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    “Zelensky, Ukraine & Intelligence” – with Simon Shuster

    “Zelensky, Ukraine & Intelligence” – with Simon Shuster

    Summary
    Simon Shuster (X, Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Ukraine. Simon is a senior correspondent at TIME. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    Zelenskyy’s career pre-Presidency

    Reactions to the 2022 Russian invasion

    Ukrainian public opinion of Zelenskyy

    Zelenskyy’s relationship with Ukrainian intelligence 

    Reflections

    Contagious courage 

    Leadership styles, techniques, and unique skills

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “In researching [Zelenskyy’s] transformations as a person from comedian to politician to wartime leader, I also thought a lot about what qualities have remained consistent in him. And one of them for sure is this kind of, “go get ‘em” confidence … He just has this abiding confidence in his own ability to think on his feet, to not lose his balance, to just go into a new and unfamiliar space or a set of challenges and wing it, so to say.” – Simon Schuster 

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource* 

    The Showman : Inside the Invasion That Shook the World and Made a Leader of Volodymyr Zelensky, Simon Shuster (William Morrow, 2024)
    *SpyCasts*


    David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023) 


    Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East vs. West with Calder Walton (2023)


    Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)


    Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023)

    *Beginner Resources*


    What to know about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, I. Pereira & P. Reevell, ABC News (2022) [Short article]


    A Brief History of Modern Ukraine, BBC, YouTube (2022) [3 min. video]


    Ukraine conflict: Simple visual guide to the Russian invasion, BBC (2022) [Short article]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    Our Enemies Will Vanish: The Russian Invasion and Ukraine's War of Independence, Y. Trofimov (Penguin Press, 2024) 


    Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, D. Petraeus & A. Roberts (Harper, 2023) 


    The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine, S. Plokhy (Basic Books, 2021)

    Primary Sources 


    All Intelligence Agencies of Our Partners are Informed of the Current Threats and Prospects – Address by the President (2024)


    Freedom must always prevail when challenged – speech by the President of Ukraine at the National Defense University of the United States (2023)


    Address by the President: Ukrainians are a symbol of invincibility (2022)


    Address by the President to Ukrainians at the end of the first day of Russia's attacks (2022) 


    Constitution of Ukraine (1996)


    Act of Declaration of the Independence of Ukraine (1991)


    Act of Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood (1941)


    Ukrainian Proclamation of Independence (1917)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    As Simon mentioned in this episode, President Zelenskyy won the Ukrainian version of one of Erin’s favorite shows, Dancing With The Stars, in 2006. 

    Watch some of his winning dances with partner Olena Shoptenko here. 


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    • 1 hr 10 min
    “The Real Ian Fleming” with Nicholas Shakespeare

    “The Real Ian Fleming” with Nicholas Shakespeare

    Summary
    Nicholas Shakespeare (X; Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the life and legacy of Ian Fleming. Nicholas is an award-winning novelist and biographer.  

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    Fleming’s family and upbringing

    Debunking misconceptions about Fleming’s character

    Fleming’s career in intelligence

    British Naval Intelligence operations during WWII

    Reflections

    Life influencing literature

    The lasting impact of storytelling

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “Whatever the ingredients of Bond – As a kind of, both a hero of modernization, but also as a symbol of retrospective power – The films have allowed this protean creature to exist in the future, in the present, and so that almost all over the world, the words, the names “Bond, James Bond” will ignite a smile.” – Nicholas Shakespeare.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource*

    Ian Fleming: The Complete Man, Nicholas Shakespeare (Harper, 2024)
    *SpyCasts*


    Bond After Fleming, the Continuation of an Icon with Mark Edlitz (2024)


    The James Bond Collector with Mike VanBlaricum (2024)


    70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 1 of 2 (2023)


    70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 2 of 2 (2023)

    *Beginner Resources*


    Ian Fleming – Life Story, Short Biographies, YouTube (2023) [8 min. video]


