It's Complicated

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Join former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and former FBI Special Agent and Yale Law School lecturer Asha Rangappa as they break down for Legal AF the biggest legal and political stories with sharp insight, real experience, and an unapologetic pro-democracy perspective. No spin, no both-sides nonsense — just the facts, the law, and what it all means for our democracy.

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Episode 157 | Trump Admin Torpedoes Their Own Cases in Court

DHS Secretary Kristi Noem was served another loss in court this week, as a federal district judge prevented her from removing Temporary Protected Status for more than 350,000 Haitians. Asha and Renato discuss why Judge Ana Reyes called out Noem’s “hostility to nonwhite immigrants” and how Noem and Trump seem to be torpedoing their own cases with unhinged and unnecessary public statements. Then, Renato and Asha review the Justice Department’s latest actions to fulfill Trump’s agenda of vengeance, including the seizure of 2020 election records in Georgia and the arrest of the journalist and former CNN anchor Don Lemon. Listen up! Happy Hour Form: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ulj-YG6M8kS_691M0FALjfmFfLYa_OpBnph9e1Co8ftURVBPSDJZNE9YSjJGM0ZPNTFFRUxaOElZTCQlQCN0PWcu Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Become a member of Legal AF YouTube community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgZJZZbnLFPr5GJdCuIwpA/join Become a member of the Legal AF Substack: https://michaelpopok.substack.com/20off Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Subscribe to the Intersection with Michael Popok podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-intersection-with-michael-popok/id1818863274 Subscribe to Unprecedented with Michael Popok and Dina Doll podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unprecedented-by-legal-af/id1867023089 Subscribe to Court of History with Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-court-of-history/id1867022920 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

55 min.
2 FEB.

Episode 156 | Trump DOJ Gambles with Constitutional Misconduct

As the nation absorbed the shock of Alex Pretti’s killing in Minneapolis, the state of Minnesota argued in federal court that the Trump administration was violating the 10th Amendment with Operation Metro Surge. Asha and Renato discuss how the federalism argument can be a check on the Trump administration, which appears to be using 3,000 ICE and Border Patrol agents to intimidate Minnesota officials into doing what it wants. Plus, Renato and Asha analyze ICE’s contention that its agents can use administrative “warrants” to enter a person’s home to conduct a search and arrest, possibly violating the 4th Amendment. Tune in! Garrett Graff Doomsday Scenario: "ICE 101" — How Trump changed ICE and CBP into a fascist secret police: https://www.doomsdayscenario.co/p/ice-101-how-trump-changed-ice-and-cbp-into-a-fascist-secret-police Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Become a member of Legal AF YouTube community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgZJZZbnLFPr5GJdCuIwpA/join Become a member of the Legal AF Substack: https://michaelpopok.substack.com/20off Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Subscribe to the Intersection with Michael Popok podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-intersection-with-michael-popok/id1818863274 Subscribe to Unprecedented with Michael Popok and Dina Doll podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unprecedented-by-legal-af/id1867023089 Subscribe to Court of History with Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-court-of-history/id1867022920 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

47 min.
24 IAN.

Episode 155 | Trump CRUMBLES on WORLD STAGE as BLOWS UP WORLD ORDER

Shortly after Trump made tariff and military threats against European allies over Greenland, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered a blistering speech in Davos, saying the world order as we know it “is in the midst of a rupture.” Western leaders also have expressed dismay that the U.S. has become an untrustworthy partner. Asha and Renato chat with CNN’s Jim Sciutto on how Trump’s “Fortress America” view and volatile foreign policy moves have upended a world order in place since the middle of the 20th century and how it all potentially makes the U.S. less safe and less prosperous. Plus, Renato and Asha discuss the DOJ’s purported investigation of Minnesota officials, including Governor Tim Walz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and St. Paul Mayor Kaohly Her, over their public statements on ICE’s tactics in their state. Tune in! Jim Sciutto's Book: The Return of Great Powers https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/734287/the-return-of-great-powers-by-jim-sciutto/ Virtual Cruise Info Session Hosted by Asha and Renato: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ulj-YG6M8kS_691M0FALjfmFfLYa_OpBnph9e1Co8ftURVBPSDJZNE9YSjJGM0ZPNTFFRUxaOElZTCQlQCN0PWcu Alaska cruise: https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Become a member of Legal AF YouTube community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgZJZZbnLFPr5GJdCuIwpA/join Become a member of the Legal AF Substack: https://michaelpopok.substack.com/20off Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Subscribe to the Intersection with Michael Popok podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-intersection-with-michael-popok/id1818863274 Subscribe to Unprecedented with Michael Popok and Dina Doll podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unprecedented-by-legal-af/id1867023089 Subscribe to Court of History with Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-court-of-history/id1867022920 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

58 min.
16 IAN.

