Weird Little Guys

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Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off. 

  1. 4 DAYS AGO

    A Klansman in Berlin: Dennis Mahon, Pt. 2

    After winning his battle with a Kansas City cable company over the right to air his Klan public access television show, Dennis Mahon never made a second episode of Klansas City Kable. He was too busy organizing nazi punks in Tulsa and getting Klan chapters started in Germany.  Sources: Ronson, Jon. “The Debutante.” Audible Originals, 2023 Ronson, Jon. Them: Adventures with Extremists. Picador, 2001 Forbes, Robert and Stampton, Eddie. The White Nationalist Skinhead Movement 1979-1993. Feral House, 2015 Moore, Jack. Skinheads Shaved for Battle: A Cultural History of American Skinheads. Popular Press, 1993 Travis, Tiffini. Skinheads: A Guide to an American Subculture. Greenwood, 2012 Kushner, Jacob. Look Away: A True Story of Murders, Bombings, and a Far-Right Campaign to Rid Germany of Immigrants. Grand Central Publishing, 2024 Newton, Michael. White Robes and Burning Crosses: A History of the Ku Klux Klan from 1866. McFarland and Company 2014 Lee, Martin. The Beast Reawakens: Fascism's Resurgence from Hitler's Spymasters to Today's Neo-Nazi Groups and Right-Wing Extremists. Little, Brown and Company, 1997. Ketter, Pia. "Zwischen Mord und Kreuzverbrennung. Der Rechte Rand, March/April 2016. Rink, Nina. "Anleitung zum »Rassenhass«" Der Rechte Rand, March/April 2016 Charles, Roger. “Prior Warning.” Soldier of Fortune Magazine, November 1997 https://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/21/us/3-to-stop-racist-talks-in-mister-rogers-tone.html https://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/12/us/klan-is-told-to-stop-imitating-mister-rogers-on-the-phone.html  https://tulsaworld.com/archive/2-victims-speak-out-on-beatings-harassment/article_7376c33f-036b-516f-b004-08e1c7ce3fa2.html  https://tulsaworld.com/archive/admitted-skinhead-wont-flee-friends-family-say/article_e986329a-b86a-52ca-b6ea-1f9d4954fd3d.html  https://tulsaworld.com/archive/kkk-head-offers-aid-in-trial/article_992ae2e8-0a99-5922-8c54-c8b19e4a511f.html  https://okmag.com/blog/a-punk-music-history/  https://flatlandkc.org/news-issues/changed-elohim-city-including-beliefs-residents/ https://www.texasobserver.org/906-editorial-the-phones-were-ringing/  https://issues.texasobserver.org/pdf/ustxtxb_obs_1997_03_28_issue.pdf https://issues.texasobserver.org/pdf/ustxtxb_obs_1997_03_14_issue.pdf  https://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/03/world/klan-seizes-on-germany-s-wave-of-racist-violence.html  https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/01/world/a-wave-of-attacks-on-foreigners-stirs-shock-in-germany.html  https://jeffmaysh.substack.com/p/how-an-undercover-exotic-dancer-captured See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    44 min
  2. 5 DEC

