Fat Science

Dr Emily Cooper

Fat Science is a podcast on a mission to explain where our fat really comes from and why it won’t go (and stay!) away. In each episode, we share little-known facts and personal experiences to dispel misconceptions, reduce stigma, and instill hope. Fat Science is committed to creating a world where people are empowered with accurate information about metabolism and recognize that fat isn’t a failure. This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace professional medical advice.

  1. 26 JAN

    Mailbag: Food Tracking, Mechanical Eating Troubleshooting, COVID & Metabolism, and Metformin + GLP-1 Synergy

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor answer listener mailbag questions from California, the UK, France, Washington, Wyoming, and beyond.  The team breaks down why Dr. Cooper does not recommend calorie tracking (and when limited tracking can make sense), how to build confidence in eating without data, and why “mechanical eating” sometimes needs medical customization—especially for people with slow gut transit or gastroparesis-like symptoms.  They also dig into bile acid malabsorption after gallbladder removal, when metformin side effects deserve a second look, what we currently know about COVID-19’s potential impact on metabolic health, and why metformin and GLP-1 medications can be complementary—particularly in PCOS. Key Takeaways• Long-term calorie tracking can override physiologic cues and reinforce diet mentality.• Short-term, targeted tracking may be useful when guided by a clinician (e.g., nutrient deficiencies ).• Obesity and abnormal appetite are both manifestations of metabolic dysfunction—not simple cause and effect.• Mechanical eating is a framework, not a rigid rule—timing and food choices may need medical tailoring.• Post-gallbladder diarrhea may reflect bile acid malabsorption and can be treatable.• Metformin and GLP-1s often complement each other because they target different metabolic states (fasting vs fed). Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips• Stop daily calorie counting—focus on consistent patterns and metabolic nourishment.• Use mechanical eating basics: eat every few hours, include all food groups, and reduce chemical additives when possible.• If you’re transitioning away from tracking, consider a dietitian skilled in diet-mentality recovery.• If frequent eating worsens sleep or bloating, work with a medical dietitian to adjust intervals and food types (especially with slow GI transit).• If chronic diarrhea appears (especially after gallbladder removal), ask your clinician about bile acid malabsorption and treatment options.• Use labs to guide therapy: fasting insulin can signal metformin benefit; post-meal patterns can point toward GLP-1 needs. Notable Quote“Once you start using tracking to stay in a calorie range or a carbohydrate range, you’re putting your brain in front of your physiologic intuition—your body is sending you important cues all the time.”—Dr. Emily Cooper Links & Resources The Metabolic Links to PCOS, Release Date 2/24/25 The COVID Connection to Diabetes & Metabolic Health, Release Date 12/16/24 Podcast Home: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/Episode References: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Scientific-References-Fat-Science-Episodes.pdfCooper Center: https://coopermetabolic.com/podcast/Resources from Dr. Cooper: https://coopermetabolic.com/resources/Submit a Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.com *Fat Science: No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better. This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be medical advice.

