The Incubator

A weekly discussion about new evidence in neonatal care and the fascinating individuals who make this progress possible. Hosted by Dr. Ben Courchia and Dr. Daphna Yasova Barbeau.

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    #442 - [Journal Club] - 📌 Does NIRS guided treatment improve clinical outcomes for extremely preterm infants?

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Journal Club, Ben and Daphna dive into the results of the NIRTURE trial, recently published in JAMA Network Open. Building on the lessons of SafeBoosC 3 , the NIRTURE investigators aimed to reduce the burden of cerebral hypoxia and hyperoxia in extremely preterm infants using a standardized NIRS guided treatment protocol. While the study showed a dramatic improvement in maintaining cerebral normoxia, driven largely by a reduction in hyperoxia , the clinical outcomes before discharge remained neutral. Join us as we discuss whether regional oximetry is a must have bedside tool or just another data point in search of a clear clinical benefit.   ---- Cerebral Oximetry-Guided Treatment and Cerebral Oxygenation in Extremely Preterm Infants: A Randomized Clinical Trial. Jani PR, Goyen TA, Balegar KK, Maheshwari R, Saito-Benz M, Schindler T, Moore J, Merhi M, Cruz M, Song Y, McDonagh H, Luig M, Tracy M, D'Cruz D, Perdomo A, Morakeas S, Dasireddy V, Culcer M, Shingde V, Bennington K, Michalowski J, Fucek A, Querim J, Stevens S, Santanelli J, Elhindi J, Gloss B, Halliday R, Shah D, Popat H.JAMA Netw Open. 2026 Feb 2;9(2):e2557620.  Support the show As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below. Enjoy!

    22 min
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    #441 - Is Two Years Enough? Fellowship Directors Respond to the ABP’s Proposed Training Overhaul

    Send us Fan Mail The American Board of Pediatrics (ABP) recently announced a move toward competency-based subspecialty training that would shorten fellowships — including neonatology — from three years to two. The proposal has sent shockwaves through the training community. In this episode, Daphna sits down with three leaders from the Organization of Neonatal Perinatal Training Program Directors (ONTPD): Dr. Patrick Myers from Northwestern, Dr. Heather French from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, and Dr. Melissa Scala from Stanford. Together, they break down what competency-based medical education actually means in practice, why the math simply doesn't add up when applied to neonatology, and what this could mean for procedural training, scholarly activity, fellow well-being, and ultimately patient care. They also address the workforce concerns driving the ABP's proposal, share survey data from program directors across the country, and offer concrete alternative pathways forward. The message from the field is clear: the community wants to innovate — but they want a seat at the table first. Support the show As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below. Enjoy!

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    #440 - 🔵 [PAS 2026] - Are We Ready for Gentle Hemodynamics the Way We Embraced Gentle Ventilation?

    Send us Fan Mail Dr. Gabriel Altit and Daniela Villegas from the NeoCardioLab at Montreal join Ben and Rupa to reflect on a packed PAS filled with hemodynamics science — from pulmonary hypertension phenotyping to heart-brain interactions in the golden hour. Dr. Altit makes the case that just as neonatology learned to embrace gentle ventilation, it is time to think about gentle hemodynamics — intervening thoughtfully, recognizing different clinical phenotypes, and knowing when to remove interventions before they carry a price. He also previews early 3D echo data suggesting that a single clip at day 7 to 10 of life may already carry a signature predicting which babies will develop adverse cardiopulmonary outcomes by 36 weeks. Daniela shares her approach to family consent and research recruitment — sitting down, leaving papers behind, connecting families to the history of research that made current NICU care possible, and always giving them space to process before returning for an answer. Support the show As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below. Enjoy!

    22 min

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