S1E41 D&C 30

In this episode, we begin with a detour into Rosh Hashanah traditions, feeding ducks, shofars, and an unexpected dinner invitation from a rabbi in Phoenix. Richard shares how his Jewish roots and LDS faith intersect in surprising ways, leading to a fascinating discussion with rabbis about Adam, Eve, agency, and original sin. From there, Gerrit seamlessly pivots to D&C 30, unpacking the aftermath of the Hiram Page seer stone revelations and why this near-schism matters for understanding prophetic authority today. They draw connections between early Church challenges and modern struggles with apostasy, social pressure, and trusting “good people” over living prophets. Sign up for our free monthly email (seldom monthly): ⁠ ⁠⁠https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com⁠⁠ If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: ⁠⁠⁠questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com Rex's Elders Quorum President's Show Notes: 01:24 – Richard explains the Tashlich tradition of casting bread into water before Yom Kippur. 03:26 – Talking heritage: balancing Jewish roots with LDS identity. 04:32 – Memories of Rabbi Zippel and the ease of luring Richard with Judaism or rice tariffs. 05:17 – Dinner with Chabad Phoenix; small community, warm hospitality. 06:04 – Symbolism in a multi-course Jewish meal; Psalms as a spiritual soundtrack. 09:51 – Contrast between Calvinist original sin and LDS reverence for Adam and Eve. 10:50 – Outcasts among Christians and Jews; shared sense of marginalization. 12:27 – Section 30 context: aftermath of Hiram Page’s false revelations. 13:24 – How Seer Stone “revelations” nearly split the early church. 15:14 – Speculation on what Hiram Page may have taught (original sin, baptism). 16:20 – John 9: the blind man healed; Pharisees echo Calvinist ideas of sin. 18:17 – Section 30 as a composite revelation: three parts, three addresses. 20:15 – The Whitmers’ credibility (Three and Eight Witnesses) vs. their susceptibility to deception. 22:18 – David Whitmer’s chastening: fearing man, not God. 24:21 – Application: ignoring spiritual promptings under social pressure. 26:22 – Parallels with Joseph Smith’s struggle to please Martin Harris. 28:25 – Temporal vs. eternal rewards; discipleship requires patience. 30:28 – Even faithful families can be deceived; modern apostasy examples. 32:30 – Peter Whitmer Jr. called to preach with Oliver Cowdery. 36:34 – Why spiritual charisma isn’t proof of truth. 38:36 – Don’t trust in the “arm of flesh”; prophets as guardrails. 42:40 – Heuristics we use for truth; dangers of persuasion by “good people.” 44:42 – Preparing for Conference: receive messages “with patience and faith.” 48:46 – How to listen to Conference prayerfully, with humility. 50:48 – Historian’s caveat: don’t elevate podcasters or influencers above prophets. 52:50 – John Whitmer’s charge; Seneca Falls branch and Parley P. Pratt’s zeal. 54:52 – Pratt as the original “Netflix binger” of the Book of Mormon. 56:54 – Section 30 lessons: don’t be deceived; follow ordained channels.