    41 min
  2. 19 JAN

    Mailbag: GLP-1 Weight Regain, Meals vs Snacks, and Why Some People Don’t Respond

    his week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor answer listener mailbag questions that get to the heart of metabolic health. The team explains the real difference between meals and snacks, discusses whether GLP-1 medications can be appropriate for children in complex cases, explores why some people appear to be “non-responders” to Wegovy, and breaks down why alarming headlines about rapid weight regain miss the bigger metabolic picture. They also explain how to set a goal weight using body composition, labs, and overall health—rather than the scale alone. Key Questions Answered• What separates a meal from a snack metabolically?• Why can grazing all day backfire—even with healthy food?• Are GLP-1s ever appropriate for kids?• Why do some people feel hungrier as GLP-1 doses increase?• How are PCOS and insulin dysregulation connected?• What is a mixed meal tolerance test, and why does it matter?• Do GLP-1 users really regain weight faster?• How should goal weight be determined after major weight loss? Key Takeaways• Meals provide structure; snacks prevent long gaps—both matter.• GLP-1 “non-response” often signals deeper metabolic issues.• Weight regain reflects underlying dysfunction, not personal failure.• Maintenance dosing must be individualized.• Body composition matters more than BMI or scale weight. Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips• Eat structured meals with carbs, protein, and fats.• Use snacks strategically to avoid long gaps.• Ask about deeper glucose/insulin testing when progress stalls.• Prioritize DEXA body composition over scale-based goals.• Avoid compounded GLP-1s—especially in children. Notable Quote “If you stop treating the metabolic dysfunction, the dysfunction is still there—and the body will drive weight back to where it was headed all along.”—Dr. Emily Cooper Links & ResourcesPodcast Home: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/Episode References: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Scientific-References-Fat-Science-Episodes.pdfCooper Center: https://coopermetabolic.com/podcast/Resources from Dr. Cooper: https://coopermetabolic.com/resources/Submit a Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.com Fat Science: No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better. This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be medical advice.

    42 min
  3. 12 JAN

    What the Headlines Get Wrong About GLP-1 Drugs and Metabolism

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor break down two GLP-1 studies that challenge a major media myth: GLP-1 medications don’t drive weight loss just because people eat less. Instead, drugs like tirzepatide and semaglutide create direct metabolic shifts—including increased fat oxidation and improved fuel partitioning—regardless of appetite. The team also explores mechanical eating, the psychological impact of “diet food,” and Andrea’s 13-year metabolic recovery journey. Key Questions Answered If both groups are dieting, why does the tirzepatide group lose more weight?What is metabolic adaptation, and why does dieting slow metabolism so sharply?How do GLP-1s directly increase fat oxidation?What is mechanical eating, and why do GLP-1 users need it?Why does ad-lib eating produce different metabolic responses than calorie restriction?Can mindset alone change hunger hormones? (Yes—the milkshake study.)Why do diet foods and diet sodas fail to improve metabolic health?Why is response to GLP-1s so different from person to person? Key Takeaways GLP-1s are metabolic drugs—not appetite suppressants.Their power comes from hormonal effects on fat burning, not reduced food intake.Calorie restriction still slows metabolism.Even on GLP-1s, dieting triggers significant metabolic slowdown.Ad-lib eating outperforms dieting in the research.Semaglutide users who ate freely did not show the extra metabolic slowdown seen in dieters.Mechanical eating is the most durable long-term approach.Regular meals and snacks protect lean mass and prevent famine signaling.Mindset shapes hormones.Believing a food is “diet” vs. “indulgent” alters ghrelin and satisfaction.Track body composition—not just the scale.DEXA scans show whether you’re losing fat, muscle, or bone. Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips Don’t diet on GLP-1s. Focus on fueling, not restriction.Use mechanical eating: predictable meals and snacks, no long gaps.Prioritize satisfaction: diet foods often backfire hormonally.Follow your real-world data: long-term changes matter more than short-term scale shifts.Ask about body composition testing if possible. Notable Quote: “What that study proved is that doing the calorie restriction is causing the metabolic slowing… and that’s why it’s so confusing to me that we keep advising people to restrict calories when they’re trying to improve their metabolic function.” —Dr. Emily Cooper Links & Resources Podcast Home: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/Episode References: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Scientific-References-Fat-Science-Episodes.pdfCooper Center: https://coopermetabolic.com/podcast/Resources from Dr. Cooper: https://coopermetabolic.com/resources/Submit a Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.comDr. Cooper Email: dr.c@fatsciencepodcast.com Fat Science: No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better. This podcast is for informational only, and is not intended to be medical advice.

