DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling

Bret Fisher

Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show with co-host Nirmal Mehta. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Swarm, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, platform engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info available at https://podcast.bretfisher.com

  1. AI Wins and Misses for 2025

    PRED 5 D.

    AI Wins and Misses for 2025

    I'm joined by Nirmal Mehta of AWS and Viktor Farcic from Upbound, to go through our 2025 year in review. We look into the AI tools that consumed us this year, from CLI agents to terminal emulators, IDEs, AI browsers - what worked, what flopped, what's worth your time and money, and what we think isn't! Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/mnagfUsh5bc 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Nirmal Mehta - Host Viktor Farcic - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Introduction (04:15) - Game of AI Tools (04:41) - Reflecting on the Fast-Paced Year (07:12) - CLI Tools and AI Integration (08:50) - Ghostty (11:49) - Terminal Preferences and AI Tools (13:53) - Claude Code (16:14) - Skills (27:21) - Warp (34:42) - AWS Kiro and Spec-Driven Development (41:01) - Visual Editors (IDEs) (46:22) - Zed (48:32) - AI Browsers (01:02:13) - Notion AI (01:04:31) - Code Rabbit MCP (01:07:10) - AI Optimization (01:10:02) - Ad Blocking and AI SEO

    1 h 17 min
  2. Find Your K8s Happy Path with RawKode Academy

    23. 1.

    Find Your K8s Happy Path with RawKode Academy

    I talk with David Flanagan, aka Rawkode, about his new opinionated Tech Matrix that helps you navigate the overwhelming CNCF landscape. https://rawkode.academy/technology/matrix 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 ★Show Links★ RawKode Academy websiteDavid's DiscordDavid's LinkedInDavid on social media: @rawkode everywhereCheck out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/1LigTOlFiYk Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer David Flanagan - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Intro (04:46) - Opinions on HashiCorp (08:54) - The CNCF Landscape (10:23) - Opinionated Tech Matrix (17:48) - Tech Matrix in Detail (28:11) - The Advocate List (28:55) - Cloud Events and CUE (30:12) - SpiceDB and Teleport (31:38) - Service Meshes: Linkerd vs. Istio (32:23) - Kubernetes and CNI (33:18) - Observability Tools (33:59) - WebAssembly and Rust (34:45) - Learning Paths and DevOps (42:32) - Key Takeaways (45:30) - Database Fundamentals

    53 min
  3. Move K8s Stateful Pods Between Nodes

    09. 10. 2025

    Move K8s Stateful Pods Between Nodes

    Bret is joined by Philip Andrews and Dan Muret of Cast AI to discuss pod live migration between nodes in a Kubernetes cluster. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 Cast AI dynamically moves your pod to a different node without downtime or data lost. It copies your running pod data, memory, IP address, and TCP connections from one node to another in real time. In this episode, we nerd out over how Cast AI works under the hood, use cases for it, including hardware and OS maintenance on a node. I've got a feeling Cast AI has a winning feature on their hands. ★Show Links★Cast AI website Cast AI YouTube Channel Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/yINNWxRywv4 Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Dan Muret - Guest Philip Andrews - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Introduction (02:21) - Cast AI Elevator Pitch (06:57) - Stateful Workloads (10:03) - Bin Packing in Live Migration (13:35) - Stateful vs Stateless (15:43) - Networking and Storage Considerations (23:03) - Future Developments and Use Cases (25:43) - ML Workloads (28:25) - Live Migration of Spot Instances (31:01) - Live Migration Process Explained (39:02) - Challenges and Engineering Behind Live Migration (43:56) - Getting Started with Cast AI

    46 min
  4. Swarm 2030. Let's Go!

    20. 08. 2025

    Swarm 2030. Let's Go!

    Bret discusses exciting news about Swarm being maintained until 2030. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 In this episode, I give an update on the future of Docker Swarm, the renewed long-term support and ongoing development from Mirantis. The news should be reassuring for you, Swarm users. Swarm remains a viable, supported option for your container orchestration needs, at least until 2030.★Show Links★Swarm news: Mirantis maintaining until 2030Awesome SwarmCheck out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/tmQbrCrM-yM Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Intro (00:34) - History of Mirantis and Swarm (01:02) - Swarm's Current Status (03:44) - Swarm's Long-Term Support (08:07) - Swarm's Value Proposition (12:25) - Technical Challenges and Solutions (17:47) - Looking Ahead: Roadmap and Commitments (20:26) - Final Thoughts

    25 min
  5. Is Docker Building the Best AI Stack?

    12. 08. 2025

    Is Docker Building the Best AI Stack?

