Make Water Work Podcast

Megan Glover & Isaac Pellerin

Make Water Work is a podcast dedicated to the people shaping the future of our most precious resource.

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    Catalyst Collab: Bernard J. Armada, Ph.D | Make Water Work 043

    Most professionals operate at 50 to 70 percent of their communication capacity, and they don't even know it. In this episode of the Make Water Work Catalyst Collab, Isaac Pellerin and Chelsea Boozer (Executive Director, Rogue Water Lab) sit down with Dr. Bernard Armada, Associate Professor of Communication Studies at the University of St. Thomas, to unpack why improv, storytelling, and vulnerability might do more for public trust than any fact sheet ever could. Bernie guided a session at Catalyst 2025 in Milwaukee that's still one of the most talked-about moments from the event, and he's back to explain the theory behind the experience. In this episode, we cover: • Why most communicators only use a fraction of their full range, from facial expression to language choice, and what "unlocking" the rest looks like • What happened when 150 water professionals were asked to make goofy faces at Milwaukee City Hall, and why it worked • How professional jargon quietly mutes the parts of communication that actually build trust • The research behind how public memory gets shaped, whose stories get featured, and whose get left out • Why utilities lose the narrative when a single water main break outweighs decades of quiet, reliable service • How Bernie uses humor, listening, and a "dinner party" mindset to keep any room engaged • Why authenticity and vulnerability are the one thing AI-generated content can't replace • A first-hand account of Catalyst 2025 in Milwaukee, and what's ahead for Catalyst San Diego, August 31–September 3, 2026 If you work in water communications, public engagement, or utility leadership, this conversation will change how you think about the next room you have to win over. Connect with Bernard Armada: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernard-armada-91a8a07/ Learn more about Catalyst 2026: catalysth2o.org Like, subscribe, and drop a comment: what's your water story? #MakeWaterWork #WaterCommunications #Catalyst2026 #PublicTrust #WaterIndustry #Improv #StrategicCommunications

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  2. 6 aug.

    Catalyst Collab: Sarah Bucci | Make Water Work 042

    Water is the environmental issue Americans care about most, so why does it still struggle to break through the news cycle? In this episode of the Make Water Work / Catalyst Collab, Isaac Pellerin and Chelsea Boozer (Executive Director, Rogue Water Lab) sit down with Sarah Bucci, Director of Strategic Communications at The Water Hub, to unpack why water coverage gets stuck in silos, jargon, and crisis-only headlines, and what it actually takes to tell a story that sticks. In this episode, we cover: • Why public apathy isn't the problem, water consistently polls as the environmental issue people care about most • How siloed categories (drinking water, stormwater, wastewater) disconnect from how people actually experience water • Findings from the Water Hub's 2025 media scan, including a 25% drop in climate-change mentions in water supply coverage • Why trust and relationships are a core communications function, not a soft add-on • Behind the scenes of the Water Hub's Water Infrastructure campaign, illustrations, animation, and influencer partnerships that turned funding announcements into a bigger story • Why data center water use is opening unexpected doors for public conversation • A first-hand account of Catalyst 2025 in Milwaukee, and what's ahead for Catalyst San Diego, August 31–September 3, 2026 If you work in water communications, utility affairs, or public engagement, this conversation will change how you think about the stories you're not telling yet. Connect with Sarah Bucci: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-bucci-15146820/ Learn more about the Water Hub: waterhub.org Learn more about Catalyst 2026: catalysth2o.org Like, subscribe, and drop a comment: what's your water story? #MakeWaterWork #WaterCommunications #Catalyst2026 #WaterHub #PublicTrust #WaterIndustry #StrategicCommunications

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  3. 30 juli

    Catalyst Collab: George Schuler | Make Water Work 041

    Most water networks feel like a tight-knit community. The data says otherwise. In this episode of the Make Water Work Catalyst Collab, host Isaac Pellerin sits down with George Schuler — co-founder of Connecting for Change, systems strategist, and Catalyst 2026 guide — to explore what's actually happening inside the water sector's most critical relationships, networks, and institutions. George has spent nearly three decades mapping how influence, trust, and coordination move through complex systems. What he's found should change how every water professional thinks about collaboration.   In this episode: • Why the formal structure and the lived structure of most water organizations have quietly drifted apart — and what that gap costs us • How George built a board game with The Nature Conservancy to force the conversations that data alone could never start • What a network analysis of the 2023 UN Water Conference revealed about how fragile the global water network actually is • The institutional incentives that quietly prevent nonprofits, utilities, and funders from truly collaborating — even when they want to • Why "relational infrastructure" is the missing investment in the water sector • The Delaware River Basin story: what happens when the people who hold the trust relationships retire • How Gmail's early growth is a blueprint for building bridges in the water movement   Attend Catalyst 2026 — San Diego, August 31–September 3 Reserve your seat at catalysth2o.org George is one of the guides at Catalyst, the immersive experience for water communicators hosted by Rogue Water Lab.   Connect with George Schuler: Website: georgeschuler.me LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/georgeschuler   Connect with Make Water Work: Subscribe, leave a review, and follow along for new episodes in the Catalyst Collab series every week leading up to the conference.   #MakeWaterWork #CatalystCollab #WaterSector #WaterCommunication #NetworkAnalysis #PublicTrust #Catalyst2026 #WaterLeadership #ConnectingForChange #WaterInfrastructure #SystemsThinking

