The Design VC

Andy Budd

The Design VC is a podcast about the intersection of creativity and capital — and how design can help early-stage startups turn vision into traction. Each week, I talk with founders, investors, and founding designers about the decisions that shape the hunt for product–market fit: when to bring design in, what to look for in a great founding designer, and how design helps you earn traction (not just attention) by getting what you’re building into the hands of customers faster. We get practical about the questions founders actually have. When should I hire a designer? What value can design bring before you’ve nailed the product? How do you use design to sharpen positioning, improve onboarding, and increase activation — not just make things look nicer? Along the way, you’ll hear how investors think about design as a signal and a competitive edge, and how the best teams navigate the trade-offs — speed versus craft, instinct versus evidence, product versus story. Hosted by Andy Budd, designer-turned-VC and author of The Growth Equation. If you’re building an early-stage startup and trying to find product–market fit, this podcast will help you make smarter calls earlier.

Episodes

  1. 21 JAN

    Des Traynor (Intercom): Design, PMF, and What Founders Get Wrong Early

    Intercom didn’t start as Intercom. In this first episode of The Design VC, Des Traynor takes us back to the scrappy days of running a design consultancy with a side project, and the moment a tiny in-app message, a speech bubble popping out of a star in the corner of the UI, hinted at something bigger than the product it was built for. That small interaction became the seed of Intercom’s now-ubiquitous in-app messenger, and eventually a company that reshaped how startups communicate with customers. We talk about what it really takes to get from “this seems cool” to “this is working”. How they used their existing network to get early traction, why direct, human outreach still beats automated growth theatre, and what made the early pitch of “talking to your customers inside the product”, so compelling that people immediately wanted in. Then we fast-forward to the second act. Des shares what it’s like when a new platform shift forces you to re-think your product strategy in public. We talk about the internal debate that led Intercom to go all-in on AI, how the team navigated the risk of a major pivot, and what founders often underestimate when they try to ship AI features into a product that already has paying customers and a reputation to protect. It’s a candid conversation about the messy sequencing of product, story, distribution, and belief, and how to spot the signals that you’ve found a real wedge, and when you need to reinvent it.

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About

The Design VC is a podcast about the intersection of creativity and capital — and how design can help early-stage startups turn vision into traction. Each week, I talk with founders, investors, and founding designers about the decisions that shape the hunt for product–market fit: when to bring design in, what to look for in a great founding designer, and how design helps you earn traction (not just attention) by getting what you’re building into the hands of customers faster. We get practical about the questions founders actually have. When should I hire a designer? What value can design bring before you’ve nailed the product? How do you use design to sharpen positioning, improve onboarding, and increase activation — not just make things look nicer? Along the way, you’ll hear how investors think about design as a signal and a competitive edge, and how the best teams navigate the trade-offs — speed versus craft, instinct versus evidence, product versus story. Hosted by Andy Budd, designer-turned-VC and author of The Growth Equation. If you’re building an early-stage startup and trying to find product–market fit, this podcast will help you make smarter calls earlier.