Empire

Empire features interviews with top crypto founders to get the real stories that aren’t shared elsewhere. Empire is your look behind the curtain of the crypto industry. We release two episodes per week: guest interviews on Monday and a weekly roundup on Friday.

  1. 13 MIN AGO

    How Rain Grew To A $2B Company | Charles Yoo-Naut

    This week, Charles Yoo-Naut joins the show to unpack Rain's explosive growth and what's next for crypto payments. We deep dive into the Rain origin story, their recent $250M fundraise, partnering with Visa, who wins the crypto card race, how Rain grew to a $2B company, and more. Enjoy! -- Follow Charles: https://x.com/cnaut Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire:https://x.com/theempirepod -- Coinbase crypto-backed loans, powered by Morpho, enable you to take out loans at competitive rates using crypto as collateral. Rates are typically 4% to 8%. Borrow up to $5M using BTC as collateral and up to $1M using ETH as collateral. Manage crypto-backed loans directly in the Coinbase app with ease. Learn more here: https://www.coinbase.com/onchain/borrow/get-started?utm_campaign=0126_defi-borrow_blockworks_empire&marketId=0x9103c3b4e834476c9a62ea009ba2c884ee42e94e6e314a26f04d312434191836&utm_source=empire -- "Mantle Global Hackathon 2025 is live! Running from Oct 22 to Dec 31, Mantle invites builders to design the future of Real-World Assets (RWAs) on its modular L2 stack. Key Highlights: - $150,000 Prize Pool + Grants & Incubation opportunities - Access to Bybit's 7M+ verified users - Judges from Bybit Ventures, Spartan, Animoca Brands - 6 Tracks: RWA/RealFi, DeFi, AI, ZK, Infra, GameFi Join the Hackathon: https://www.hackquest.io/vi/hackathons/Mantle-Global-Hackathon-2025" -- This Empire episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Onchain Economy ETF (NODE): http://vaneck.com/EmpireNODE An investment in the Fund involves a substantial risk and is not suitable for all investors. It is possible to lose your entire principal investment. The Fund may invest nearly all of its net assets in either Digital Transformation Companies and/or Digital Asset Instruments. The Fund does not invest in digital assets or commodities directly. Digital asset instruments may be subject to risks associated with investing in digital asset exchange-traded products (“ETPs”), which include the historical extreme volatility of the digital asset and cryptocurrency market, as well as less regulation and thus fewer investor protections, as these ETPs are not investment companies registered under the Investment Company Act of 1940 (“1940 Act”) or commodity pools for the purposes of the Commodity Exchange Act (“CEA”). Investing involves substantial risk and high volatility, including possible loss of principal. Visit vaneck.com to read and consider the prospectus, containing the investment objective, risks, and fees of the fund, carefully before investing. © Van Eck Securities Corporation, Distributor, a wholly owned subsidiary of Van Eck Associates Corporation. -- Uniswap’s Trading API offers plug-and-play access to deep onchain and off-chain liquidity, delivering enterprise-grade crypto trading without the complexity - from one of the most trusted teams in DeFi. Click to get started with seamless, scalable access to Uniswap’s powerful onchain trading infrastructure. https://hub.uniswap.org/?utm_source=blockworks&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ww_web_bw_awa_trading-api_20251117_podcast_clicks -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:52) The Rain Origin Story (15:23) Partnering With Visa (30:05) The Opportunity In Emerging Markets (36:48) Ads (Coinbase, Mantle, VanEck, Uniswap) (40:16) The Crypto Card Race, Agentic Payments & Onchain Credit (48:00) What Chains Does Rain Work With? (53:28) Rain’s Journey To Raising $250m (01:03:00) How Rain Grew To A $2B Company -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    1h 13m
  2. 2 DAYS AGO

