Unlearning Autism

Christine Doyle

Unlearning Autism — real stories, gentle conversations, and a fresh perspective on autism, especially for those of us who found out later in life. Hosted by Christine Doyle, Autistic mentor & late-identified Autistic woman. Listen in and start unlearning. Hosted on Spotify. See https://www.christinedoyle.ie/podcast/ for more information.

  1. Missing the Mark: School Distress & Autistic Experience with Eliza Fricker

    15 APR

    Missing the Mark: School Distress & Autistic Experience with Eliza Fricker

    In this episode of Unlearning Autism, I sit down with Eliza Fricker — author, illustrator, advocate, and one of the most respected voices in conversations around Autistic children, PDA, education, and parenting outside the traditional behaviour model. Eliza is the author of A Different Kind of Parenting, the Sunday Times bestselling Can’t Not Won’t, the autobiographical Thumbsucker, and her latest book Could Try Harder, out May 2026. Together, we explore what happens when children are misunderstood by systems built around compliance, performance, and narrow ideas of success. We talk about parenting children whose needs don’t fit the mainstream mould, the emotional cost of being repeatedly “missed,” and why so many families are forced to become advocates simply to protect their children. This is a rich, honest, deeply human conversation about education, identity, compassion, and the courage it takes to do things differently. This conversation touches on:• PDA and why traditional behaviour approaches can cause harm• the school system and children who are misunderstood within it• parenting beyond reward-and-punishment models• shame, blame, and the pressure placed on families• the emotional reality of advocacy for your child• how creativity and humour can tell hard truths• why different children need different ways of being supported• reimagining success, learning, and belonging Eliza speaks with warmth, clarity, and lived wisdom about the realities many families know intimately but rarely hear reflected in mainstream conversations. Don’t forget to subscribe to Unlearning Autism to hear more guest conversations and my shorter My Autistic Musings episodes each week. If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might benefit from hearing it. About Eliza Eliza Fricker is an author, illustrator, and advocate working in the areas of PDA, Autistic experience, parenting, and education. She is the author of A Different Kind of Parenting, the Sunday Times bestseller Can’t Not Won’t, Thumbsucker, and Could Try Harder. Through her books, talks, webinars, consultations, and the much-loved Missing the Mark illustrations, Eliza has helped countless parents and educators better understand children whose needs are often misunderstood. Her work invites a more compassionate, informed, and human way of supporting children and families. Books: Could Try Harder is available for pre-order and is out in May 2026. Website: https://www.missingthemark.co.uk/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elizafricker_missingthemark 🎧 Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts / christinedoyle.ie🔗 Full transcript for this episode is available on Spotify Podcasts You can connect with Christine on Instagram: @christinedoyle.ieVisit christinedoyle.ie for webinars, speaking work, resources, and the Wild Women Community.

    1hr 18min
  2. Not Seeing Yourself: Late-Identification, Masking & Neuroaffirmative Practice with Katie Kerley

    1 APR

    Not Seeing Yourself: Late-Identification, Masking & Neuroaffirmative Practice with Katie Kerley

    You can be trained to recognise neurodivergence in others… and still miss it in yourself. In this episode of Unlearning Autism, I’m joined by occupational therapist Katie Kerley to explore late identification, masking, and what it means to finally see yourself clearly. Katie shares her journey to identifying as Autistic, ADHD and dyspraxic — including the complexity of “coming out,” the fear of being a fraud, and the shift toward authenticity in both life and clinical work. We talk about the hidden cost of masking, why so many women don’t recognise themselves in traditional narratives, and what truly makes practice neuroaffirmative — not just positive, but real. This is a conversation about identity, unlearning, and the quiet power of being understood — sometimes for the first time. Don’t forget to subscribe to Unlearning Autism to hear more guest conversations and my shorter My Autistic Musings episodes each week. If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might also benefit from hearing it. About Katie Katie Kerley is an occupational therapist and clinical director of Horizons Therapy Services in Dundalk. Katie is multiply neurodivergent (Autistic, ADHD and Dyspraxic) and has a strong interest in supporting neurodivergent people to be their truest and most authentic selves. Katie specialises in sensory processing and how it affects meaningful occupation. Katie provides one-to-one therapy to both children and adults, as well as OT assessments, and enjoys taking a person-centred, lived-experience and rights-based approach to each individual. Katie loves being part of continual professional development, both as a learner and as a teacher/ mentor. She provides webinars with a variety of organisations, including AUsome Training. Katie is passionate about being neuro-affirmative and is immersed in the neurodivergent community in Ireland, and is a member of the Therapist Neurodiversity Collective. Instagram:⁠https://www.instagram.com/horizonstherapyservices/ Website: ⁠https://www.horizonstherapy.ie/ 🎧 Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts / christinedoyle.ie 🔗 Full transcript for this episode is available on Spotify Podcasts You can connect with Christine on Instagram ⁠https://www.instagram.com/christinedoyle.ie/ ⁠ Visit ⁠www.christinedoyle.ie⁠ for information on Christine’s webinars, speaking work, and the Wild Women Community.

