Surgeon, Interrupted

Hippocratic Collective

A raw, reality-style podcast following Dr. Frances Mei Hardin’s final months as a surgeon and her bold leap into the unknown. Through solo episodes and unfiltered guest convos, it captures the chaos, clarity, and courage of walking away from a “dream career” to choose something better. For high-achievers, burnt-out professionals, and anyone ready to rewrite the rules - this isn’t just a show. It’s a permission slip. Find more info about Surgeon, Interrupted and other shows on the Hippocratic Collective at hippocratic-collective.com

  1. −22 h

    Who Are You Outside Medicine? | Ryan Montoya on Travel, Art & Reinvention

    Medicine teaches us who we're supposed to be. But what happens when we step outside of that identity? In this episode of Surgeon, Interrupted, Dr. Frances Mei sits down with physician, graphic medicine artist, and longtime friend Dr. Ryan Montoya to talk about the unexpected lessons that come from traveling alone, exhibiting artwork around the world, and building a life beyond traditional medicine. Ryan shares his journey from family physician and commercial illustrator to exhibiting graphic medicine in galleries across Tokyo, New York, Athens, and Naples, what it's like entering the fine art world for the first time, and why travel has become one of the greatest tools for personal growth. Together, Frances Mei and Ryan explore: • Why travel changes your identity • Making meaningful friendships as an adult • Leaving medicine without leaving yourself • The difference between commercial art and fine art • Reinvention after a medical career • Why physicians need interests beyond medicine • How new environments help you become the person you want to be If you've ever wondered who you are outside your white coat, or felt like medicine became your entire identity, this conversation is for you. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Ryan Montoya, MD Connect with Ryan: https://www.hippocratic-collective.com/members/ryan-montoya-md Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  2. 21 juli

    From Corporate Lawyer to Orthopedic Surgeon: Failure, Bias & Surviving Residency

    What happens when a corporate lawyer leaves law behind to become an orthopedic surgeon? On this episode of Surgeon, Interrupted, Frances Mei Hardin, MD, sits down with Christina “Dr. Chrissy” Greenfield, MD, JD—an orthopedic surgery resident, new mother, and former corporate attorney who applied to medical school four times before finally getting accepted. They discuss failing the bar exam, surviving rejection, gender bias in surgery, motherhood during residency, and why female surgeons are often expected to be both excellent and endlessly accommodating. Dr. Chrissy also shares practical strategies from her legal career for handling conflict in the hospital, negotiating with other services, documenting difficult interactions, and de-escalating tense conversations. In this episode: • Going from corporate law to orthopedic surgery • Applying to medical school four times • Recovering from failure and rejection • Gender bias and double standards in surgery • Pregnancy and motherhood during residency • Women undermining other women in medicine • How to disagree effectively in the hospital • Negotiation and de-escalation strategies for residents • Why persistence matters more than a perfect path Whether you are a medical student, resident, physician, lawyer considering medicine, or anyone navigating a nonlinear career, this conversation is a reminder to keep going—even when the path looks nothing like you planned. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Dr. Chrissy Greenfield, MD, LL.L, JD Connect with Chrissy: @dr.chrissymd Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  3. 14 juli

    Why Women Still Struggle to Lead in Surgery | Neurosurgery, Mentorship & Excellence

    One of the most accomplished neurosurgeons in Europe joins Surgeon, Interrupted. Dr. Yu-Mi Ryang is President-Elect of the German Spine Society, Chair-Elect of the EuroSpine Education Council, and one of the first women of color to rise to the highest levels of leadership in German neurosurgery. But her journey was anything but straightforward. In this conversation with Dr. Frances Mei Hardin, she shares what twenty years of surgical training, leadership, and perseverance taught her about excellence, mentorship, competition, and staying true to yourself in a profession that often rewards conformity. Together, they discuss: Why so many people told her not to become a neurosurgeonWorking 100+ hour weeks during surgical trainingThe unique challenges of being an Asian woman in medicineCompetition, scarcity mindset, and surgical cultureWhy mentorship matters—and why it sometimes failsPeople pleasing, authenticity, and leadershipBuilding a reputation through excellence instead of egoHow passion sustains a career in medicine Whether you're a medical student, resident, attending physician, or simply interested in leadership and personal growth, this episode is a candid look at what it really takes to build a meaningful career in surgery. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Yu-Mi Ryang, MD Connect with Dr. Ryang: https://de.linkedin.com/in/prof-dr-med-yu-mi-ryang-949310135 Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  4. 7 juli

    Can You Change Medicine From the Outside?

    Can someone still change medicine after they've left it? After returning from Hippocratic Collective's Los Angeles End of Academic Year celebration, Frances Mei shares a comment that stopped her in her tracks: "You walked away. Your credibility is gone." That criticism sparks a deeper conversation about one of the biggest questions in medicine today. Does meaningful change only come from people still inside the system, or are outsiders sometimes the ones most able to challenge it? Frances Mei and Colin discuss the backlash that comes with speaking publicly about residency culture, why doctors often police each other more than the system itself, and why they believe lasting change requires people working both inside and outside of medicine. They also share updates on the LA event, the newest issue of ex vivo, and why protecting your identity outside of medicine may make you a better physician. In this episode: • Highlights from Hippocratic Collective's LA End of Academic Year celebration • The release of the Summer issue of Ex Vivo • The comment that questioned Frances Mei's credibility after leaving surgery • Why "fix it from the inside" isn't the only path to change • The hidden cost of sacrificing creativity during medical training • Why building lasting resources for physicians matters more than social media EX VIVO 2026: https://www.hippocratic-collective.com/ex-vivo/2026 Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Following Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  5. 30 juni