    Why Is Crypto Crashing? | Weekly Roundup

    This week, Josh Lim from FalconX joins the show to discuss the recent market sell-off. We deep dive into Josh's outlook for 2026, who is crypto's marginal buyer, the Ethereum L2 roadmap, Kyle Samani's announcement of leaving Multicoin and more. Enjoy! -- Follow Josh: https://x.com/joshua_j_lim Follow Rob: https://x.com/HadickM Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire:https://x.com/theempirepod -- Coinbase crypto-backed loans, powered by Morpho, enable you to take out loans at competitive rates using crypto as collateral. Rates are typically 4% to 8%. Borrow up to $5M using BTC as collateral and up to $1M using ETH as collateral. Manage crypto-backed loans directly in the Coinbase app with ease. Learn more here: https://www.coinbase.com/onchain/borrow/get-started?utm_campaign=0126_defi-borrow_blockworks_empire&marketId=0x9103c3b4e834476c9a62ea009ba2c884ee42e94e6e314a26f04d312434191836&utm_source=empire -- (00:00) Introduction (03:41) State of the Market (08:48) Josh's Outlook For 2026 (18:45) The SaaS-Pocalypse & Crypto's Marginal Buyer (26:12) Coinbase Ad (26:58) The Crypto to AI Rotation (37:24) The Ethereum L2 Roadmap (47:27) Kyle Samani Leaves Multicoin (01:01:45) Why Is Josh Still In Crypto? (01:03:57) Content of The Week -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    1h 16m
  3. 4 DAYS AGO

    Quadrillions: Stablecoins: We’ve Only Just Begun | Mohamed Afifi

    In this episode, we break down the state of stablecoins and why they’ve been able to bridge the gap into TradFi’s mainstream. Who’s adopting stablecoins and why? How are stablecoins changing the financial and legislative landscape? And what does this mean for the future of the larger crypto landscape?  -- Follow Canton: https://x.com/CantonNetwork Follow Mo: https://x.com/Mo_Bps Follow Eric: https://x.com/wesarn_real Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod -- Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (1:56) The Evolution of Stablecoins (8:43) The Stablecoin Stack (11:16) Who is Building on HIFI? (12:57) Cross-border Payments (15:55) Stablecoin Market Share (22:49) Canton's Stablecoin Strategy (26:09) The Stablecoin Landscape (28:33) The Importance of Privacy (31:58) Stablecoin Fragmentation (35:05) Agentic Payments (36:52) General Purpose vs Specialized Chains (41:29) What is the Industry Missing? (45:06) Closing Comments -- Disclaimer: “Quadrillions” is a mini-series produced by Blockworks, and is sponsored by Canton Network. Nothing on this show is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. It’s for informational purposes only, and the views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice or necessarily the views of Blockworks. Our hosts, guests, and the Blockworks team may hold positions in companies, funds, or projects discussed, including those related to Canton Network.

    48 min
  4. 2 FEB

    Why BitGo Went Public | Mike Belshe

    This week, we’re joined by CEO and Co-founder of BitGo, Mike Belshe, to discuss BitGo’s IPO, their motivations for going public, and the IPO process. We dive into allocation decisions, key product growth areas, and views on regulation, crypto market structure, and future industry evolution. Enjoy! – Follow Mike: https://x.com/mikebelshe Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod – Coinbase crypto-backed loans, powered by Morpho, enable you to take out loans at competitive rates using crypto as collateral. Rates are typically 4% to 8%. Borrow up to $5M using BTC as collateral and up to $1M using ETH as collateral. Manage crypto-backed loans directly in the Coinbase app with ease. Learn more here:  https://www.coinbase.com/onchain/borrow/get-started?utm_campaign=0126_defi-borrow_blockworks_empire&marketId=0x9103c3b4e834476c9a62ea009ba2c884ee42e94e6e314a26f04d312434191836&utm_source=empire  – Timestamps: (01:50) BitGos IPO & Early Supporters (07:22) Why go public (09:45) The IPO Process (30:39) Determining Allocations (37:49) Ads (Coinbase) (38:41) BitGos Role as an infrastructure company (46:15) BitGo's Fastest Growing Products (58:20) BitGo going forward (01:02:37) Web2 vs web3 (01:06:41) BitGo's Journey & Lessons Learned (01:14:39) Replacing the Incumbents —-- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    1h 19m
  5. 30 JAN

    The Bull Case For DePIN, RWAs on Hyperliquid & The Onchain Endgame | Weekly Roundup

