topics:Why their original brand name (Misery & Mayhem) became a distraction instead of an advantageThe 7-week, $2,500 rebrand process that tested 50+ conceptsUser testing results: from 10% to 65% brand preferenceReal talk on not paying yourself for 2.5 years while raising young familiesWhat investors actually want to see now vs. the "golden age of CPG"D2C unit economics: $7 trials, $25-30 CAC, 50%+ retention on subscriptionsThe discipline of proving small bets before scaling Why they chose e-commerce over retail (and the cash flow reasons behind it) Guest Bios:Scott Turner and Nick Lagonia are the co-founders of Dawnbreaker Oats, a high-protein instant oatmeal brand.They met in 2016 while working at Peloton and launched their first brand in February 2024. After realizing theiroriginal positioning wasn't resonating with customers, they completed a full rebrand in seven weeks,relaunching as Dawnbreaker Oats in September 2024. They're currently in the middle of raising their secondround of funding while building an e-commerce-first CPG business. I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.

    55 min
  2. FEB 4

    SE01E30 - Why everything lives in the founder's head - and how to fix it | AE&Co | Aveline Elfar

    Most founders think their bottleneck is marketing or sales. It's not. It's operations. Aveline Elfar spent six years managing franchise operations before discovering that online businesses were drowning in even more operational chaos. Now, as a fractional COO specializing in health and wellness brands, she helps six and seven-figure founders reclaim 10+ hours per week through strategic automation and process optimization. Her philosophy? "Clarity is kindness." Whether it's customer journeys, SOP databases, or team communication, unclear systems create friction, missed deadlines, and founder burnout. In this episode, we explore:The top 3 operational problems in 7-figure e-comm brands (and how to fix them)Why "everything lives in the founder's head" is killing your growthThe House Analogy: Operations as piping, sales as waterProcess documentation vs. process automation (and when you need each)How to maintain SOPs without them becoming obsolete in 6 monthsThe "definition of done"—why your team isn't failing, they just don't know what complete looks likeA shocking example: A founder doing 6 figures per month still answering Slack messagesHow to test your processes "under pressure" before rolling them outWhy building your own process database might be doing yourself a disserviceHer favorite tech tools: ClickUp, ActiveCampaign, and ZapierClient retention rate as the ultimate operations metricWhether you're drowning in customer service tickets, constantly pulled into the weeds, or building systems thatnever get used, this conversation offers a clear path to operational clarity Connect with Aveline Here: Website: avelineelfar.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aveline-elfar-479aa767/Instagram: @avelineelfar.co I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.

    42 min
  3. JAN 28

    SE01E29 - Why this founder invested $1M in his own production line | FigBrew | Andy Whitehead

    Andy Whitehead traded physics research for a technology company, sold that to Samsung, and then decided to jump into the food and beverage space with FigBrew - a coffee alternative made from roasted figs. Unlike most early-stage CPG founders who work with co-packers, Andy has invested over $1 million into building his own production facility. He's even started his own fig farm, creating a vertically integrated operation from soil to shelf. In this episode, we explore:Why Andy chose to build his own production line instead of using co-packers (and when this makes sense)The shocking sustainability statistics behind coffee (spoiler: your daily cup requires 20 trees per year)How fig coffee uses 1/8th the water and 1/13th the carbon footprint of traditional coffeeWhy "nobody pulls out their wallet for sustainability" - and what actually drives purchasesLessons from selling his previous company to Samsung and building for acquisition from day oneHow to transition from hard science thinking to the qualitative world of consumer insightsHis favorite metric for measuring business health (hint: it's not what you think) Whether you're considering in-house manufacturing, building a sustainable brand, or navigating an unconventional path into CPG, Andy's story offers a refreshing perspective on what it takes to build something lasting. Guest Links:FigBrew: figbrew.comAndy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-whitehead-7653146 I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.