    46 min
  4. 5 JAN

    GLP-1 Mailbag: Weight Regain, Leptin Resistance, Hypoglycemia & Why Calories Aren’t the Problem

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor tackle a wide-ranging mailbag episode with listener questions from the U.S., UK, and Europe. Topics include unexpected weight regain on GLP-1s, post-meal sleepiness and hypoglycemia, metabolic dysfunction despite normal labs, GLP-1 dosing strategies, and why these medications are about metabolism, not appetite suppression. Key Questions Answered Why can weight regain happen on GLP-1s even when habits haven’t changed?How do leptin, ghrelin, injury, stress, and under-fueling affect weight regulation?What does it mean if you get extremely sleepy after meals—is it hypoglycemia?Do GLP-1s increase insulin in a harmful way for non-diabetics?Can you have metabolic dysfunction with normal A1C, cholesterol, and blood pressure?Do GLP-1 medications “wear off,” and how should dosing be adjusted long term?Are GLP-1s just appetite suppressants—or true metabolic treatment?Is it possible to undo decades of calorie counting and restriction-based thinking?What are the risks of the return to extreme thinness in celebrity culture?Key Takeaways Calories don’t explain metabolism. GLP-1 and GIP work across the brain and body—repairing signaling, not just reducing appetite.Leptin matters after dieting. Years of restriction and weight cycling can weaken leptin signaling, making the brain defend weight gain.Fueling is foundational. Medication can’t replace adequate food, sleep, and recovery.Post-meal fatigue is a clue. Reactive hypoglycemia is common and often misunderstood.Lowest effective dose wins. GLP-1 success is about pacing, not racing to the max dose.Chasing the “last 10 pounds” can backfire. Cosmetic restriction can create new metabolic problems.Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips If weight gain appears after injury or stress, focus first on sleep, regular meals, and full fueling, not restriction.Suspected hypoglycemia? Ask about a mixed meal tolerance test to assess glucose and insulin response.Stay on the lowest GLP-1 dose that’s working and adjust only when progress truly stalls.Push back on “appetite suppressant” language—these meds amplify hormones your body already makes.Notable Quote “GLP-1s aren’t about eating less—they’re about strengthening metabolic signaling” — Dr. Emily Cooper Links & Resources Podcast Home: Fat Science Podcast Website – https://fatsciencepodcast.com/ Podcast Episode References: https://fatsciencepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Scientific-References-Fat-Science-Episodes.pdfCooper Center for Metabolism & Fat Science Episodes: https://coopermetabolic.com/podcast/Resources from Dr. Cooper: https://coopermetabolic.com/resources/Submit a Show Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.comDr. Cooper direct show email: dr.c@fatsciencepodcast.com Fat Science breaks diet myths and advances the science of real metabolic health. No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better. This show is informational only and does not constitute medical advice.