    1hr 18min
  3. Rewriting the Rules of Motherhood with Laura Guckian

    18 MAR

    Rewriting the Rules of Motherhood with Laura Guckian

    In this episode of Unlearning Autism, I sit down with Laura Guckian — host of the award-winning MomFessions podcast and one of the UK and Ireland’s most recognised voices in maternal mental health and neurodivergent motherhood. Laura shares her deeply personal journey from severe maternal mental health challenges, including a psychiatric hospital stay, to becoming a coach, advocate, and storyteller supporting mothers across the world. Together we explore what happens when the idealised cultural story of motherhood doesn’t match reality, and why many women only begin to recognise their neurodivergence after becoming mothers themselves. I love this episode. It is unmasked, beautiful, passionate Autistic conversation. I am so proud of this and it is in here, in this vulnerable space that I share something I have never spoken about. This conversation touches on: • the intersection of autism, ADHD and motherhood• why the wellbeing industry often fails neurodivergent mothers• maternal mental health and the loneliness many women experience• how motherhood can expose masking and nervous system overwhelm• why late identification can radically change how we parent• rewriting the rules of motherhood on our own terms Laura speaks with honesty, warmth and courage about her experience and the powerful work she now does supporting mothers to understand themselves more deeply. Don’t forget to subscribe to Unlearning Autism to hear more guest conversations and my shorter My Autistic Musings episodes each week. If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might also benefit from hearing it. About LauraLaura Guckian is a motherhood coach, speaker and advocate specialising in maternal mental health and neurodivergent motherhood. She is the host of the award-winning MomFessions podcast, which was recently named Best British Parenting Podcast 2025. Following her own experience of severe maternal mental health challenges after becoming a mother, Laura has become a powerful voice in conversations about the realities of motherhood that are rarely spoken about openly. Through her coaching, podcast and advocacy, she supports mothers around the world to better understand their mental health, identity and nervous system. Laura’s work focuses on rewriting the rules of motherhood — helping women move beyond shame and unrealistic expectations to build lives and families that work for them. Podcast: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/mindmommycoaching/ Website:https://mindmommycoaching.com/ 🎧 Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts / christinedoyle.ie 🔗 Full transcript for this episode is available on Spotify Podcasts You can connect with Christine on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/christinedoyle.ie/ Visit www.christinedoyle.ie for information on Christine’s webinars, speaking work, and the Wild Women Community.

    57 min
  4. My Autistic Musings ... On Systemising

    11 MAR

    My Autistic Musings ... On Systemising

    In this episode of My Autistic Musings, I reflect on systemising — a tendency many Autistic people, particularly late-identified Autistic women, recognise in themselves. Systemising can show up in subtle everyday ways, bringing calm, focus and satisfaction through organising ideas, environments or information. Recently, I decided it was time to finally organise my nutrition. What followed was several hours of cutting, pasting, sorting and carefully arranging breakfast recipes from old downloads, courses, meal plans and recipe books. Pages were organised, photocopied, filed neatly into folders… and for a moment, everything felt beautifully in order. Six months later, I’m still eating the same breakfast I always do. But this musing isn’t really about meal planning. It’s about the quiet joy many Autistic people find in systemising — the sense of calm and clarity that comes from creating order, even when the system itself never quite gets used. As a late-identified Autistic woman, I’ve come to recognise how systemising shows up in everyday ways: organising the home, planning outfits, structuring routines, or bringing order to information. In the moment it brings a sense of calm and wellbeing — and perhaps that’s reason enough. If you recognise this tendency in yourself, this gentle reflection on the Autistic love of systems, patterns and organisation might resonate. Many thanks as always to Abigail Ward for producing the podcast and to Doerte Meyer for composing and performing my podcast jingle.

    6 min

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Unlearning Autism — real stories, gentle conversations, and a fresh perspective on autism, especially for those of us who found out later in life. Hosted by Christine Doyle, Autistic mentor & late-identified Autistic woman. Listen in and start unlearning. Hosted on Spotify. See https://www.christinedoyle.ie/podcast/ for more information.

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