Leaving Eden Podcast

Leaving Eden LLC

An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion. For press, sponsorship, and other inquiries, contact LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Social Media: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. Caldwell Family Statement/Josh Duggar's Attempt to Get a New Trial (Duggar Update)

    HACE 3 DÍAS ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    Caldwell Family Statement/Josh Duggar's Attempt to Get a New Trial (Duggar Update)

    In this episode, we discuss Josh Duggar's attempt to vacate his conviction and secure a new trial based on the theory that Caleb William was the guilty party in his crime. We discuss his issues with filing deadlines, as well as how quickly Josh's sentence has gone by. We also discuss the statement released by the Caldwell Family regarding Joe Duggar's alleged crimes, what this says about their current situation and their relationship with Kendra. Sadie also talks about Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction fake bible quote. The Patreon extended version of this episode includes Sadie recording a parody of the 2014 Michelle Duggar robocall in which Michelle Duggar fearmongered about trans people in bathrooms. Sources for this episode are on this Patreon post (The text of this post is NOT paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/156103157 00:00 - Intro: 04:16 - A correction and a clarification 07:05 - WE DO NOT SPECULATE OR IDENTIFY THE VICTIM 15:27 - Josh Duggar is trying to get out of prison (AGAIN) 23:58 - Prison Mailbox rule 29:35 - The timing is impeccable and Jack Schaap 34:09 - Josh's sentence is FLYING by 38:14 - Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction "Bible" Quote 46:56 - Caldwell Family Statement Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    56 min
  2. Are Christians exempt from taxation?

    14 ABR

    Are Christians exempt from taxation?

    In this episode, we discuss Christian beliefs around taxation, as well as why some fundamentalist Christians like Kent Hovind have opted for a sovereign citizen defense. At the end of the episode, we discuss the creative ways that Jim Bob Duggar has avoided taxation by passing his tax burden off onto his children. Source images are located on this Patreon post (the sources are not paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/are-christians-155188116 00:00 - Intro 02:00 - Intro 03:43 - Tax season 04:31 - Kent Hovind, Dinosaur Adventure Land, Structuring 08:34 - Render Unto Caesar 12:05 - Romans 13 and historical context 16:39 - Sovereign citizenship 20:00 - The 14th Amendment 23:14 - Suing the IRS 25:46 - Convicted! 29:50 - Jim Bob Duggar 32:24 - The clobber verses vs. financial ethics 34:04 - Magical Thinking 37:15 - Gavi's Flow Chart Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    37 min
  3. Christian-ese translated to English: Duggar Family Turns on Joe, Emails Decoded

    7 ABR ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    Christian-ese translated to English: Duggar Family Turns on Joe, Emails Decoded

    In this episode, Gavi proves how much he has learned about fundie culture by showing Sadie his INSPIRED AND PRESERVED translation from Fundie/Christian-ese to plain English of the Duggar Jail Emails that were obtained by Lilly Archive using the FOIA. Sadie then provides additional cultural context as well as a few things from these emails that stood out to her. In the extended Patreon edition of this episode, we discuss Amy Duggar King's April Fools Day post in which she joked about interviewing Bill Gothard. Sources, images, and additional material are located here (Yes it is a link to Patreon, but these things are not behind a paywall) https://www.patreon.com/posts/duggar-family-on-154932362/edit?postId=duggar-family-on-154932362 SPECULATING ON THE IDENTITY OF JOE DUGGAR'S VICTIM IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. 00:00 - Intro 01:45 - Sadie was raised Fundie, Gavi was NOT! 03:39 - What do people miss? 05:56 - "Bless Your Heart" 07:50 - "I Love You and Jesus Loves You" 13:04 - The Letter from Austin Forsyth 18:33 - Gavi's Translation of Austin's letter 20:48 - Thank You to our Patrons! 22:22 - Josh Duggar's Jail Emails 26:13 - Chariots of Fire 27:37 - Josh is the Prodigal son 30:07 - Gavi's Translation of the Josh Letter 32:22 - Jim Bob is delusional 35:15 - Jim Bob's letter to Joe 38:27 - King David 40:29 - THE PUN 44:56 - God's Plan for Joe 47:34 - Gavi's Translation of Jim Bob's letter to Joe 50:18 - It will happen again 52:42 - Josh/Anna/John David Letters 56:13 - Will there be a trial? Joe Duggar's Lawyer Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 h
  4. Caldwells Vs. Duggars? The Caldwells raise funds for a legal battle

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    Caldwells Vs. Duggars? The Caldwells raise funds for a legal battle

    In this episode, we discuss the GoFundMe that Paul Caldwell (Kendra Duggar's father) posted which has since been deleted. All of the sources for this episode are located here, on this post on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/posts/caldwells-vs-for-154830204 00:00 - Intro 04:12 - Disclaimers 05:13 - The Caldwells' latest moves 08:00 - GoFundMe taken down 08:35 - We have so many questions 10:55 - The Caldwells are not IBLP 12:41 - Sadie's connection with the Caldwells 14:49 - Thank you to our patrons! 16:18 - The Caldwells live in Joe and Kendra's house? 18:08 - The Jailhouse call 18:38 - Why do they need the house back? 20:01 - The no contact orders are REAL 21:00 - Kicking people out of houses 21:29 - SAFE housing? 23:06 - What do you need legal fees for? 24:06 - Quitclaim Deeds 25:58 - the D word? 27:06 - Is divorce allowed in the fundie world? 31:26 - You never know what is going on in these families 34:41 - Jim Bob is controlling 36:56 - Do any of these motivations make sense? 38:41 - IFB vs. IBLP 45:57 - Which scenario do you think is most likely? Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    47 min
  5. The Jail Emails/Joe Duggar Pleads Not Guilty: Our Analysis