Episode 154 | MASS Resignations at DOJ as ICE Shooting UPENDS DOJ

Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 The nation was stunned last week when an ICE officer shot and killed Renee Nicole Good, a Minneapolis resident and U.S. citizen. Within hours, Trump administration officials slammed the mother of three, saying she was trying to hit the agent with her vehicle. Yet videos posted to social media revealed that she appeared to be turning her car away from the officer. Asha and Renato assess whether anyone will be held accountable for the killing of Renee Good, the mass resignations at the Minnesota U.S. Attorney’s Office and the false claim from law school graduate JD Vance that the ICE officer has “absolute immunity.” Plus, Renato and Asha discuss the revelation that Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell is being investigated by federal prosecutors over building renovations at the central bank, part of a destabilizing pressure campaign by Trump to get the Fed to cut interest rates. Listen up! Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Become a member of Legal AF YouTube community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgZJZZbnLFPr5GJdCuIwpA/join Become a member of the Legal AF Substack: https://michaelpopok.substack.com/20off Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Subscribe to the Intersection with Michael Popok podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-intersection-with-michael-popok/id1818863274 Subscribe to Unprecedented with Michael Popok and Dina Doll podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unprecedented-by-legal-af/id1867023089 Subscribe to Court of History with Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-court-of-history/id1867022920 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

56 min.
8 IAN.

Episode 153 | Trump’s Maduro Raid Traced to a Secret Legal Memo

Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 In a shock to the world, the Trump administration launched a military operation that nabbed Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro in a daring midnight assault. Asha and Renato discuss how a controversial decades-old legal memo written by a young Bill Barr surfaced in the White House’s arguments for snatching Maduro, and they dig into why the Trump administration is insisting the raid was just a law enforcement operation and not a violation of the U.N. Charter. Renato and Asha also go over what Trump’s assertion of executive and military power means for the rest of the world, especially as the President gleefully issued warnings over the weekend to Colombia, Cuba and Denmark. Plus, they discuss the federal case against Maduro, who claims that he is the head of state and immune from prosecution. Listen up! Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Become a member of Legal AF YouTube community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgZJZZbnLFPr5GJdCuIwpA/join Become a member of the Legal AF Substack: https://michaelpopok.substack.com/20off Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Subscribe to the Intersection with Michael Popok podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-intersection-with-michael-popok/id1818863274 Subscribe to Unprecedented with Michael Popok and Dina Doll podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unprecedented-by-legal-af/id1867023089 Subscribe to Court of History with Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz podcast feed here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-court-of-history/id1867022920 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

50 min.
5 IAN.

Episode 152 | Trump's DOJ Gets DISSECTED as They BLOW PAST DEADLINE

Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 In late December, the Department of Justice missed the federally mandated deadline to release all the Epstein files, citing the huge number of files it needs to process. On Christmas Eve, the DOJ revealed it had “found” another 1 million Epstein documents and recent reports claim there are more than 5 million documents yet to be reviewed. Asha and Renato break down the Epstein files saga and how Congress can compel Attorney General Pam Bondi to comply with the law. Plus, they discuss the latest revelation that the U.S. bombed a facility for the first time on Venezuelan soil. Finally, Asha and Renato analyze the ethics of generative AI and search engines. Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.socialFollow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.socialFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalaf Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1h 5m
05.12.2025

Episode 151 | Trump Admin PANICS as Congress OPENS New PROBE | It's Complicated

After a bombshell report that the U.S. military targeted and killed shipwrecked survivors of a Venezuelan boat strike, Congressional lawmakers from both sides of the aisle announced they’d be investigating the potentially illegal act. Asha and Renato speak with NYU law professor Ryan Goodman to find out if the Trump administration committed a war crime and who could be held accountable. Plus, they cover the latest developments in a federal judge’s attempt to hold DHS officials in contempt for defying his order to return Venezuelan migrants being deported to an El Salvador prison. Tune in! Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalaf Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

50 min.
28.11.2025

Episode 150 | Trump’s Retaliation Campaign Goes Off the Rails

Several Democratic lawmakers recently released a video reminding members of the U.S. military that they can refuse illegal orders. An angry President Trump called the lawmakers traitors and accused them of sedition on Truth Social. After Trump’s post, the Pentagon announced it’s looking into allegations of “misconduct” by one of the lawmakers, Sen. Mark Kelly, a former Navy combat pilot, and the FBI appears to be investigating the others. Asha and Renato discuss this latest abuse of power by Trump and whether the investigations are a menacing message to former military officials. Plus, they break down a federal judge’s dismissal of the James Comey and Letitia James indictments and the chances of those cases going away. Listen up!Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.socialFollow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.socialFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Cruise with us! https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalaf Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

46 min.

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It's Complicated!

On Topic with Renato Mariotti is now It's Complicated with Renato Mariotti AND Asha Rangappa! Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/ Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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