Hardly Working with Brent Orrell

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Whether you are working hard or hardly working, join AEI Resident Fellow Brent Orrell as he explores national trends and public policies affecting the vitality of the American workforce and how to prepare yourself for success in our rapidly-changing economy. And whatever else happens, we promise it will take your mind off of your job.

09/01/2025

Ben Wildavsky on the German Model of Dual-Studies

Ben Wildavsky is a veteran higher education strategist and writer, and host of the Higher Ed Spotlight podcast. He brings decades of experience in journalism and education policy, including leadership roles at Strada Education Network, the College Board, and US News & World Report. He is the author of The Career Arts: Making the Most of College, Credentials, and Connections and an award-winning expert on education-to-workforce initiatives. In this episode of Hardly Working we explore the German model of dual studies, a unique blend of vocational training and academic education, and examine its implications for the US as industries continue to evolve in the face of technological change. Ben's insights, drawn from years of leadership in education, offer valuable lessons on the future of workforce development. Mentioned in the Episode: Germany Jumps on Degree Apprenticeships National Center for the Apprenticeship Degree Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company The Career Arts: Making the Most of College, Credentials & Connections

50 min
19/12/2024

Robert Lerman on the Role of Apprenticeships in the American Economy

Robert Lerman is a research fellow at the Urban Institute and the co-founder of Apprenticeships for America, where he is dedicated to expanding opportunities for lifelong learning and ensuring that apprenticeships are a cornerstone of America’s educational landscape. Through his prolific research and advocacy, we examine the role of apprenticeships in our economy, successful policy examples in Europe, and the impact of AI and technological changes. Mentioned in the episode: Apprenticeships for America Skills-Based Hiring National Apprenticeship Resource Hub The Harold W. McGraw, Jr. 2024 Prize in Education

46 min
05/12/2024

Stuart Andreason on Skills-Based Hiring

Stuart Andreason is the Executive Director of Programs at the Burning Glass Institute where he leads efforts in research and engagement on workforce innovation, higher education, and economic mobility. Through his personal experience and his work in skills-based hiring, we look at vocation in career, skills signals, and role of technology in the hiring process. Mentioned in the episode: Burning Glass Institute Skills-Based Hiring: The Long Road from Pronouncements to Practice How Advanced Data Systems Can Do More to Drive Economic Mobility

53 min
31/10/2024

Kerry McKittrick on Education, Career Navigation, and Workforce Development

Kerry McKittrick, in her work as co-director of The Project on Workforce at Harvard, looks into different aspects of the relationship between workforce development and careers. In this episode of Hardly Working, we dive into three different reports that McKittrick has authored recently. Mentioned in the episode: The College-to-Jobs Initiative: Exploring the intersection of higher education and the workforce College-to-Jobs Map Unlocking Economic Prosperity: Career Navigation in a Time of Rapid Change Workforce Strategies for New Industrial Policies: Governors’ Emerging Solutions

47 min
17/10/2024

David Hernandez on Creating a Domestic Microprocessor Manufacturing Labor Force

Description: This week on Hardly Working, Brent Orrell talks with David Hernandez, Vice President of Education at IPC, the Global Association for Electronics Manufacturing. Brent and David discuss domestic electronics manufacturing, workforce education and training, and the global supply chain. Mentioned During the Show: IPC International, Inc. The CHIPS and Science Act

46 min
22/08/2024

Addressing Rural Economic Development With Kevin R. Kosar

On July 22, Brent Orrell from AEI and Tony Pipa from Brookings hosted a discussion about Casa Grande Valley Farms, an agricultural cooperative from the New Deal era that faced challenges and eventually failed. AEI's Kevin R. Kosar, who has republished a book on the project, joined the conversation to discuss the lessons this historical case offers for modern federal rural economic development, especially in the context of recent legislative investments like the CHIPS and Science Act. Mentioned in the episode: Tony Pipa (Brookings) Kevin R. Kosar (AEI) Casa Grande Valley Farms The Government Project by Edward C. Banfield Cooperative model The Great Depression CHIPS and Science Act No Child Left Behind USAID

1 h 27 min
08/08/2024

Russ Roberts on "Wild Problems"

Russ Roberts, President of Shalem College in Jerusalem and host of the Econtalk podcast, discusses his book, “Wild Problems: A Guide to the Decisions That Define Us. The book discusses Robert’s approach to problems that can’t be solved with normal economics analysis. In this episode, Brent and Russ also discuss the influences Russ had growing up and the advice he has for young people today. Mentioned in the Episode Wild Problems by Russ Roberts Shalem College in Jerusalem It’s a Wonderful Loaf Poem Keynes vs. Hayek Rap Battle The Price of Everything by Russ Roberts Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs Kentucky Community College Using AI to Train Peer Support Specialists F.A. Hayek Milton Friedman Deirdre McCloskey Gary Becker

1 h
18/07/2024

Sally Satel and Keith Humphreys on the Opioid Epidemic

On July 8, AEI’s Brent Orrell hosted the fifth event in the “On the Front Porch” series with the Brookings Institution’s Tony Pipa featuring Stanford University Professor Keith Humphreys and AEI’s Sally Satel, two experts in opioid treatment and the societal effects of drug abuse in rural areas. They discuss the factors that led to the opioid crisis and the challenges in resolving it. Mentioned in the Episode Tony Pipa (Brookings) Keith Humphreys (Stanford) Sally Satel (AEI) Pavlovian conditioning Origins of the Opioid Crisis and its Enduring Impacts by Abby Alpert et. al Death in Mud Lick Book by Eric Eyre Dr. Art Van Zee Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism by Anne Case and Angus Deaton Golden Leaf Foundation

56 min

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Whether you are working hard or hardly working, join AEI Resident Fellow Brent Orrell as he explores national trends and public policies affecting the vitality of the American workforce and how to prepare yourself for success in our rapidly-changing economy. And whatever else happens, we promise it will take your mind off of your job.