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  4. 16 juli

    Catalyst Collab: Chelsea Boozer & Greg Wukasch | Make Water Work 039

    Most water conferences are built to inform. Catalyst was built to make you feel something. In this first episode of the Catalyst Collab, a new mini-series exploring what makes water communication work, host Isaac Pellerin sits down with Chelsea Boozer (Executive Director, Rogue Water Lab) and Greg Wukasch (External Affairs Manager, San Antonio Water System) to unpack the experience design behind Catalyst, the immersive event reshaping how the water sector approaches public trust. In this episode, we cover: What Catalyst actually is, and why "content and context" matters as much as the material itself The four pillars of public trust: transparency, relationships, showing up, and earning advocates • Why strategic communication deserves to be treated as an asset, just like a pump or lift station • The "soul moment" of Catalyst, and why vulnerability is part of the curriculum • What to expect at Catalyst San Diego, August 31–September 3, 2026 • Why sponsors and attendees alike walk away calling it a movement, not a conference If you work in water communications, government affairs, or utility leadership, this conversation will change how you think about your next event, and maybe your next community meeting too. 👍 Like this episode if it gave you a new way to think about communication as a craft 🔔 Subscribe so you never miss an episode of Make Water Work 💬 Drop a comment: what's one moment where a communication strategy built (or broke) trust with your community? Learn more about Catalyst and register: https://catalysth2o.org Connect with our guests: Chelsea Boozer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelsea-boozer/ Greg Wukasch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-wukasch-b9739623/ Connect with Isaac Pellerin and 120Water: https://www.linkedin.com/company/120water #MakeWaterWork #WaterIndustry #WaterCommunications #PublicTrust #Catalyst #WaterUtilities #120Water #WaterLeadership

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  5. 9 juli

    Travis Kennedy: Trust, AI, and Telling Water’s Story | Make Water Work 038

    The water sector is one of the most operationally resilient industries on the planet. Systems delivering clean water 24/7 under aging infrastructure, workforce shortages, and increasing regulatory pressure — and for the most part, they work. So why doesn't anyone know that? Travis Kennedy has had a front-row seat to this industry for over 20 years — not as an operator or regulator, but as Chief Industry Officer, Water & Environmental Markets @ WATER ONLINE, the water and wastewater industry's go-to digital media platform reaching more than one million unique visitors annually. He's interviewed hundreds of engineers, operators, regulators, and solution providers. In this conversation, Isaac flips the mic. What we cover: • How Travis found his way into water in 2003 — and why he's never left • What Water Online was talking about in 1995 vs. today (and what's actually changed) • Why AI won't replace the field workforce — and the auto mechanic analogy that explains it perfectly • The three-stage buyer's journey that every water solution provider needs to understand • Why "doing the work well" is no longer enough on its own — and what has to come with it • Communication, trust, and why those two things are the foundation of everything in this market Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-k-0424768/ Water Online: wateronline.com The Water Online Show: wateronline.com/solution/water-talk-a-water-online-podcast

    Travis Kennedy: Trust, AI, and Telling Water’s Story | Make Water Work 038
  6. 12 juni

    Data Centers Are Coming. Is Water Ready? | Make Water Work 037

    One data center operator hired over 100 people just to solve their water problem. Another operator of equal size hired two. That gap tells you everything about where this industry is right now. Data centers are the hottest topic in water. And over the past several months, we've collected five perspectives from guests who are thinking about this differently — from community planners to state regulators to investors to infrastructure economists. In this special compilation episode, host Isaac Pellerin brings those voices together for the first time. Here's what's covered: • Why water reuse is one of the most practical responses to data center growth — and why climate makes it more urgent • How to design the stakeholder table before a data center breaks ground — and why economic development and water need to talk much earlier • Why not all data centers are created equal — and what that means for utilities negotiating leverage • The difference between direct and indirect water use — and why both matter for communities and utilities evaluating a new facility • Where standardization stands right now — and why 92% of last year's incremental GDP growth makes the answer critical Five voices. Five angles. One of the most important conversations the water sector is having right now. Learn more about 120Water: https://120water.com Featured voices: Bruno Pigott| Water Reuse Association Michelle Stockness | Freshwater Anthony DeRosa | Association of State Drinking Water Administrators (ASDWA) Damian Georgino | Dentons Peter Yolles | Echo River Capital #MakeWaterWork #DataCenters #WaterIndustry #DrinkingWater #WaterInfrastructure #WaterTech #AIandWater #WaterPolicy #Sustainability #WaterInnovation

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