Proximity Is Power

Gage Heward

Welcome to Proximity Is Power, hosted by me, Gage Heward. At 17, right before high school graduation, my dad and I had a pivotal conversation over lunch. He asked about my post-school plans, and I told him I wanted to be successful like he was. He shared that his success was shaped by two key factors: the books he read and the people he met. Emphasizing the influence of your closest circle, he said you become the average of the five people around you. This philosophy gave birth to Proximity of Power. Since then, I've embraced the habit of daily reading and listening to books while actively seeking out successful individuals to learn from. Living my dad’s advice completely transformed every aspect of my life in a positive way. While I'm not perfect, I've grown significantly in all areas of life: physically mentally, spiritually, and emotionally/socially. Proximity Is Power shares inspiring interviews with the most successful people in each area of life that I can find with the goal to inspire YOU to unlock your inner power and live your best life.

  1. 8 JUL

    Faith, Fire, and Fainting on the Doors: How Jake Robles Became a Powerhouse

    In this episode, I sit down with Jake Robles — a 23-year-old stud who went from being adopted, expelled from school, and chasing pro gaming… to leading a 4,000-account team and earning a Golden Door at Vivint. His story is raw, real, and inspiring. We go deep on trauma, trust, leadership, faith, and the fire it takes to become world-class — not just in sales, but in life. We talk about: ✅ Growing up adopted and learning to read people early ✅ How rejection fueled his obsession to be the best ✅ Selling 10 accounts his third day on the doors — at 16 years old ✅ Getting hospitalized mid-summer from pushing too hard — and not stopping ✅ Building confidence by doing things the right way (even when no one’s watching) ✅ Leaving Vivint at the top to follow a deeper calling ✅ Using social media as a weapon to inspire, recruit, and build brand ✅ Why love is the ultimate sales and leadership hack ✅ How faith in God anchored him when success didn’t fulfill him Books Mentioned: • The Surrender Experiment — Michael A. Singer • The Untethered Soul — Michael A. Singer • The Power of Now — Eckhart Tolle • The Bible — most life-changing of all Quote to live by: “Nothing external affects how you feel — it’s all a choice.” If you’re in the trenches chasing big goals, rebuilding, leading others, or just trying to figure out who you’re becoming — this one’s a must-listen. Connect with Jake: @jake.robles Podcast Website: https://bio.site/Proximityispower

    1 h y 10 min
  2. 24 JUN

    From $186 Paychecks to Financial Freedom: The Story of My Dad, Matt Heward

    In this episode, I sit down with someone very special — my dad, Matt Heward — and trace the path that shaped him from a ranch kid in Snowflake, Arizona, to a successful entrepreneur and wealth manager with a heart for service and family. This one’s packed with lessons you don’t just hear — you feel. We talk about: ✅ Growing up on a cattle ranch and learning the value of hard work ✅ The summer in Korea that changed everything — and nearly ended in disaster ✅ The early struggles of entrepreneurship, chasing medical school, and finding a new path ✅ The first $186 paycheck that nearly broke him — and why it became a pivotal moment ✅ Helping others win as the biggest secret to long‑term success ✅ Why proximity is power and the role mentors play in reshaping your future ✅ Building a life where money is a tool for freedom, not a source of worry ✅ Making an impact that lasts beyond the balance sheet Books Mentioned: • The Greatest Salesman in the World — Og Mandino • Stand for Something — Gordon B. Hinckley • As a Man Thinketh — James Allen • Think and Grow Rich — Napoleon Hill • Outwitting the Devil — Napoleon Hill • The Strangest Secret — Earl Nightingale Quotes to live by: • “People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.” • “If you can help enough people win, you can’t help but win yourself.” • “The person you have to become is worth more than the money you make.” This episode is a roadmap for anyone looking to build a life of purpose, impact, and financial freedom — and a reminder that who you surround yourself with is often more important than where you came from. Podcast Website: https://bio.site/Proximityispower

    1 h y 29 min
  3. 17 JUN

    From Broke Pastor to 500+ Flips and a Dream Life in Maui — The Wild Rise of Cam Cathcart

    In this episode, I sit down with Cam Cathcart—a former pastor who went from making $40K a year and driving Uber on weekends… to flipping over 500 homes, building a $15M rental portfolio, and living in Brandon Turner’s old house in Maui. Yeah. You read that right. Cam’s story is unreal—but what makes it powerful isn’t just the money. It’s the clarity, the discipline, and the vision he built before the success ever came. We talk about: ✅ The $15,000 hospital bill that sparked everything ✅ Driving Uber, selling garage sale flips—and barely scraping by ✅ How a random BiggerPockets episode changed the trajectory of his life ✅ Writing “Live in Hawaii” in his 10X planner every day until it came true ✅ Buying Brandon Turner’s house—and now co-hosting a podcast with him ✅ The difference between a real estate investor and a business owner ✅ Why visualization, obsession, and belief are the real cheat codes ✅ Leadership lessons, fatherhood, burnout, and building a life that lasts Books Mentioned: • The Intentional Father – Jon Tyson • The Perfect Week Formula – Craig Ballantyne • Good to Great – Jim Collins • The Greatest Salesman in the World – Og Mandino Quotes to live by: • “Somebody’s gonna do it—why not me?” • “Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.” • “Bet on yourself.” This conversation is a full masterclass in mindset, real estate, and building a future on purpose. Cam doesn’t just talk it—he lives it. Follow Cam: @cam.cathcart 🎙️ Watch my episode on The Better Life podcast with Cam and Brandon Turner: https://youtu.be/gTt2b20I0Mo?si=b3NCBmlqAVt4brvY Podcast Website: https://bio.site/Proximityispower

