Under the Canopy

On Outdoor Journal Radio's Under the Canopy podcast, former Minister of Natural Resources, Jerry Ouellette takes you along on the journey to see the places and meet the people that will help you find your outdoor passion and help you live a life close to nature and Under The Canopy.

  1. 2 DAYS AGO

    Episode 131: Inside Earthquakes - Science, Safety, And Canada’s Risk

    When the ground moves, stories surface—about how faults fail, why small quakes ripple across provinces, and how a few seconds of warning can change outcomes. We sit down with seismologist Marika from Earthquakes Canada to translate seismic science into everyday clarity and practical steps that keep people safer. We start with the core mechanics: stress, friction, and sudden slip along faults that launch P and S waves through the crust. Marika breaks down why the old, cold, and uniform rocks of eastern Canada carry shaking so efficiently, making a magnitude 3.7 detectable from Kingston to London. She separates magnitude from intensity—one energy, many experiences—and explains why modern hazard work uses moment magnitude instead of the original, region‑specific Richter scale. Expect a clear take on logarithmic scaling, those pesky decimals, and what really dictates the shaking you feel at home. From Cascadia’s subduction zone to frostquakes that pop on winter nights, we map natural and human‑influenced sources of shaking, including how fluid injection can induce small events by changing pore pressure on faults. Marika gives a rare look inside a seismologist’s day: monitoring nationwide stations, locating events by P and S arrivals, filtering “noise” from trains and mines, and feeding data into Canada’s seismic hazard maps. Those maps shape the National Building Code so bridges, hospitals, and homes match regional risk, whether you live in BC or along the Ottawa–Montreal corridor. We also cover Canada’s Earthquake Early Warning system—how dense sensors catch the first P wave and push alerts before damaging S waves arrive, buying tens of seconds for trains to brake and people to drop, cover, and hold on. Want to help? Submit a “Did You Feel It?” report after you notice shaking; thousands of citizen reports sharpen intensity maps and improve future planning. If you learned something new, share this conversation with a friend, subscribe for more under‑the‑canopy science, and leave a review to help others find the show.

    1h 3m
  2. 2 FEB

    Episode 130: Emus, Rheas, And The Farm Life

    A six-foot flightless bird doesn’t just change your pastures—it changes your business model. We sit down with an Ontario rancher who started with a simple idea in the early ’90s and built a resilient operation around emus and rheas, turning a niche into a livelihood with smart pivots, careful breeding, and products people actually want. From green, three-layer eggs prized by carvers to low-fat red meat and a surprisingly versatile oil, you’ll hear how every part of the bird can hold value if the process and markets line up. We walk through the fundamentals: why emus prefer long, narrow pens, how they handle cold, what they eat, and what it really takes to keep predators out. Then we open the ledger. Emu oil—naturally anti-inflammatory and rich in omegas—becomes pure oil, salves, soaps, and creams for arthritis, tendonitis, burns, eczema, and psoriasis. You’ll learn how raw fat becomes refined oil, why processing scale matters, and how a three-year shelf life shapes inventory. We compare emus to rheas—faster stress, lower chick survival, different laying windows—and break down pricing, from $250 emu chicks to $800 rhea chicks, plus why rising demand pushed the farm away from meat and toward breeding. Not everything fits the spreadsheet. Hides remain an untapped avenue without a local finisher, feathers sell best to crafters in small runs, and manure isn’t garden-friendly like alpaca pellets. Yet the model works because it’s grounded: steady farmer’s market sales, a clear website, and straight talk about margins, survival rates, and the patience required to make specialty agriculture sustainable. If you’ve ever wondered whether giant birds can support a modern small farm—or if emu oil can actually help sore joints—this story delivers useful answers without the hype. Listen now, subscribe for more field-tested stories from the outdoor world, and leave a review with your biggest question about raising emus or rheas.