    List of Books by Ian Fleming, Barnes and Noble (n.d.) [List of literary works]


    Ian Fleming Life Timeline, Ian Fleming Publications (n.d.) [Timeline]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    Ian Fleming’s War: The Inspiration for 007, M. Simmons (Rare Bird Books, 2021)


    The Man with the Golden Typewriter: Ian Fleming's James Bond Letters, ed. F. Fleming (Bloomsbury, 2016) 


    The Life of Ian Fleming, J. Pearson (Jonathan Cape, 1966)

    Primary Sources 


    Diana Rigg Obituary (2020)


    Ian Fleming about James Bond and himself (1964)


    Our Spy-Boss Who Loved Bond by Allen Dulles (1964)


    Allen Dulles and Ian Fleming (1964)


    Operation “Mincemeat” Brief (1943)


    Postagram Concerning Operation Mincemeat (1943)


    Valentine Fleming Eulogy by Winston Churchill (1917) 

    *Wildcard Resource*


    Spymaker: The Secret Life of Ian Fleming (1990)

    A TV movie that stars Jason Connery as Ian Fleming. Jason Connery is the son of Sean Connery – the first actor to portray James Bond in film.


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    • 1 hr 26 min
    “Codebreaking and Codemaking Down Under” – with John Blaxland and Clare Birgin

    “Codebreaking and Codemaking Down Under” – with John Blaxland and Clare Birgin

    Summary
    John Blaxland (X, LinkedIn) and Clare Birgin (Wikipedia, LinkedIn) join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss Australian codebreaking. John and Clare are coauthors of the new book Revealing Secrets. 
    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    The importance of SIGINT

    Codebreaking in Australian intelligence

    Australia’s role in WWII and the Cold War

    The advent and evolution of cyber 

    Reflections

    Strategic defense and offense 

    The power, and danger, of communication

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    "What I've noticed with the Australians, and I think it's similar in the other the other Five Eyes countries, these people tend to be quite patriotic to do [Signals Intelligence]. They want to, they love their country, and it also seems to preserve very good qualities.” -Clare Birgin.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource* 

    Revealing Secrets: An unofficial history of Australian Signals intelligence and the advent of cyber, Clare Birgin and John Blaxland (University of New South Wales Press, 2023) 
    *SpyCasts*


    I Helped Solve the Final Zodiac Killer Cipher with David Oranchak (2024)


    Australian National Day Special: Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland (2024)


    My Father the Navajo Code-Talker with Laura Tohe (2023) 


    CYBER AUGUST: “So, You Want to Be a Codebreaker?” with Elonka Dunin and Klaus Schmeh (2021) 

    *Beginner Resources*


    Australia's Involvement in WWII, Australian Broadcasting Service, YouTube (2020) [4 min. video]


    A short history of cyber espionage, D. O’Brien, Medium (2017) [Short article]


    Signals Intelligence (SINGINT) Overview, National Security Agency (n.d.) [Short article]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Primary Sources 


    WMD Report (2005) 


    The ANZUS Treaty (1951)


    Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945)


    The Atlantic Charter (1941)


    The Zimmerman Telegram (1917)


    Oral History by Ruby Boye Jones (n.d.)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    Here’s a challenge – For their 75th Anniversary in 2022, the Australian Signals Directorate released a limited edition coin with multiple layers of code to crack on both sides. 

    Think you can solve it? Check out the link above and test your code-cracking skills. 