    40 min
  5. 29/12/2025

    Childhood Obesity, Eating Disorders & GLP-1s: Why It’s Not Your Fault

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor talk with pediatric eating disorder specialist Dr. Julie O’Toole (Kartini Clinic) and pediatric obesity expert Dr. Evan Nadler about what childhood obesity really is: a biologic, metabolic disease—not a willpower problem and not a failure of parenting. They explore how excess weight, constant hunger, and disordered eating in kids are often signs of underlying metabolic dysfunction and genetics—and why the old “eat less, move more” advice can do real harm, especially when children are shamed or restricted in the name of “health.” Key Questions Answered Why is childhood obesity a metabolic disease, not a behavior problem?How are obesity and eating disorders deeply connected instead of opposite extremes?What role do GLP-1 medications play in children—and how do we protect against under-fueling?When should parents suspect genetic drivers like hyperphagia or MC4 mutations?How can medical treatment for obesity actually reduce disordered eating behaviors?When does excess weight become a medical issue requiring metabolic evaluation—not another diet? Key Takeaways Weight is a symptom. Childhood obesity is often a sign of metabolic dysfunction, not overeating.Obesity & eating disorders overlap. Restriction can trigger disordered eating; disordered eating can worsen obesity.“Eat less, move more” harms. Shame-based approaches delay treatment and increase risk of eating disorders.GLP-1s work metabolically, not just through appetite suppression. Kids still need consistent fueling.Genetics matter. Single-gene differences can drive severe childhood hunger & rapid weight gain.Not treating is harm. Avoiding obesity care violates first, do no harm. Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips If your child is gaining weight or constantly hungry, request metabolic labs (insulin, glucose, lipids, liver, hormones).If the doctor only says “eat less, move more,” ask: “How are we evaluating metabolism and genetics?”On GLP-1s? Monitor for under-fueling (skipped meals, low energy, food anxiety) and intervene promptly. Notable Quote “Not treating childhood obesity is doing harm. It’s a disease, not a lifestyle choice.” — Dr. Evan Nadler Links & Resources Podcast Home: Fat Science WebsiteEpisodes & Show Archive: Cooper Center Podcast PageEducation & Metabolic Resources: coopermetabolic.com/resourcesSubmit a Show Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.comEmail Dr. Cooper Directly: dr.c@fatsciencepodcast.com Connect with Our Guests Dr. Evan P. Nadler, MD, MBA – Founder, ProCare Consultants & ProCare TeleHealthWebsite: obesityexplained.comYouTube Channel: Obesity Explained Dr. Julie K. O’Toole, M.D., M.P.H. – Chief Medical Officer & Founder, Kartini ClinicWebsite: kartiniclinic.comBooks: amazon.com/author/julieotoole *Fat Science breaks diet myths and advances the science of real metabolic health. No diets. No agendas. Just science that makes you feel better. This episode is informational only and not medical advice.

    1h 15m
  6. 22/12/2025

    I’m Working Out—So Why Am I Getting Fatter?

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor talk with exercise physiologist Russell Cunningham and patient Becca Wert about a counterintuitive reality: for some people, exercise can actually slow metabolism, stall weight loss, and trigger weight gain—especially when the brain senses a threat to energy availability.  Dr. Cooper explains how overtraining, under-fueling, and even thinking about workouts can activate famine signals in the brain and shut down key hormone pathways and what it takes to rebuild trust so movement becomes helpful instead of harmful. Key Questions Answered How can exercise trigger metabolic slowdown and weight gain instead of weight loss?What lab markers (leptin, ghrelin, thyroid, cortisol, sex hormones) signal that your body is in “conservation mode”?Why did Becca lose more than 120 pounds after stopping intense workouts—and what did her COVID experience reveal about her metabolism?How did Russell’s overtraining syndrome develop, and what did his recovery teach him about fueling, rest, and nervous system regulation?How should fueling before, during, and after activity look different for people who are highly sensitive to energy deficits?When is it time to pull back on exercise, even if every message you’ve heard says “move more”?Key Takeaways Exercise is stress, not magic. When the brain perceives low energy or famine risk, it can respond to exercise by slowing metabolism, shutting down hormones, and defending body fat.Labs tell the story. Low leptin with high “famine signals,” along with thyroid, cortisol, and reproductive hormone suppression, are red flags that the body is conserving energy—not freely burning fuel.Fueling beats punishment. For sensitive metabolisms, you often “can’t overdo the fueling” around movement—sports drinks and carbs, even for short sessions, can help reassure the brain that it’s safe.Movement ≠ grind. Reframing exercise as enjoyable movement and nervous system regulation (walking, gentle climbing, yard work) helps break from all-or-nothing “training” mindsets that can backfire.Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips If your weight climbs or stalls despite hard workouts and restricted eating, talk with a clinician about metabolic labs instead of just pushing harder.Cushion any exercise with real fuel: eat before, add carbs/electrolytes during, and refuel after—especially if you have a history of dieting, overtraining, or weight cycling.Consider starting with low-intensity, pleasant movement and always “leave gas in the tank” instead of chasing exhaustion as the goal.Notable Quote“Exercise should not be used as a weight loss tool. It should be used as a performance and a health tool.” — Dr. Emily Cooper Links & ResourcesPodcast Home: Fat Science Podcast Website – https://fatsciencepodcast.com/Cooper Center for Metabolism & Fat Science Episodes: https://coopermetabolic.com/podcast/Resources and education from Dr. Cooper: https://coopermetabolic.com/resources/Submit a Show Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.comDr. Cooper direct show email: dr.c@fatsciencepodcast.com Fat Science is your source for breaking diet myths and advancing the science of true metabolic health. No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better. The show is informational only and does not constitute medical advice.