    38 min
  3. 26 JAN

    Episode 129: Alpacas, Fiber, And Winter Woodstoves

    Wood heat hums, snowbanks rise, and the small rituals of winter living turn into hard-won wisdom: how to stretch a stack of deadwood, read a stove thermometer, and keep the creosote at bay. From there we pivot to what the cold teaches our bodies—aching wrists from repetitive work, the quiet power of a good adjustment, and the simple chemistry of vitamin D, hydration, and chaga for clearer mornings. Then the conversation opens into a warm, woolly world. We sit down with Donna, an experienced alpaca breeder from Campbellford, Ontario, to unpack how a small herd becomes a thriving fiber operation. She walks us through choosing bloodlines across Canada and the U.S., why Canadian winters grow longer staple lengths, and how hypoallergenic alpaca—softer than wool and similar to cashmere—keeps people warm without the itch. Annual shearing is a precision dance: eight minutes per animal, six to ten pounds of fleece, and a skirting table that separates blanket from seconds. Graded fiber finds its destiny—top grades spun into buttery yarns for scarves and hats, mid-grades into breathable, wicking socks, and coarser cuts into felted dryer balls, insoles, and rugged goods that last for seasons. Beyond the loom, Donna’s farm invites people into the process: in-pen hand feeds with curious alpacas, guided treks on private trails, and calming yoga and picnics under the trees. Even the manure earns its place—a low-nitrogen, non-burning fertilizer that behaves like peat, perfect for houseplants and garden beds without introducing weeds. It’s a full-circle model where land, animals, and community shape each other, proving sustainable fiber can be both luxurious and practical. If you’re chasing real warmth and durability for winter, or just want to meet the animals behind your favorite socks, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who lives in wool, and leave a review telling us which alpaca product you’d try first.

    42 min
  4. 19 JAN

    Episode 128: What Anchors Us When The Weather Turns And Life Shifts

    A bluebird thaw turned blizzard overnight, and that whiplash becomes a guide to living smarter in winter. We start at the wood pile—why ironwood carries the night, how to plan heat days ahead, and where all that ash can actually help your yard and icy trails. Then the road widens: a check-in from Alberta where plus-four feels like spring, crews gear up for 24-hour shifts repairing Calgary’s aging water mains, and confined space training gets real about oxygen, shoring, and staying sharp when the job is tight and cold. The conversation threads health through every scene. Night shift routines and vitamin D, a true story about an axe rebound and scalp cut that doubles as a field lesson, and a chaga tea testimonial from a 233-time blood donor who saw blood pressure stabilize. From the shop to the backwoods, preparation beats bravado. We carry that mindset into Red Deer’s hospital expansion—tower cranes, frozen ground, and a province booming as people chase affordable housing—and into energy talk that actually touches the ground: wind turbine realities, bird-safe blade speeds, and why hydrogen timelines hinge on infrastructure and buyers being ready, not hype. The final turn is the biggest: Garrett is engaged, planning a move back to Ontario, and expecting a baby. That news resets priorities and trip planning alike—choosing the Hearst route over the Soo when lake-effect snow threatens, timing a March drive for safer weather, juggling pets and family health. Through every turn, one truth holds: family first, conditions-aware, and community strong. Hit play for winter-smart strategies, jobsite safety you can use, and a reminder of what warmth really means when the wind picks up. If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review—it helps more people find their way under the canopy.

    54 min
  5. 12 JAN

    Episode 127: How Controlled Environments Are Rewriting Canada’s Food Map

    Winter doesn’t stop a ripe tomato anymore. We sit down with Richard Lee, Executive Director of the Ontario Greenhouse Vegetable Growers, to unpack how controlled environment agriculture is rewriting the rules on local food, energy use, and year-round supply. From Leamington’s vast glass acreage to the algorithms that decide when lights switch on, we trace the systems that keep cucumbers, peppers, and lettuce thriving when the thermometer says otherwise. Richard breaks down the economics and engineering: why energy and labor dominate costs, how double energy curtains and heat reclamation lower the load, and how light abatement keeps night skies dark while plants get what they need. We explore the limits of latitude—how yields can drop just an hour north—and why that pushes investment into supplemental lighting and smarter controls. Then we widen the lens to remote communities where a head of lettuce can travel by ice road. Vertical and container farms emerge as practical solutions, especially as new energy options become realistic, bringing fresh produce, skills, and food sovereignty closer to home. We also dig into crop diversification, from the rise of greenhouse lettuce to the promise and setbacks of strawberries. Precision agriculture takes center stage: closed-loop irrigation, substrate growing on rockwool or coco, and sensor networks that alert growers in real time. It’s a portrait of modern agriculture that blends sustainability with scale, aiming to replace imports with Ontario-grown food that’s consistent, clean, and close. Curious how this technology could serve your community—or your kitchen? Hit play, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who thinks fresh vegetables can’t be local in February. And if you enjoyed the show, leave a review to help more listeners find us.