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    • 1 hr 23 min
    “James Foley: Journalist, ISIS Hostage, Son” – with His Mother Diane Foley

    “James Foley: Journalist, ISIS Hostage, Son” – with His Mother Diane Foley

    Summary
    Diane Foley (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the legacy of her son, James Foley. James was held hostage and murdered by ISIS in 2014. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    The enduring legacy of James’ murder

    James’ time in captivity in Libya 

    A mother’s experience communicating with her son’s captors

    How hostage recovery efforts have evolved since 2014

    Reflections

    Grief turned into action

    Forgiveness, empathy, and resilience 

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “[Jim] could have been teaching or doing so many things, writing … but he just felt those stories were essential. And it really made me realize and recognize the courage of our current journalists going into Ukraine or Gaza. We wouldn't have any idea what's happening in that part of the world without those folks who dare to be there and dare to find ways to tell that story and bring it back to us.” – Diane Foley.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource*

    American Mother, Colum McCann and Diane Foley (Etruscan Press, 2024)
    *SpyCasts*


    CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)


    Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)


    My Life Looking at Spies & the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022) 


    ISIS Leader al-Mawla: Caliph. Scholar. Canary. Snitch. with Daniel Milton, West Point CTC Director (Part 1 of 2) (2022)


    ISIS Leader al-Mawla: Caliph. Scholar. Canary. Snitch. with Daniel Milton, West Point CTC Director (Part 2 of 2) (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*


    Syria: Seven Years of War Explained, BBC News, YouTube (2018) [5 min. video]


    FACT SHEET: U.S. Government Hostage Policy, Office of the Press Secretary (2015) [Short brief]


    Jim’s Story, James W. Foley Legacy Foundation (n.d.) [Background on James Foley]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    The Isis Hostage, P. Damsgard (Pegasus Books, 2017)


    Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS, J. Warrick (Anchor, 2016)


    Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It, C. Voss & T. Raz (Harper Business, 2016)

    Primary Sources 


    A Proclamation on U.S. Hostage and Wrongful Detainee Day (2024)


    Executive Order on Bolstering Efforts to Bring Hostages and Wrongfully Detained United States Nationals Home (2022) 


    FBI Hostage Rescue Team Policy Guide (2019) 


    Report on U.S. Hostage Policy (2015)


    Murder of James Foley Press Statement (2014)


    Hostage Negotiation: A Matter of Life and Death (1983) 


    Current Status of the Hostage Crisis and the Implications of US Policy Options (1980) 

    *Wildcard Resource*

    “Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree” by Tony Orlando and Dawn (1973)

    This song was a #1 hit when it was originally released in 1973. Six years later, the song resurged and gained even more popularity during the Iranian Hostage Crisis. The song became an unofficial hostage recovery anthem, as the lyrics poignantly hint to welcoming a loved one home from captivity. 


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    • 1 hr 18 min
    “Interstellar Intelligence” – with Harvard Astrophysicist Avi Loeb

    “Interstellar Intelligence” – with Harvard Astrophysicist Avi Loeb

    Summary
    Avi Loeb (Harvard Biography, Wikipedia) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence in outer space. He is a Professor in the Department of Astronomy at Harvard University. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    The Galileo Project & its goals

    The Intelligence Community and Outer Space

    Government positions on the existence of extraterrestrial life

    Connections between intelligence and astrophysics

    Reflections

    The enormity of our universe

    Evidence over opinion or speculation

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “And my hope is that realizing that we have a smart neighbor that we can learn from would convince us to change our priorities from fighting over territories on this small piece of rock, trying to kill each other, to something more noble, just looking up and having bigger aspirations because there is so much more real estate out there than you find here on Earth.” – Avi Loeb.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource*

    Interstellar: The Search for Extraterrestrial Life and Our Future in the Stars, Avi Loeb (Mariner Books, 2023) 
    *SpyCasts*


    I Helped Solve the Final Zodiac Killer Cipher with David Oranchak (2024)


    The 18-Year-Old Soviet Spy on the Manhattan Project: Ted Hall with Director Steve James (2023)


    Espionage and the Metaverse with Cathy Hackl (2023)


    The Information Battlespace – Foreign Denial and Deception with Bill Parquette (2023)

    *Beginner Resources*


    What is Astrophysics? A. Belter, Space (2022) [Short article]


    What You Need to Know About Astrobiology - The Search for Life in the Universe! NASA, YouTube (2020) [2 min. video] 