    1 h y 19 min
  4. 10 JUN

    Peter Montes de Oca on Dropping Out, Digging Trenches, and Building 3 Companies | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Peter Montes de Oca—former school counselor turned entrepreneur, founder of a booming cleaning and construction company, and a man whose story proves that pain can shape purpose. Peter grew up in LA with immigrant parents, lost his mom at 15, dropped out of high school, and spent years stuck in survival mode—smoking, drifting, and digging trenches for $60/day. But moments of grace, mentors who believed in him, and his own relentless spirit helped him flip the script. Now, he leads over 250 employees, runs multiple companies, and is a proud husband, father, and student of personal growth. We talk about: ✅ How losing his mom changed everything—and what snapped him out of the spiral ✅ The community college professor who changed his life with one comment ✅ Starting a cleaning company from nothing—and scaling it with heart ✅ The $1,000 mistake that led to a 6-figure deal (years later) ✅ Why doing the right thing—even when it hurts—is the ultimate business strategy ✅ How he treats his employees like family—and why it’s his favorite part of entrepreneurship ✅ The habits, books, and mindsets that keep him grounded as a husband, dad, and leader Books Mentioned: • Ikigai – Héctor García & Francesc Miralles • Essentialism – Greg McKeown • Make Your Bed – Admiral William H. McRaven • The Greatest Salesman in the World – Og Mandino • The Magic of Believing – Claude M. Bristol • The Power of Positive Thinking – Norman Vincent Peale Peter’s story is honest, hilarious, emotional, and packed with wisdom for anyone who’s chasing more but wants to do it with integrity. Podcast Website: https://bio.site/Proximityispower

    1 h y 24 min
  5. 3 JUN

    From Arrested at 8 to CEO: Hal Rosen’s Wild Ride to Success | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Hal Rosen—former CEO of EnviroShare Solutions, environmental compliance expert, and founder of the nonprofit Give a Crap. Hal went from a chaotic childhood—getting arrested with his dad at age 8, growing up around drugs, violence, and financial scarcity—to building a multimillion-dollar company, traveling the world, and ultimately choosing healing, contribution, and deep personal transformation. What makes Hal different? He didn’t just build wealth—he faced his trauma, got clean, found God, and reinvented what success looks like from the inside out. We talk about: ✅ Growing up in chaos—and the early hustle that shaped him ✅ How Landmark & Tony Robbins helped him stop numbing and start living ✅ Building a 25-year company from scratch—and why he walked away ✅ The power of presence, vulnerability, and getting out of your head ✅ Sobriety, spirituality, and the real ROI of inner work ✅ The $9M lesson he learned from buying classic cars instead of investing ✅ His advice to young entrepreneurs, leaders, and men who want more out of life Books Mentioned: • The Untethered Soul – Michael A. Singer • The Way of the Peaceful Warrior – Dan Millman • The E-Myth Revisited – Michael E. Gerber Hal’s lived a wild, full, and deeply human life—and this conversation is a masterclass in resilience, growth, and what it really means to live in your heart. Connect with Hal: Website: lessonsfromabove.com Instagram: @begreenbuddha Podcast Website: https://bio.site/Proximityispower

    54 min
  6. 27 MAY

    From Homeless to $4B in Real Estate Sales w/ Shoney Ivens | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Shoney Ivens real estate investor, leadership coach, and CEO of a top Keller Williams franchise in Utah. Shoney went from a childhood marked by addiction, uncertainty, and even homelessness… to leading 300+ agents who’ve closed over $4 billion in sales in just four years. What makes his story different? He didn’t just escape a rough start—he built a life of purpose, wealth, and impact by investing in himself, building powerful relationships, and helping others do the same. We dive into how Shoney used door-to-door sales to unlock his potential, the mentors that shaped him, and the systems he’s now teaching others to scale with both success and peace. Key Topics: ✅ Overcoming childhood trauma, addiction, and uncertainty ✅ The 3 investments that changed his life forever ✅ 7 years of door-to-door leadership & stacking rental properties ✅ How he scaled fast in real estate—doing 36 deals his first year ✅ Why most agents stay broke—and how to break through ✅ How to use systems, leverage & AI to buy back your time ✅ Leading 300 agents without burning out ✅ How to win in business and be present as a husband and dad ✅ The truth about motivation and how to actually move people ✅ Why proximity is the shortcut—and how to use it Books Mentioned in This Episode: • The Alchemist – Paulo Coelho • Think and Grow Rich – Napoleon Hill • The Millionaire Real Estate Investor – Gary Keller • The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari – Robin Sharma • 12 Pillars – Jim Rohn • The Miracle Morning – Hal Elrod • Who Not How – Dan Sullivan & Dr. Benjamin Hardy • The Ultimate Jim Rohn Library – Jim Rohn (audio) Shoney’s a leader who leads from the front—and this conversation is packed with wisdom, systems, and mindset shifts to help you grow your business and your life. Connect with Shoney: Instagram: @shoneyivens Podcast Website: https://bio.site/Proximityispower

    51 min

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Welcome to Proximity Is Power, hosted by me, Gage Heward. At 17, right before high school graduation, my dad and I had a pivotal conversation over lunch. He asked about my post-school plans, and I told him I wanted to be successful like he was. He shared that his success was shaped by two key factors: the books he read and the people he met. Emphasizing the influence of your closest circle, he said you become the average of the five people around you. This philosophy gave birth to Proximity of Power. Since then, I've embraced the habit of daily reading and listening to books while actively seeking out successful individuals to learn from. Living my dad’s advice completely transformed every aspect of my life in a positive way. While I'm not perfect, I've grown significantly in all areas of life: physically mentally, spiritually, and emotionally/socially. Proximity Is Power shares inspiring interviews with the most successful people in each area of life that I can find with the goal to inspire YOU to unlock your inner power and live your best life.

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