    1h 2m
  7. 15/12/2025

    The Latest GLP-1 News

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor unpack the biggest GLP-1 headlines from around the world—from the World Health Organization’s first-ever GLP-1 obesity guidelines to access battles, brain research, and the coming wave of generics and new meds. Dr. Cooper explains what the WHO’s move really means for patients, why long-term treatment matters, and how policy decisions in places like California and India could reshape who actually benefits from these breakthroughs. This isn’t hype—it’s metabolic medicine, health-system reality, and grounded hope. Key Questions Answered Why is the WHO’s new guidance on GLP-1s for obesity such a historic turning point?What does it mean to treat obesity as a chronic, relapsing disease—not a willpower problem?Why do GLP-1s usually need to be taken long term, and how is that similar to blood pressure or cholesterol meds?How should GLP-1s be paired with metabolic care—fueling, sleep, movement, and real clinical oversight?What did the “stone cold negative” Alzheimer’s trials show—and why are addiction trials still promising?How could India’s launch of Ozempic and future generics impact global pricing and access?What new GLP-1 and metabolic drugs are on the horizon (like orforglipron, higher-dose oral semaglutide, and GLP-1/amylin combos)? Key Takeaways WHO is catching up to the science. Obesity is affirmed as a chronic, relapsing disease that deserves pharmacologic treatment—not “eat less, move more” lectures or moral judgment.Long-term meds are the rule, not the exception. Stopping GLP-1s usually leads to weight and risk factors returning, just like stopping blood-pressure meds. That’s physiology, not failure.Behavior ≠ blame. WHO calls for pairing GLP-1s with “behavioral” care—but Dr. Cooper reframes this around fueling, sleep, and supported habits, not deprivation or diet culture.Access is the battleground. Even as WHO elevates GLP-1s, programs like California’s Medi-Cal are cutting coverage for obesity, a move Dr. Cooper calls penny-wise and pound-foolish given the downstream costs of diabetes and cardiovascular disease.Brain outcomes are nuanced. Large oral semaglutide trials failed to slow Alzheimer’s, but GLP-1s (and other obesity meds) still show promise for addiction by modulating reward pathways and the “internal drug factory” (POMC).Global markets are shifting. India’s huge population, looming Ozempic patent expirations, and emerging generics could eventually drive prices down—especially as more manufacturers compete.New meds may expand options. Orforglipron (a small-molecule oral GLP-1), higher-dose oral semaglutide, and a weekly GLP-1/amylin combo could bring more flexible, powerful, and potentially more affordable tools. Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips Think of obesity treatment like any chronic disease: long-term, medical, and individualized—not a short-term “diet.”If you’re using a GLP-1, pair it with real metabolic care: consistent fueling (not under-eating), good sleep, and appropriately fueled exercise.Be cautious with “cheap” or unsanctioned online GLP-1 options—especially if you’re being squeezed out of coverage. Safety and oversight matter.Remember there are other evidence-based obesity meds beyond GLP-1s; if you can’t tolerate or access one class, ask your clinician about alternatives. Notable Quote “Your metabolism is a lifelong issue. It’s not a headache.”— Andrea Taylor Links & Resources Podcast Home: Fat Science Podcast Website – https://fatsciencepodcast.com/ Cooper Center for Metabolism & Fat Science Episodes: https://coopermetabolic.com/podcast/ Resources and education from Dr. Cooper: https://coopermetabolic.com/resources/ Submit a Show Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.comDr. Cooper direct show email: dr.c@fatsciencepodcast.com *Fat Science is your source for breaking diet myths and advancing the science of true metabolic health. No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better.