    Glossary of astronomical terms, International Comet Quarterly (n.d.) [Glossary]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    In Plain Sight: An Investigation into UFOs and Impossible Science, R. Coulthart (HarperCollins, 2023) 


    Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth, A. Loeb (Mariner Books, 2022)


    Astrophysics for People in a Hurry, N. deGrasse Tyson (W. W. Norton & Company, 2017) 

    Primary Sources 


    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (2024) 


    Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (2021)


    UFO Files: The Untold Story (1979) 


    Space tests branded as propaganda (1964)


    People Are Talking About … Little Green Men (1964)


    Unidentified Flying Objects: Writer Says They’re a Dangerous Problem (1954) 

    *Wildcard Resource*

    This week, our recommended music accompaniment to this episode is, of course, The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars by David Bowie.

    This 1972 album, a classic example of the Glam Rock and early Punk era, includes the single “Starman,” which Andrew mentions in this episode. 


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    • 1 hr 7 min
    “Navigating a Career in Counterterrorism as a Muslim – with Angie Gad”

    “Navigating a Career in Counterterrorism as a Muslim – with Angie Gad”

    Summary
    Angie Gad (LinkedIn, Website) joined Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss her career in intelligence analysis. Angie is a first-generation Egyptian-American. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    The role of state fusion centers to national intelligence

    How counterterrorism analysis evolved after 9/11

    The connections between ISIS and Far Right Extremists

    The mental health implications of counterterrorism 

    Reflections

    The importance of diversity of thought and experience

    Personal identity in professional life

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “I think that's what drives me as an analyst. I love to understand why extremists do what they do, what leads them, what are the motivators and the driving force behind their actions and their thoughts and their radicalization.” – Angie Gad.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *SpyCasts*


    Telling Americans About China (and Intelligence) with Sara Castro (2024)


    The Eye of Horus: Egyptian Intelligence with Dina Rezk (2023)


    Leader, Lecturer, Analyzer, Nerd with Jorhena Thomas (2023)


    The Counterterrorism and Counter WMD Strategist with Dexter Ingram (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*


    What Is Counterterrorism? National Museum of American Diplomacy, YouTube (2023) [5 min. video]


    What is Intelligence Analysis and Why is It So Important? National American University (2020) [Short article]


    Role of Fusion Centers, U.S. Department of Homeland Security (n.d.) [Short brief] 

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    Compassionate Counterterrorism: The Power of Inclusion In Fighting Fundamentalism, L. Al Olaimy (Berrett-Koehler Publishers, 2019) 


    Black Flags: Rise of ISIS, J. Warrick (Doubleday, 2015)


    Reducing Uncertainty: Intelligence Analysis & National Security, T. Fingar (SUP, 2011)

    Primary Sources 


    United States of America v. Ammon BUNDY, Jon RITZHEIMER, Joseph O'SHAUGHNESSY, Ryan PAYNE, Ryan BUNDY, Brian CAVALIER, Shawna COX, Peter SANTILLI (2016)


    National Criminal Intelligence Sharing Plan (2013) 


    Progress Made and Work Remaining in Implementing Homeland Security Missions 10 Years after 9/11 (2011)


    Empowering Local Partners to Prevent Violent Extremism in the United States (2011) 


    9/11 Commission Report (2004) 


    Targets of Suspicion: The Impact of Post-9/11 Policies on Muslims, Arabs and South Asians in the United States (2004)


    American Psyche Reeling From Terror Attacks (2001)

    *Wildcard Resource*


    The Rosetta Stone was originally found in the Nile Delta of Egypt in 1799. The priceless piece of human linguistic history has been on display at the British Museum since 1802. 

    The question of the potential repatriation of the Rosetta Stone back to Egypt is one of the most highly discussed topics in the museum field today. Read more about the Egyptian campaign to reclaim their ancient artifacts here.  


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    • 1 hr 6 min

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