    3 ABR ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    The Jail Emails/Joe Duggar Pleads Not Guilty: Our Analysis

    Today we discuss the latest developments in the Joe Duggar case. Duggar has pleaded Not Guilty to all charges in Florida, has been released on a $600,000 bond, and (we think) is back in Arkansas. YouTuber Lily Archive has released numerous phone calls as well as emails sent to Joe Duggar while he was in jail in Arkansas. She obtained this material using a FOIA request (she has shown provenance). These are extremely telling. We give our impressions on this material, especially focused on the emails. Lily Archive's FOIA request documentation https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1sag5mu/proof_of_joes_jail_emails_i_got_via_foia_request/ Junior_Wolf9331's pictures of Jim Bob and Joe at the airport https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1s9261f/jim_bob_joseph_at_panama_city_fl_airport/ UPDATE: Between the time of filming and release of this episode, Washington County District Court sent me the documents that were published by Katie Joy as well as others, and they are the same documents, they are real. 00:00 - Intro 04:23 - DISCLAIMERS (We might be wrong) 05:29 - Joe Duggar pleads NOT GUILTY and is out on bond 08:06 - Will there be a trial? 09:30 - What will the defense strategy be? 11:45 - Jim Bob/Michelle Duggar statement 12:30 - Josh Duggar vs. Joe Duggar favoritism 13:45 - Getting the confession excluded 17:08 - Thank you to our patrons! 18:36 - The Phone Calls/Lily Archive 24:40 - The Emails 24:50 - Jim Bob's Email 26:55 - King David and Joseph 32:27 - Josh is the smartest Duggar? 35:21 - Austin Forsyth's email 37:52 - Anna Duggar's email 40:45 - It's all coming apart Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    43 min
  6. Shiny Happy People Star joins us to talk about Duggar arrests, fake(?) documents, and IBLP

    31 MAR ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    Shiny Happy People Star joins us to talk about Duggar arrests, fake(?) documents, and IBLP

    Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general. These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases we mentioned in the episode. https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.html https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html 00:00 - Intro 01:44 - Subscribe to our Patreon! 02:20 - NO VICTIM SPECULATION 02:45 - Katie Joy and the fake(?) court documents 04:50 - What is a trusted source? 08:04 - Josh got visitation with his kids 11:02 - Thank you to our patrons! 12:48 - Statement from Jinger and Jeremy 15:40 - Statement from Jason and Maddie 19:50 - IBLP fails young men 22:00 - Phone call between Joe and Kendra 24:58 - Kendra is in a difficult spot 29:25 - Every home is a cult and every father is a cult leader 30:23 - Why do we talk about this? The stakes are high! 34:53 - Listener Questions! 35:17 - 6th amendment rights 37:35 - Why did Jim Bob want to be on TV? 40:47 - Child Endangerment Clarification 45:08 - What if the Duggars were allowed to date? 47:29 - Gothardism and Jim Bob's trauma 53:54 - Why are all the Duggar daughters social media influencers? 55:35 - Did Jim Bob and Michelle reconsider their choices? 55:58 - Why do the women stay? 57:50 - How to bring down the IBLP Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 h 4 min
  7. Kendra Duggar charged/Duggar family statements/Will there be a trial?

    24 MAR ·  CONTENIDO EXTRA

    Kendra Duggar charged/Duggar family statements/Will there be a trial?

    In this episode, we discuss the continuing fallout from Joseph Duggar's arrest for child molestation, including Kendra Duggar's Child Endangerment/False Imprisonment charges, our breakdown of these charges, family statements made by/on behalf of Duggar family members, and our speculation on whether or not this case will go to trial. In the extended patreon edition, we discuss in greater detail our impressions of Amy Duggar after our (limited) interactions with her when she was a guest on our show while promoting her book. CW for discussion of CSA and CSAM AT NO POINT will we be speculating on the identity of the victim. 02:00 - Kendra Duggar Arrested! 02:52 - Please subscribe and join our Patreon! 04:28 - Tonitown police file charges 06:45 - What "Unrelated" means 07:40 - WE ARE NOT LAWYERS 07:55 - Endangering the Welfare of a Minor 10:05 - New Information about Joe's Confession 11:40 - Our Original Theory 12:22 - Locks on the doors? 13:40 - Unsecured Firearms 14:40 - False Imprisonment 14:50 - Jason does not use power tools safely 16:30 - IBLP and Cult of Personality 16:50 - Magical Thinking 17:35 - How serious are Kendra's charges? 24:44 - Thank you to our Patrons! 26:19 - Jill and Derick Dillard's statement 29:48 - Jessa and Ben Seewald's Statement 30:22 - Amy Duggar King's Statement 31:41 - Amy's book plug 35:40 - Access and Accountability 37:59 - People who deconstruct and stay Christian 40:40 - Josh Duggar's Statement 46:03 - Joseph Duggar's Phone Call 47:20 - Jim Bob is running everything 48:44 - Will there be a trial? 49:04 - Can you imagine being Michelle Duggar? 51:17 - No statement from Jim Bob and Michelle 52:27 - We hope the victim's name never comes out 54:55 - Megyn Kelly is not a real journalist 55:57 - We hope the stories of survivors continue to be taken seriously 57:29 - Should Christians pay taxes? 55:29 - Should Christians pay taxes? Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    56 min

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An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion. For press, sponsorship, and other inquiries, contact LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Social Media: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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