    40 min
  8. 08/12/2025

    Listener Mailbag: Set Point Theory, Trauma & Metabolism, and Why 1200 Calories Can Still Lead to Weight Gain

    This week on Fat Science, Dr. Emily Cooper, Mark Wright, and Andrea Taylor answer listener questions about BMI cutoffs, weight cycling, metabolic adaptation, trauma, GLP-1 differences, and why some people gain weight on ultra-low calories. Dr. Cooper explains what’s really happening inside the metabolic system and why individualized treatment—not dieting—creates sustainable change. Key Questions Answered If my BMI doesn’t “qualify” for GLP-1s, is Naltrexone + Bupropion helpful—and what labs matter first?Does being overweight always indicate metabolic dysfunction, and why are U.S. rates so high?If diets damage metabolism, what do you do when you’re already 80 pounds overweight?How long does it take for leptin and ghrelin to stabilize with mechanical eating?How can someone gain weight on 1,200 calories/day?After sleeve gastrectomy, how do you eat enough while on a GLP-1?Is set point theory real—and how does the melanocortin pathway influence it?If obesity runs in my family, will I need meds like Zepbound for life?How do trauma and stress alter long-term metabolic health?Can GLP-1s offset weight gain from steroids, mood meds, or hormones?Why might Ozempic work well while Mounjaro causes weight gain?Key Takeaways 1. BMI rules don’t reflect metabolic truth.A mid-20s BMI can still mask significant dysfunction, especially with weight cycling. 2. Weight cycling is metabolically stressful.Repeated losses/regains increase visceral fat, insulin abnormalities, and cardiovascular risk. 3. Obesity is a multi-hormonal disease.Most people need pharmacology plus sleep, fueling, and movement—not restrictive dieting. 4. Metabolic adaptation is powerful.Under-fueling lowers thyroid output, suppresses fat-burning, and slows metabolism dramatically. 5. After bariatric surgery or on GLP-1s, frequency matters.Frequent, nutrient-dense snacks protect muscle, metabolism, and energy. 6. Set point changes with better signaling.GLP-1s and related therapies help the brain accurately detect weight and lower the defended level. 7. Genetics often mean lifelong support.Family patterns of obesity usually indicate long-term need for metabolic medication. 8. Trauma amplifies metabolic risk.Childhood trauma disrupts IGF-1, sleep, stress hormones, insulin, leptin, and ghrelin. 9. Medications can cause weight gain—GLP-1s can help counteract it.Steroids, mood meds, hormonal agents, and more can be metabolically unfriendly. 10. “Newer” isn’t always better.Some people respond poorly to the GIP component in Mounjaro/Zepbound. Individual physiology rules. Dr. Cooper’s Actionable Tips Request deeper evaluation: DEXA, visceral fat, fasting insulin/glucose, leptin, reproductive hormones.Stop restrictive dieting permanently—mechanical eating protects metabolic stability.Work with a fueling-focused dietitian (often ED-trained).Review your medication list for drugs known to cause weight gain.Don’t switch GLP-1s or chase higher doses if your current regimen works.Notable Quote “Obesity isn’t a willpower problem. It’s a metabolic disease, and when the underlying system is supported, the body finally has permission to change.” — Dr. Emily Cooper Links & Resources Podcast Home: Fat Science Podcast WebsiteSubmit a Show Question: questions@fatsciencepodcast.com or dr.c@fatsciencepodcast.comDr. Emily Cooper on LinkedInMark Wright on LinkedInAndrea Taylor on Instagram Fat Science is your source for breaking diet myths and advancing the science of true metabolic health. No diets, no agendas—just science that makes you feel better. The show is informational only and does not constitute medical advice.

    47 min

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Fat Science is a podcast on a mission to explain where our fat really comes from and why it won’t go (and stay!) away. In each episode, we share little-known facts and personal experiences to dispel misconceptions, reduce stigma, and instill hope. Fat Science is committed to creating a world where people are empowered with accurate information about metabolism and recognize that fat isn’t a failure. This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace professional medical advice.

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