    51 min
  4. JAN 21

    SE01E28 - Should You Still Be CEO? | WOO More Play | Mackie Swan

    Most founders avoid this question until it's too late: Should you still be the CEO of your own company? Mackie Swan was brought in by the three original founders of WOO More Play—a sexual wellness brand sold in Anthropologie, Nordstrom, and Revolve—to scale a business they realized they shouldn't be running day-to-day. Three years later, she's taken the business to profitability while navigating the complex world of "vice categories." This isn't a conversation about sexual wellness products. It's about a decision many founders will eventually face: Am I the right person to be running the company I founded? In this episode, we explore:The "Capacity vs. Desire" framework: How to know if you've outgrown the CEO roleWhat the transition process actually looks like when bringing in an outside CEOHow to structure compensation and equity to align incentivesWhy procrastination might be telling you you're in the wrong roleHow to hire people who will actually tell you when you're wrongWhat "vice categories" means and the hidden operational challenges (PayPal froze $50K+ of their funds overnight)Why Mackie tracks EBITDA daily instead of typical vanity metricsThe difference between being a founder and being a CEO—and why they're not the same thing Whether you're a founder questioning your role, considering bringing in outside leadership, or an operator thinking about joining an early-stage brand, this conversation offers rare insight into a transition most founders don't talk about until it's too late. Guest Links:WOO More Play: woomoreplay.comInstagram: @woomoreplayLinkedIn: Mackie Swan I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.

    54 min
  5. JAN 14

    SE01E27 - The Quantitative Approach to Brand Positioning | Tapasya Bali

    In this episode of Profits on Purpose, host Nate Littlewood sits down with Tapasya Bali, a rare entrepreneur who speaks both Wall Street and Main Street. After 16 years navigating high-stakes finance at Credit Suisse, Tapasya made a bold pivot at the peak of her career to co-found Yogasmoga, an athletic apparel brand that scaled to a $74 million valuation and earned her recognition as one of Goldman Sachs's 100 most intriguing entrepreneurs. Today, she's building 100 Cal Snacks, a functional food brand tackling the healthy snacking space with laser-focused positioning around the gut-brain connection. Through her consulting business, My Consumer Brand, she helps founders navigate the intersection where brand storytelling meets financial sustainability. This conversation dives deep into the quantitative approach to brand positioning, the critical difference between market trends and patterns, and why most founders get the timing wrong on both branding investments and financial planning. Tapasya shares hard-won lessons about building teams, managing investor expectations, and why your spreadsheet projections matter more for the logic they reveal than the numbers themselves. If you've ever wondered how to find white space in crowded markets, when to implement give-back initiatives without destroying margins, or how to tell your company's story in financial terms that investors actually want to hear, this conversation delivers. KEY INSIGHTS: Brand positioning is fundamentally quantitative. Before the storytelling comes deep market research, competitor mapping, and data validation to find genuine white space in crowded categories. Distinguish between trends and patterns. Trends die quickly, but patterns reveal lasting consumer pain points. Gut health was trending, but the gut-brain connection represents a pattern with staying power. Your financial projections are planning tools, not predictions. The value isn't in hitting exact numbers but in forcing yourself to articulate your go-to-market strategy and the logic behind your growth assumptions. Invest in brand positioning before brand design. Most founders skip the strategic foundation and jump straight to logos and color schemes, then struggle with diluted messaging that doesn't differentiate. Marketing Efficiency Ratio matters more as you scale. While margins are table stakes, MER determines your ability to deploy capital effectively and directly impacts exit valuations and EBITDA multiples. Give-back initiatives can destroy value if poorly timed. Unless structured as self-sustaining models, charitable components eat into bottom lines and compress valuations that investors care about. The transition from finance to entrepreneurship is humbling. Even working 12-hour days on a trading desk doesn't prepare you for the sheer breadth of skills and relentless execution required to build a consumer brand. Patience is the hardest skill for high-velocity professionals. Consumer businesses move slower than finance. Retail timelines, fundraising cycles, and shelf placement all require recalibrating expectations from Wall Street pace. CONNECT WITH TAPASYA: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tapasya-bali/100 Cal Snacks: 100calsnacks.comMy Consumer Brand: myconsumerbrand.com If this episode helped you think differently about brand positioning or financial strategy, share it with a founder who needs to hear it. I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.