    Ku Klux Kable Access TV

    For over a decade, neo-Nazis and Klansmen were hand-delivering VHS tapes of a California-based public access TV show to local television stations in cities across the country. The stations had no choice but to run the show on local public access channels. The show's host, Tom Metzger, received a gift of $300,000 in 1984 that gave him the financial freedom to pursue his dream of delivering his racist message to as many Americans as possible, right through their television screens.  Sources: Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018.  Flynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989. Hamm, Mark S., and Cécile Van de Voorde. “Crimes Committed by Terrorist Groups: Theory, Research, and Prevention.” Trends in Organized Crime, vol. 9, no. 2, 2005  National Institute Against Prejudice and Violence, Bigotry and Cable TV: Legal Issues and Community Responses (Institute Report No.3), Baltimore, Maryland: The Institute, 1988. Bradley J. Howard, Pulling the Plug: Controversial Programming on Public Access Television and the Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992, 28 J. Marshall L. Rev. 399 (1995) Rendahl, Stephen E.. "White Aryan Resistance: A Radical Communication System." North Dakota Journal of Speech & Theatre, vol. 4, no. 1, 1 Sep. 1991, pp. 44 - 52. Rendahl, Stephen (1990). Media access and the radical right: Public access to "race and reason." Unpublished paper presented to the Central States Communication Association, Detroit, MI. Spring/Summer 1989 issue of “No KKK No Fascist USA,” Newspaper of the John Brown Anti-Klan Committee https://www.freedomarchives.org/Documents/Finder/DOC37_scans/37.nokkk.spr89.pdf December 1985 issue of Searchlight magazine https://ia600700.us.archive.org/4/items/searchlight_126/searchlight_126.pdf https://casetext.com/case/us-v-mahon-19 https://idavox.com/index.php/2020/12/10/american-strasser/ https://northernstar.info/16419/news/city/crusade-adds-fuel-to-flame-of-tensions/  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-08-10-ca-99-story.html  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-02-13-me-23281-story.html  https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/30/us/bill-wassmuth-61-an-ex-priest-who-fought-white-supremacists.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-01-10-me-11091-story.html https://www.nytimes.com/1989/07/16/us/klan-wins-a-battle-for-cable-tv.html https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2001/tim-and-sarah-gayman-discuss-growing-anti-semitic-christian-identity-movement?page=0%2C1 https://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/20/us/racist-aryan-nations-group-inducts-new-disciples.html https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/chris-hobson-bruce-augustyniak-bruce-kala https://memorial.bellsystem.com/pdf/1988ATTar_Complete.pdf https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2010/04/22/white-supremacist-richard-barrett-murdered-mississippi-home See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    54 min
  3. 28 NOV

    CZM Rewind: Barry Black Pt. 1 & 2

    The Fire Will Not Consume Us: Barry Black, Part 1 In 2003, the Supreme Court ruled that the mere act of burning a cross, absent evidence of specific intent to intimidate, is protected by the first amendment. But who was the klansman who got his case all the way to the highest court in the land? This is the first half of the story of Barry Black, a Pennsylvania Ku Klux Klan leader who won two write-in campaigns for constable, waged war on a rural gay bar, and spent decades fighting for his right to intimidate. Original Air Date: 10.3.24 Freedom to Burn: Barry Black, Part 2 In part two of the story of Barry Black, we finally get to the landmark supreme court case that won the klansman the right to burn crosses. Barry's Keystone Knights faded into relative obscurity after the high profile case and Virginia passed a new law aimed to prevent men like Barry from using fire as a tool of intimidation. Original Air Date: 10.10.24 Sources - Pt. 1:  https://www.salon.com/2009/07/24/liddy/ https://www.fec.gov/resources/legal-resources/litigation/berg_ac_berg_emerg_mot_proh_cert.pdf https://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/PROJECTS/Obama/Evidence/AFFIDAVIT-Bishop.pdf https://barthsnotes.com/2009/08/25/meet-ron-mcrae-the-birther-bishop/ https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/278475/dykudrama/ https://digdc.dclibrary.org/islandora/object/dcplislandora%3A266739/datastream/OCR/view https://archives.rainbowhistory.org/files/original/367cf04d6456e9b3c311296a806863cd.pdf https://youtu.be/o4o0tZPETAc https://archive.org/details/BarryE.Black/mode/2up Heibel, Todd (2004). Blame It on the Casa Nova?: “Good Scenery and Sodomy” in Rural Southwestern Pennsylvania. In Spaces of Hate: Geographies of Discrimination and Intolerance in the U.S.A. Routledge. Sources - Pt. 2:  https://law.duke.edu/voices/virginia https://www.oyez.org/cases/2002/01-1107 https://unprecedented.substack.com/p/transcript-bodily-harm-is-coming https://time.com/archive/6615465/south-carolina-backfire/ https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/us/georgia-kkk-adopt-a-highway-lawsuit/index.html https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/former-kkk-headquarters-terrorized-town-years-now-will-become-diversit-rcna20865 https://www.kait8.com/story/3384156/prison-officer-fired-for-kkk-membership-sues-arkansas-correction-department/ Unite the Right audio from videos by photojournalist Zach D Roberts & publicly available video recorded by the marchers themselves See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1h 37m
  4. 21 NOV

