Barriers to Entry

SANDOW Design Group, digby, and SURROUND
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Barriers to Entry is a design innovation podcast on the SURROUND Podcast Network. On each episode, we obsess over the not-too-distant future of the architecture, design and creative industries and the ideas, tools, technologies and talent that will take us there. Hosted by SANDOW DESIGN GROUP Chief Growth Officer Bobby Bonett, and digby co-founder Andrew Lane.

  1. Caroline Murphy, Design Engagement Strategist, SANDOW

    4 DAYS AGO

    Caroline Murphy, Design Engagement Strategist, SANDOW

    The Curse of Youth This week Andrew welcomes Caroline Murphy, Design Engagement Strategist at SANDOW, for a conversation that starts with a familiar modern curse of youth: being the default tech support person in your family. From there, Andrew and Caroline dig into a bigger question—what happens when young designers are expected to master both design and AI at the same time? Caroline shares how her own early-career frustration in Nashville led her to build the Young Designers Collective, creating spaces where emerging designers could actually learn, connect, and feel supported. She and Andrew unpack why many younger designers are more cautious about AI than people assume, where firms are embracing it, and how the best use case may simply be removing friction so designers can spend more time actually thinking. They also explore why, in an age of algorithms and AI companions, real-world community, mentorship, and human connection may matter more than ever. Connect with our host, Andrew Lane, on LinkedIn Follow Caroline Murphy on LinkedIn References and resources Young Designers Collective Interior Design 30/30 Get in touch with us at bte@sandowdesign.com Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. This season of Barriers to Entry is sponsored by Arktura. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    40 min
  2. Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture

    25 MAR

    Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture

    Architecture as a Startup Season 4 opens with a milestone moment: Andrew Lane’s first solo episode as host. With a little encouragement from Producer Rob, Andrew welcomes back friend of the show Matthias Hollwich, founder of HWKN Architecture, for a conversation about why the architecture industry may need to reinvent itself entirely. Matthias argues that today every architecture firm needs to think like a startup. With AI transforming design tools and workflows at breakneck speed, his studio has embraced rapid experimentation—running internal AI sprints, rewriting their design process every few months, and using generative tools to explore entirely new forms of architecture. Andrew and Matthias discuss how AI is reshaping everything from design research to client collaboration, how new technologies can unlock more emotional and human-centered architecture, and why this moment may allow architects to reclaim influence over the future of the built environment. Connect with our host, Andrew Lane, on LinkedIn Follow Matthias Hollwich on LinkedIn References and resources HWKN Architecture Get in touch with us at bte@sandowdesign.com Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. This season of Barriers to Entry is sponsored by Arktura. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    43 min
  3. Chris Barton: Founder of Shazam, 2025 NeoCon Keynote Speaker

    09/06/2025 ·  BONUS

    Chris Barton: Founder of Shazam, 2025 NeoCon Keynote Speaker

    User-first In a special NeoCon edition episode of BTE, Bobby and Andrew are joined by tech and design leader Chris Barton, founder of the renowned music app Shazam and Wednesday’s NeoCon keynote speaker. The trio dives into insights, stories, and observations from Chris’s impressive career in tech, which includes founding Shazam “in the 1900s” nearly a decade before the App Store existed, followed by roles at pre-IPO Google and Dropbox. Alongside a series of fascinating anecdotes and a few teasers (not spoilers!) for Chris’s Wednesday keynote, they also explore thoughts on the future of AI and education, the challenges of designing a user-first experience when no comparable product exists, and how that initial spark of an idea evolves over time. Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn:  Bobby Bonett Andrew Lane Follow Chris Barton on Linkedin References and resources: Shazam Unsupervised Learning [PODCAST] NeoCon Keynotes Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at bte@sandowdesign.com or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812. Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com.  This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    43 min
  4. Mary Franck, Experiential Creative Director

    27/05/2025

    Mary Franck, Experiential Creative Director

    Making Data Approachable This week, Bobby and Andrew welcome a guest whose career arc has been about finding the fusion between art and data. From bringing data-driven experiences to life for everyone from IBM to the Masters to The New York Times, to dedicating time to her own personal and community projects, Mary blends two practices that many struggle to connect in the first place. Now, as an Experiential Creative Director leading emerging practices at Future Colossal, Mary sits down with the guys to dive deeply into her process and how she maintains this delicate balance while creating digital and data-powered experiences for the physical world. This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura. Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn:  Bobby Bonett Andrew Lane Follow Mary Franck on Linkedin References and resources: FutureColossal Other BTE Episodes to Reference: David Schwartz, Founder, HUSH Kelly Knapp, Experiential Creative Director  Rodolfo Agrella, Founder, RADS Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at bte@sandowdesign.com or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812. Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com.  This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    37 min
  5. Steven Ranta, Solutions Manager, Arktura and Nathan Ferrance, Vice President, HKS