    The Grief I Buried During Medical School Followed Me for Decades

    What happens when grief collides with medical training? In this deeply personal episode of Surgeon, Interrupted, Frances Mei sits down with family physician, educator, and author Dr. Shanda McManus to discuss loss, caregiving, resilience, and the hidden emotional costs of becoming a doctor. Growing up in North Philadelphia, Shonda helped care for her mother through advanced ovarian cancer before eventually becoming the first person in her family to attend college and pursue medicine. During medical school, her brother was murdered, a loss that would shape her life in profound ways. Like many physicians, she learned to keep moving, keep performing, and keep achieving—even while carrying unprocessed grief. Together, Frances and Shanda explore the culture of medicine that often rewards endurance while leaving little room for healing, and why creating space for grief may be one of the most important acts of self-preservation for physicians. Topics include: • Growing up in North Philadelphia • Caring for a parent with cancer as a child • Becoming the first person in your family to attend college • Pregnancy and parenthood during medical training • Taking time away from medicine without derailing your career • The murder of a sibling during medical school • Unprocessed grief and emotional survival in medicine • Why physicians deserve space to heal • Writing, memoir, and finding meaning through storytelling • The inspiration behind Shanda's new book This conversation is about loss, love, family, identity, and the ways medicine sometimes asks us to be less human when we need humanity most. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Shanda McManus, MD Connect with Shanda: https://www.shandamcmanus.com/ Brother Epistles - https://www.splitlippress.com/product-page/brother-epistles Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  6. 23 juni

    Her Residency Program Shut Down Mid-Training. Then Everything Changed.

    What happens when your residency program suddenly shuts down mid-training? In this episode of Surgeon, Interrupted, Frances Mei sits down with internal medicine physician Dr. Julia Torrellas to discuss one of the most destabilizing experiences a trainee can face: the closure of a residency program during training. Julia shares what it was like to learn that her hospital was shutting down, how residents were absorbed into a new program, and the emotional fallout of losing mentors, support systems, routines, and a sense of stability overnight. The conversation explores burnout, identity, self-sacrifice, boundaries, and what happens when medicine becomes your entire sense of self. Topics include: • What it feels like when a residency program closes • Starting over in a new hospital as a senior resident • Burnout and emotional exhaustion in training • Why many physicians tie their identity to their career • Self-abandonment and self-sacrifice in medicine • Setting boundaries without sabotaging your career • Navigating residency politics and power dynamics • Finding agency during uncertainty and disruption • Lessons learned from career setbacks and unexpected change Whether you're a medical student, resident, attending physician, or someone navigating a major life transition, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at resilience, identity, and rebuilding after disruption. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Julia Torrellas, MD Connect with Julia: @drjuliatorrellas Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  7. 16 juni

    I Thought I'd Stay in Academic Medicine. Residency Changed My Mind.

    What does it actually feel like to finish a plastic surgery residency in 2026? In this episode of Surgeon, Interrupted, Frances Mei sits down with graduating plastic surgery resident Dr. Liz Malphrus just days before graduation to reflect on the end of a six-year journey through surgical training. Together, they discuss burnout, confidence, identity, career choices, and what comes next after residency. Liz shares how her perspective on medicine evolved during training, why she ultimately chose private practice over academia, and the lessons she wishes she could tell her intern-year self. The conversation explores everything from comparison culture and perfectionism to finding agency, building a meaningful career, and the role supportive partners play in surviving medicine. They also discuss: • What residency teaches you about yourself • The surprising parts of surgical training • Why comparison is the thief of joy in residency • Academic medicine vs. private practice • The power of mentorship outside institutions • Marriage, support systems, and surviving training together • What happens when you finally get your life back • Why physicians may be more capable than they realize Whether you're a medical student, resident, attending physician, or simply curious about life behind the curtain of medical training, this episode offers an honest look at one of the biggest transitions in a physician's career. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Liz Malphrus, MD Connect with Liz: https://www.hippocratic-collective.com/members/liz-malphrus-md @dr.malphrus Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

  8. 9 juni

    A Plastic Surgeon’s Warning: Why Healthcare Rewards Treatment, Not Health

    Why does the United States spend more on healthcare than ever before while chronic disease continues to rise? In this episode of Surgeon Interrupted, Frances Mei sits down with reconstructive plastic surgeon Dr. Joshua Mirrer to explore the systems behind modern healthcare. From residency burnout and preventive medicine to agriculture, economics, chronic disease, and the incentive structures shaping American health, this conversation goes far beyond the operating room. Dr. Mirrer shares how his experiences in surgical training led him to study the larger forces influencing health outcomes, and why he believes meaningful change will require both individual action and community-level solutions. Topics include: Why healthcare is built around treating disease rather than preventing itThe rising cost of chronic illness in AmericaHow food systems and healthcare incentives intersectThe role of community in improving health outcomesLessons from diabetes prevention programsWriting, medicine, and making sense of complex systemsWhat surgeons can teach us about long-term thinking If you've ever wondered why healthcare feels broken, or what it might take to fix it, this conversation offers a thoughtful place to start. Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MD Guest: Joshua Mirrer, MD Connect with Joshua: http://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-mirrer-ab27436b https://substack.com/@jmirrer Presented by: The Hippocratic Collective Follow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimd And subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

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A raw, reality-style podcast following Dr. Frances Mei Hardin’s final months as a surgeon and her bold leap into the unknown. Through solo episodes and unfiltered guest convos, it captures the chaos, clarity, and courage of walking away from a “dream career” to choose something better. For high-achievers, burnt-out professionals, and anyone ready to rewrite the rules - this isn’t just a show. It’s a permission slip. Find more info about Surgeon, Interrupted and other shows on the Hippocratic Collective at hippocratic-collective.com