    Arrested Democracy, Pt. 2

    When Oath Keeper Darren Huff returned to Madisonville, Tennessee on April 20, 2010, he was planning to take control of the courthouse. It didn't quite work out that way. He didn't even see the inside of a courthouse until his own arrest a week later. Sources: https://www.politico.com/story/2010/04/army-birther-under-investigation-035823 https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/army-birther-lakin-released-from-leavenworth/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1995/04/26/gordon-liddy-on-shooting-from-the-lip/75754676-030f-4191-a9e3-a421855aea1f/ https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-six-g-gordon-liddy-the-126130442/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/roger-stone-kristin-davis-robert-mueller/ https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democratic-party-accuses-republicans-voter-intimidation-federal-court https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/attorney-for-birther-army-doc-is-former-gop-staffer-and-anti-gay-crusader https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/gan/press/2011/11-01-11.html https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/14/fewer-than-1-of-defendants-in-federal-criminal-cases-were-acquitted-in-2022/  https://time.com/archive/6597707/the-secret-world-of-extreme-militias/ https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-vaxxers-charge-followers-to-join-fake-anthony-fauci-grand-jury/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4382623/fitzpatrick-v-bivins/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/5092131/united-states-v-huff-tv1/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1h 4m
  5. 14 NOV

    Arrested Democracy, Pt .1

    In 2010, conspiracy theorists around the country were convinced that Barack Obama was not the rightful president. Some of them filed lawsuits. Some of them tried to have the President indicted. And when none of that worked, some of them took matters into their own hands and tried to arrest the county court employees they thought were standing in their way. In the first half of this story, Walter Fitzpatrick unsuccessfully storms the courtroom in Madisonville, Tennessee. The outcry over his arrest would motivate Oath Keeper Darren Huff to rally supporters for a second attempt. Sources: Jardina A, Traugott M. The Genesis of the Birther Rumor: Partisanship, Racial Attitudes, and Political Knowledge. The Journal of Race, Ethnicity, and Politics. 2019;4(1):60-80. doi:10.1017/rep.2018.25 Josh Pasek, Tobias H. Stark, Jon A. Krosnick, Trevor Tompson, What motivates a conspiracy theory? Birther beliefs, partisanship, liberal-conservative ideology, and anti-Black attitudes, Electoral Studies, Volume 40, 2015 Hughey, M.W. Show Me Your Papers! Obama’s Birth and the Whiteness of Belonging. Qual Sociol 35, 163–181 (2012). https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna33388485 https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/us/12alabama.html https://www.newsherald.com/story/news/crime/2018/10/19/vigilante-group-oath-keepers-arrested-in-mexico-beach-following-hurricane-michael/9509280007/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oath-keepers-poll-watching_n_58122566e4b0990edc2f8178 https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/1998/hate-group-expert-daniel-levitas-discusses-posse-comitatus-christian-identity-movement-and https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2009mc00346/137380/2/0.pdf https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/25/judge-lamberth-jan-6-trump-00137960 https://www.tncourts.gov/rules/rules-criminal-procedure/6  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    53 min
  6. 31 OCT

    The Devil's Chat Room: Ethan Melzer, Pt. 1

    In June of 2020, US Army Private Ethan Melzer was arrested for leaking information about his unit's deployment to Turkey with the intention of causing a mass casualty incident. The plot was hatched in a Telegram chat room for a group calling itself Rapewaffen, an Atomwaffen splinter cell that was committed to the beliefs of a neonazi satanic cult called the Order of Nine Angles. This episode follows the rise of satanism within Atomwaffen and the chaos that influence caused. Sources: https://unicornriot.ninja/2020/national-guard-soldier-who-deployed-to-dc-identified-as-neo-nazi/ https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/ohio-national-guard-member-sent-home-for-white-supremacist-views-is-likely-a-fascist-youtuber https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/ohio-national-guard-soldier-pulled-from-mission-in-d-c-appears-on-neo-fascist-podcast-says-hes-being-discharged https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/05/fbi-national-guardsman-expressed-white-supremacist-ideology-303924 https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/the-satanist-neo-nazi-plot-to-murder-u-s-soldiers-1352629/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/neo-nazi-1378280 https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-06-02/military-begins-staging-around-washington-to-quell-george-floyd-protests https://hopenothate.org.uk/2020/06/23/the-rapewaffen-telegram-channel/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/soldiers-cases-highlight-reach-of-white-extremism-into-us-military/2020/06/25/0203532e-b582-11ea-9b0f-c797548c1154_story.html See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    54 min

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Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off. 

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