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Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

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  1. 28 Sept ·  Bonus • Subscribers Only

    September Bonus: Wellness Tiktok Cooked Mike's Brain

    Mike and Aubrey descend into madness while fact-checking wellness TikToks. It's probably because of the Large Hadron Collider.

  2. 21 Sept

    RFK Jr.'s Buckwild Belief That HIV Doesn't Cause AIDS

    The rise, fall and rise of the most nonsensical conspiracy theory we've ever heard. Thanks to Gregg Gonsalves for helping us fact-check this episode!  Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! Denying AIDS: Conspiracy Theories and Pseudoscience in a Post-COVID WorldImpure Science: AIDS, Activism, and the Politics of KnowledgeThe Duesberg PhenomenonAIDS Denialism Beliefs among People Living with HIV/AIDSHIV Denial in the Internet EraHIV Denial in the COVID EraHow COVID conspiracy theories led to an alarming resurgence in AIDS denialismThe Man Who Thought AIDS Was All In The MindAIDS "Dissident" Seeks RedemptionTruth and Heresy About AIDSDefending the boundaries of scienceJustice After AIDS DenialismAIDS Denialism vs. ScienceThe UnbelieverEstimating the lost benefits of ARV use in South AfricaConspiracy beliefs about HIV/AIDSAre HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Beliefs a Barrier to HIV Prevention Among African Americans?HIV causes AIDS: Koch's postulates fulfilledAIDS And The Scientific Governance Of Medicine In Post-Apartheid South AfricaThe DenialistsHas Duesberg a right of reply?Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show

  3. 31 Aug ·  Bonus • Subscribers Only

    August Bonus: The Tradwives Are Defecting

    In recent years, tradwives have been a mainstay of the MAHA/raw milk scene. But recently, a number of prominent tradwives have distanced themselves from the movement. What's behind the rise and fall of tradwives?

  4. 29 Jul ·  Bonus • Subscribers Only

    July Bonus: The '90s Diet Book That Gave Us the MAHA Blueprint

    Are you sick of Politically Correct Nutrition that's constantly being pushed by Diet Dictocrats?? So are the raw milk creeps at The Weston A. Price Foundation. This month, Aubrey's walking Mike through the rhetoric and recipes in "Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook That Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats." Also, Mike & Aubrey learn what lacto fermentation is, and it's unappealing!

  5. 27 Jul

    Why Don't We Have a Surgeon General?

    We’re nearly halfway through Trump's second term and we still don’t have a Surgeon General. What gives? Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! White House withdraws nomination of Janette NesheiwatTrump’s Surgeon General Pick Distorted Key Parts of Her Résumé Dr. Janette Nesheiwat takes role at Walter Reed treating Havana SyndromeWhen Did RFK Jr Start Listening to Calley and Casey Means? What Casey Means and MAHA Want You to FearTrump’s Surgeon General Pick Is Tearing the MAHA Movement ApartTrump surgeon general pick said mushrooms helped her find loveThe Dizzying Rise of MAHA Warrior Calley MeansCasey Means Poised to Become Nation’s Top Doctor Casey Means discloses financial ties to supplement industry Laura Loomer Targets Trump’s Pick for Surgeon GeneralThe Bad Science of Good Energy Trump's Surgeon General Pick Tried to Trademark MAHA Can Trump's latest pick for surgeon general make it through confirmation?New surgeon general pick in deleted posts criticized Trump, RFK JrTrump’s pick for SG sells supplement with ingredient banned by Pentagon Trump’s new surgeon general pick deepens MAHA-MAGA riftThanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show

  6. 28 Jun ·  Bonus • Subscribers Only

    June Bonus: Ultraprocessed Foods Go To Washington

    This month we're talking about the increasing calls for public health experts to align with RFK Jr. to define and regulate "ultraprocessed foods." Not necessarily in that order.

  7. 10 Jun

    Salt

    In the 1980s, a low-sodium diet was seen as the gold standard for healthy behavior. In 2026, salt has been repackaged as “electrolytes” and is now cast as a core component of wellness. How did we get here? Also, an important correction: One pound of butter to one pound of potatoes is Joel Robuchon’s recipe. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! The 25 Saltiest Restaurant Meals in America Facts, Issues, and Controversies in Salt Reduction for the Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease Salt Wars The INTERSALT Study: background, methods, findings, and implicationsSodium reductionSodium Intake Reduction: An Important But Elusive Public Health GoalEffects of Diet and Sodium IntakeSalt intake, stroke, and cardiovascular disease Racial and Ethnic Differences in Sodium Sources and Sodium Reduction Behaviors Among US AdultsThe Great Salt Debate: So Bad?Salt guidelines draw heavy backlashSodium Reduction in US Households’ Packaged Food and Beverage PurchasesBlood pressure lowering efficacy of angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors for primary hypertensionThanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show

  8. 29 May ·  Bonus • Subscribers Only

    May Bonus: Taste-Testing Bella Hadid, Khloe Kardashian and Mr. Beast

    Spring has sprung, the flowers are in bloom and the influencers are back on their b******t. This month, we're digging in on influencer-led wellness brands that are suddenly everywhere: Unwell (Alex Cooper), Khloud Protein Popcorn (Khloe Kardashian), Kin Euphorics (Bella Hadid) and Lunchly (Mr. Beast). That means we're back to sipping on dumb bitch juice (adaptogens and protein powder).

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Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

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  • Creator
    Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    159
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Maintenance Phase
  • Show Website
    Maintenance Phase
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