    This week, we break down the evolving DePIN thesis, from real revenue traction to infra financing, regulation, and why some networks are finally compounding at scale. We also discuss the boom in Hyperliquid RWAs, bringing money & companies onchain, 2026 IPOs, and more. Enjoy! -- Follow Salvador: https://x.com/DAnconia_Crypto  Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz  Follow Rob: https://x.com/HadickM  Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel  Follow Empire:https://x.com/theempirepod     -- Coinbase crypto-backed loans, powered by Morpho, enable you to take out loans at competitive rates using crypto as collateral. Rates are typically 4% to 8%. Borrow up to $5M using BTC as collateral and up to $1M using ETH as collateral. Manage crypto-backed loans directly in the Coinbase app with ease. Learn more here:  https://www.coinbase.com/onchain/borrow/get-started?utm_campaign=0126_defi-borrow_blockworks_empire&marketId=0x9103c3b4e834476c9a62ea009ba2c884ee42e94e6e314a26f04d312434191836&utm_source=empire   -- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:44) Escape Velocity $61.74M Raise (05:500 The Case For DePIN (12:34) InfraFi And Bringing Money Onchain (22:07) Bear Case For DePIN And Top DePINs (30:57) Ads (Coinbase) (31:42) Metals And Hyperliquid RWAs (43:31) Crypto Integration Into FinTech (55:18) The State Of Compliance (58:49) 2026 IPOs (01:04:38) The Carvana Of Crypto (01:09:220 Content Of The Week (01:15:29) Claude Cowork -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    1h 18m
  6. 26 JAN

    Why Kraken Is Betting Big on Onchain Vaults | John Zettler & Sun Raghupathi

    This week, we’re joined by John Zettler, Director of Product at Kraken and Sun Raghupathi, Co-founder of Veda, to discuss their collaboration to bring onchain vaults to Kraken! We explore the growth of onchain vaults, how vaults package DeFi lending and yield strategies, vault mechanics, risk management, business models, comparisons to past yield products, and implications for DeFi adoption and future TVL growth. Enjoy! Resources 2026 Predictions Episode: https://youtu.be/yagd3CT2VQk?si=G1cFXBpODiWZ-pQR – Follow John: https://x.com/JohnZettler Follow Sun: https://x.com/sunandr_ Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod – Timestamps: (02:45) What is a vault (09:26) The Evolution of Vaults (14:31) Vault Key Parties (21:49) Vault Business Models (29:14) Building Vaults with Coinbase and Morpho (33:29) Vaults Today vs BlockFi & Celsius (37:42) Bringing Vaults to Kraken (39:55) Determining Yield & Adding More Vaults (41:51) What made Yano Bullish on Vaults (45:52) Behind the Scenes (50:24) Vault Risks (56:37) Morpho's Model vs Veda's Model (57:59) Closing Comments on Vaults and DeFi TVL — Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    1h 3m
  7. 23 JAN

    AI Breaking Software Economics, CLARITY Bill, & Debating BitGo’s IPO | Weekly Roundup

    This week, we discuss Claude and the ongoing AI acceleration, AI’s impact on VC and SaaS, and the latest draft of the CLARITY Bill. We also dig into BitGo’s upcoming IPO, Polygon’s latest acquisitions, the Farcaster Sale, Larry Fink’s WEF comments, and more. Enjoy! -- Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Rob: https://x.com/HadickM Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire:https://x.com/theempirepod    -- Coinbase crypto-backed loans, powered by Morpho, enable you to take out loans at competitive rates using crypto as collateral. Rates are typically 4% to 8%. Borrow up to $5M using BTC as collateral and up to $1M using ETH as collateral. Manage crypto-backed loans directly in the Coinbase app with ease. Learn more here:  https://www.coinbase.com/onchain/borrow/get-started?utm_campaign=0126_defi-borrow_blockworks_empire&marketId=0x9103c3b4e834476c9a62ea009ba2c884ee42e94e6e314a26f04d312434191836&utm_source=empire  -- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (02:55) Claude And The AI Acceleration (11:53) Leveraging Expertise, Competing Models & Company Structure (21:02) AI’s Impact On VC And SaaS (31:590 Ads (Coinbase) (32:44) Unpacking The CLARITY Bill (41:00) BitGo’s IPO (53:53) Polygon Acquisitions (01:00:47) Farcaster Sale & Decentralized Social (01:08:30) Larry Fink And Content Of The Week -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    1h 18m

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Empire features interviews with top crypto founders to get the real stories that aren’t shared elsewhere. Empire is your look behind the curtain of the crypto industry. We release two episodes per week: guest interviews on Monday and a weekly roundup on Friday.

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