    13/05/2025

    Steven Ranta, Solutions Manager, Arktura and Nathan Ferrance, Vice President, HKS

    The Architect’s Architect  Bobby and Andrew once again have their hands full this week with a dynamic duo joining them in the podcave. Arktura’s Steven Ranta and HKS’s Nathan Ferrance sit down with the gang to explore the many challenges of partnering to create innovative work. It’s hard enough to do this on your own, but Arktura has made a name for itself by pushing boundaries. In this exploratory episode, we dive into some of their key collaborations, how they’ve overcome challenges and barriers, and how their respective companies have built a solutions-oriented culture and mindset. This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura. Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn:  Bobby Bonett Andrew Lane Follow Steven Ranta and Nathan Ferrance on Linkedin References and resources: Aktura HKS Concept to Completion: Textron System Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at bte@sandowdesign.com or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812. Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com.  This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    51 min
  6. Amanda Schneider, President, ThinkLab

    29/04/2025

    Amanda Schneider, President, ThinkLab

    Humanity-first For an unprecedented third time, Bobby and Andrew are joined on the pod by ThinkLab President and Design Nerds Anonymous host, Amanda Schneider. In another of their always forward-looking conversations, the trio discusses the rapid adoption of AI in the design industry, the barriers to further growth, and how people could be the key to unlocking technology in the future. From there, they dive into the exciting experience of Amanda’s recent TEDx talk being promoted to TED.com, chat about Bobby and Andrew’s unrealized future TED talk dreams, explore the wealth of resources available to curious designers, and, of course, find a way to throw in a few SANDOW plugs. This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura. Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn:  Bobby Bonett Andrew Lane Follow Amanda Schneider on Linkedin References and resources: ThinkLab Perplexity (AI model) Claude (AI model) Amanda’s TEDx Talk (Video) Design Nerds Anonymous (Podcast) ThinkLab 2025 US Design Industry Benchmark Study (Download) Everyday AI Podcast Related and referred BTE Episodes: Amanda’s First Visit to BTE Amanda’s Second Visit to BTE Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at bte@sandowdesign.com or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812. Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    46 min
  7. Michael Luck Schneider, CEO, Volvox Labs

    15/04/2025

    Michael Luck Schneider, CEO, Volvox Labs

    Where art meets innovation Bobby and Andrew sit down with a leader who’s made his career on the cutting edge of technology, art and design while working with some of the world’s biggest brands and businesses. As the CEO of the experimental ‘new media’ company, Volvox Labs, Michael leads an interdisciplinary team of designers, technologists, artists and creatives who strive to create meaningful and memorable experiences for people in physical spaces. Along the way, we learn about their hands on approach to solving problems through rapid prototyping, what technologies and practices are pushing their practice of ‘new media art’ forward, how to identify a lunchtime gang of technologists in Brooklyn, and much more.   This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura. Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn:  Bobby Bonett Andrew Lane Follow Michael Luck Schneider on Linkedin References and resources: Volvox Labs Kuka Arms ISE Europe Related and referred BTE Episodes: Leading a studio on the edge of design and innovation with David Schwartz, Founder at HUSH Building experiential design at scale with (Michael’s former colleague at Gensler), Sarah DiLeo Thinking at the intersection of design and technology with Rodolfo Agrella, Founder at RADS Studio Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at bte@sandowdesign.com or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812. Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com.  This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    42 min
  8. Eli Hoisington, Co-CEO, HOK

    02/04/2025

    Eli Hoisington, Co-CEO, HOK

    “That’s the job” This week, Bobby and Andrew have the pleasure of welcoming a leader who’s made his way up through the ranks of one of the world’s most prestigious architecture firms by doing it all. Eli Hoisington rose up at HOK working in nearly every facet of the design business, which today gives him a bold and informed take as Co-CEO. Peering into Eli’s data-driven lens on the future, they dive into what’s on the mind of a CEO of a global firm during a time of unprecedented disruption discussing everything from making big bets on expansion, carving out a financially responsible approach to investing in innovation, and staying focused on talent through it all. This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura. Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn:  Bobby Bonett Andrew Lane Follow Eli Hoisington on Linkedin References and resources: HOK Related and referred BTE Episodes: Bill Mandara, CEO at Mancini Duffy Lionel Ohayon, CEO at iCrave, COO at Journey John Edelman, CEO at Heller (from 2023) Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at bte@sandowdesign.com or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812. Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com.  This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    48 min
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Barriers to Entry is a design innovation podcast on the SURROUND Podcast Network. On each episode, we obsess over the not-too-distant future of the architecture, design and creative industries and the ideas, tools, technologies and talent that will take us there. Hosted by SANDOW DESIGN GROUP Chief Growth Officer Bobby Bonett, and digby co-founder Andrew Lane.

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  • Creator
    SANDOW Design Group, digby, and SURROUND
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    55
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    Barriers to Entry

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