    1h 8m
  6. 5 JAN

    Episode 126: What If Better Bread Isn’t About Gluten, But About Time

    Looking for a better loaf and a calmer life? We start with snow, dogs, and learning to heat a home on wood—choosing species, managing airflow, taming coals, and moving heat through a mid-century bungalow—then step into the bake room with Edmonton’s Bonjour Bakery owner, Yvan Chartrand, for a masterclass on real bread. Yvan’s journey runs from Montreal to rural Hokkaido and back to the prairies, carrying lessons on heritage grains, stone milling, and the slow magic of fermentation. Yvan breaks down what sourdough truly means in Canada—no shortcuts, no vinegar masquerading as time—just flour, water, and a 45‑year‑old starter nurtured daily. We unpack gluten in plain language, why rye yields dense, slice-thin loaves, and how real pumpernickel bakes for hours to avoid a burnt crust and raw core. He contrasts one-hour industrial processes full of conditioners and preservatives with three-day fermentation that naturally preserves, deepens flavour, and can support a lower glycemic response. We also demystify “whole wheat” labeling, explore ancient vs heritage vs modern wheats, and show how in-house stone milling preserves aroma and nutrition. If you bake at home, you’ll love Yvan’s “three secrets” of bread—temperature, temperature, and temperature—and how season, flour storage, water temp, and mixer friction change everything from dough development to crumb. Along the way, we keep returning to a shared theme: patience and process matter. Whether you’re tending a fire, sled-hauling wood with the dogs, or feeding a starter, the reward is real—clean heat, clean bread, and a clearer head. Subscribe for more conversations that connect outdoor craft, food, and well-being. If this sparks an idea—or a craving—share the episode, leave a review, and tell us your go-to loaf so we can bake up more of what you love.

    1h 28m
  7. 29/12/2025

    Episode 125: Inside The World Of Tea

    A cup of tea can tell you where it grew, how it was harvested, and even what the weather felt like—and John has spent 43 years learning that language. From Tetley’s legendary training to global trading desks and UN projects, he walks us through the real mechanics of quality: why the top two leaves and a bud matter, how insects trigger flavor by provoking plant defenses, and how high-altitude stress in places like Sri Lanka and Darjeeling creates brighter, more layered cups. We dig into the details that change your daily brew. John explains why soil acidity, drainage, and microflora drive healthy roots, how intercropping legumes boosts nitrogen without burn, and why old bushes clinging to rock can taste astonishingly pure. We challenge the myth that teabags are “bad tea,” unpacking CTC vs orthodox processing, oxidation, and particle size. Then we tackle the big headline: microplastics in teabags. What materials are actually used today? How do PLA and modern paper mills change the equation? The answer is more nuanced—and much less scary—than the viral posts suggest. Beyond the science, we talk value and ethics. John shares his work in Pakistan, where massive tea imports strain foreign currency. By planting tea on marginal slopes and keeping packaging and distribution closer to farms, communities can keep more margin at origin. We finish with practical takeaways: a sleep-friendly blend ratio (valerian, chamomile, spearmint) that tastes good, not just “good for you,” and circulatory-support pairings like rooibos with hibiscus that also play nicely with chaga. If you care about flavor, truth over hype, and supporting growers while you sip, you’ll find plenty to bring to your next kettle boil. Enjoyed this conversation? Follow the show, share it with a tea-loving friend, and leave a quick review to help more listeners discover us.

    1h 18m
  8. 22/12/2025

    Episode 124: Holiday Houseplants Made Easy

    Ever wonder why your poinsettia crashes by New Year’s while your neighbour’s looks flawless into January? We sit down with greenhouse manager Adrian Lee to demystify holiday plants and real Christmas trees with clear, field-tested advice you can use today. From watering routines that actually work to placement tips that prevent stress and leaf drop, this is a practical guide to keeping festive greens alive and beautiful. Adrian breaks down the quirks of classic Christmas plants: how poinsettias colour up after a darker rest period and why they hate soggy foil sleeves; the simple feeding schedule that coaxes Christmas cactus into reliable blooms; and the difference between moisture lovers like frosty fern and rot-prone bulbs like cyclamen. We also explore small but mighty evergreens such as lemon cypress, plus rosemary and lavender trimmed into miniature trees for scent, cooking, and calmer sleep. Looking to build a mixed planter? Learn how to water each species on its own terms without drowning the rest. If a real tree anchors your season, you’ll get a straightforward care playbook: make a fresh base cut, keep the stand topped up, consider cooler room temps, and mist to slow needle loss. We even talk about oxygenating water and whether brown sugar does anything meaningful. For gardeners dreaming ahead, Adrian explains compact ornamentals for small lots, grafted apple trees with staggered ripening, and pollination basics. We wrap with kitchen garden tips like pruning bay to encourage branching and sustainable leaf harvests.

    57 min

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On Outdoor Journal Radio's Under the Canopy podcast, former Minister of Natural Resources, Jerry Ouellette takes you along on the journey to see the places and meet the people that will help you find your outdoor passion and help you live a life close to nature and Under The Canopy.

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