    48 min
  6. JAN 7

    SE01E26 - When Your Biggest Asset (Inventory) Is Also Your Biggest Risk | Retailytics | Bellamy Grindl

    In this episode of Profits On Purpose, host Nate Littlewood speaks with Bellamy Grindl, founder of Retailytics, about the intricacies of inventory management and supply chain operations for e-commerce and CPG founders. They discuss the evolution of operations as businesses grow, common inventory challenges, the importance of breaking down silos between departments, and strategies for effective planning and communication. Bellamy shares insights on navigating post-holiday sales recovery, the impact of COVID on supply chain strategies, and the significance of financial literacy and technology in managing inventory effectively. The conversation concludes with key performance indicators and resources for further learning. Connect with Bellamy: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bellamygrindl/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/retail_ytics/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@retail_yticsOfficial Website (URL): www.retailytics.co I hope you enjoy this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.Each episode digs into the leadership insights and financial approaches that empower consumer products businesses to grow with clarity, resilience, and impact. You'll get a behind-the-scenes look at how visionary founders reconcile their purpose with the everyday demands of scaling a successful brand and leading with both mission and margin.If you're a founder, finance leader, or simply navigating the purpose-profit paradox, this podcast is for you.

    39 min
  7. 12/24/2025

    SE01E24 - Why Predictable Revenue Beats Funding in E-Commerce | Ethnik Living | Mehmet Can Ilker

    In this episode of Profits on Purpose, host Nate Littlewood interviews Mehmet Can Ilker, co-founder of Ethnik Living, a successful home decor brand that started with minimal investment during the pandemic. Mehmet shares his journey from being an engineering student in Turkey to building a thriving e-commerce business focused on the US market. He discusses the challenges of bootstrapping, managing cash flow, navigating tariffs, and the importance of supplier relationships. The conversation also delves into the unique strategies Mehmet employed, such as creating a custom ERP system and maintaining a disciplined approach to finances. Listeners will gain insights into the importance of predictable revenue, effective customer acquisition, and the value of weekly finance meetings in driving business success. Connect with Mehmet on LinekdIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mehmet-can-ilker-545978104/ I hope you enjoy this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Nate and the Profits on Purpose podcast team Connect with Nathan Littlewood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlittlewood/Visit the Future Ready CFO website here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/Join the Future Ready Newsletter here: https://www.futurereadycfo.com/newsletter Listen to Profits on Purpose on these podcast platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1h3U1cG0zhaSwqa8f2UFXIApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087Amazon Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/profits-on-purpose/id1826982087 #profitsonpurpose #nathanlittlewood #futurereadycfo #financeleadership #cfoinsights #purposeledbusiness #scalingforimpact #financialstrategy #purposeledprofit #missiondrivengrowth #sustainablebusiness #businessleaders #entrepreneurmindset #financialclarity #scalingbusinesses #ethicalentrepreneurship #businessstrategy #impactfulleadership #cforole #executivethinkingWelcome to the Profits on Purpose podcast, where we explore the journeys of purpose-led founders and the financial strategies that help them survive and thrive. Host Nate Littlewood sits down with eCommerce and CPG founders to unpack the real-life tension between a brand's mission and the practical realities of generating profit.Each episode digs into the leadership insights and financial approaches that empower consumer products businesses to grow with clarity, resilience, and impact. You'll get a behind-the-scenes look at how visionary founders reconcile their purpose with the everyday demands of scaling a successful brand and leading with both mission and margin.If you're a founder, finance leader, or simply navigating the purpose-profit paradox, this podcast is for you.

    45 min

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