    Bret and Nirmal are joined by Michael Irwin to discuss Docker's comprehensive AI toolkit, covering everything from local model deployment to cloud-based container orchestration across multiple interconnected tools and services. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 We run through almost the entire Docker AI ecosystem, including the Model Runner for hosting open-source models locally or remotely, the Hub model catalog, Gordon AI chatbot integration within Docker Desktop and CLI, how MCP toolkit and catalog enable seamless tool integration with local AI systems, Docker's open-source MCP gateway for managing these connections, plus Docker's new Offload service for running containers and models entirely in Docker Cloud and much, much more!★Show Links★Docker Model RunnerGordon AI Blog PostDocker OffloadDocker Gen AI CatalogDocker MCP Catalog and ToolkitDocker MCP Gateway Repository Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/dUmSsnc33O0 Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Nirmal Mehta - Host Michael Irwin 🇺🇦 🕊 - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Intro (04:32) - Gordon AI (11:18) - Docker Model Runner (21:11) - State of Free Models (23:48) - MCP Toolkit (26:16) - MCP Gateway (35:22) - MCP Server Limits (40:08) - MCP Gateway vs API Gateway (47:48) - Model Support in Docker Compose (52:37) - Docker Offload

    1 h 7 min
  6. Could AI End Human QA?

    29. 07. 2025

    Could AI End Human QA?

    Bret is joined by Andrew Tunall, the President and Chief Product Officer at Embrace, to discuss his prediction that we’ll all start shipping non-QA'd code (buggier code in production) and QA will need to be replaced with better observability. 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 If AI causes us to ship more code, we’ll need more testing and QA. It’s unlikely that orgs will want to add staff just so they can use AI, so what’s the solution? Would we start relying more on production observability to detect code issues that affect user experience? Embrace is a mobile observability platform company that I first met at KubeCon London this year. Their pitch was that mobile apps were ready for the full observability stack and that we now have SDKs to let mobile dev teams integrate with the same tools that we platform engineers and DevOps people and operators have been building and enjoying for years now. I wanted to hear from observability experts on how they think this is all going to shake out. ★Show Links★Embrace websiteEmbrace GitHub repositoryEmbrace docs Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/HHpn3OqMrbU Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Andrew Tunall - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Intro (03:00) - AI in QA and Software Development (07:25) - Challenges and Cultural Shifts in AI-Driven Development (19:27) - Real-World Examples and Observations (26:01) - Future of AI in Software Engineering (26:49) - Building Reliable Software (27:39) - Tools and Strategies for Measuring Reliability (28:39) - Importance of Observability (35:52) - Enhancing Mobile App Observability (42:41) - Changing Behaviors in Observability

    54 min
  7. AI Agents Running Containers

    01. 07. 2025

    AI Agents Running Containers

    The Daytona founders - Ivan Burazin and Vedran Jukic - discuss their pivot to an AI agent cloud. We dig into the new infrastructure requirements of developing agents that need their own sandboxes to operate in. A year ago, we had them on to talk about Daytona giving us remote development environments for humans, and they have now pivoted the company to focusing on providing cloud hosting environments for AI agents to operate. I suspect this is something we're all gonna eventually need to tackle as we work to automate more of our software engineering. So we spend time breaking down the concepts and the real world needs of humans developing agents, and then the needs of AI that require places to run their own tools in code. Check out the video podcast version here https://youtu.be/l8LBqDUwtV8 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Ivan Burazin - Guest Vedran Jukic - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Intro (07:45) - Daytona's Sandbox Technology (14:34) - Practical Applications and Use Cases (16:06) - Security and Isolation in AI Agents (19:36) - Start Up Times for Sandboxing and Kubernetes (24:28) - Daytona vs Lambda (32:43) - Rogue Models and Isolation (36:31) - Humanless Operations and the Future of DevOps (48:54) - SDK vs MCP (51:52) - Human in the Loop (52:50) - Daytona: Open Source vs Product Offering

    57 min
  8. Heroku + MCP = The Fastest Way to Run AI Agents in the Cloud

    06. 06. 2025

    Heroku + MCP = The Fastest Way to Run AI Agents in the Cloud

    Julián Duque from Heroku joins me to explain and demo their new AI platform. Check out the video podcast version here https://youtu.be/BGqlLZHdRDs 🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://learn.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾 Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Julián Duque - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Introduction (06:49) - Deep Dive into Heroku's AI Capabilities (16:00) - Heroku MCP server (30:04) - Describing MCP Tool Interactions (32:25) - DevOps Automation with Heroku MCP server (38:39) - Heroku AI and Future Prospects

    43 min
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Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show with co-host Nirmal Mehta. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Swarm, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, platform engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info available at https://podcast.bretfisher.com

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