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A podcast by two sisters who care about celebrities as much as their family.

  1. 12 HR AGO • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    336: MomTok's Jessi Opens Up About Surgery Regret, Daryl Hannah Responds To JFK Jr. Show + RHOBH

    Lauren and Chanler react to Travis Kelce’s comments about Taylor Swift, Jessi’s plastic surgery backlash from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and Daryl Hannah speaking out about the Love Story series. They also cover the disturbing incident involving Rihanna, celebrity home break-ins in Los Angeles, the viral NYC private school cheating scandal, and the latest Real Housewives of Beverly Hills drama. Timestamps: (00:08:01) 🏈 Travis Kelce Returns— Kelce returning to football, inspired by Taylor, and what it could mean for TS13 (00:10:57) 💉 Jessi’s Plastic Surgery Fallout — Secret Lives of Mormon Wives backlash, honesty online, and the dark side of sharing cosmetic work (00:22:43) 📰 Daryl Hannah Speaks Out — the love story controversy, Ryan Murphy’s portrayal of JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, and defending a real reputation (00:31:08) 🚨 Rihanna Shooting Incident — a disturbing shooting outside Rihanna’s home, celebrity delusions, and the dangers of obsession (00:33:23) 🏠 Celebrity Home Break-ins — Rachel Zoe, Morgan Stewart, and why luxury social media posts may be creating real-life security risks (00:38:12) 📚 The Spence School Cheating Ccandal — viral posters, a furious grandfather, and whether public shaming still has a place in modern culture (00:44:11) 💎 Dorit’s Foreclosure — RHOBH financial drama, questionable spending, and housewives’ lifestyle reality checks (00:50:25) 💍 Amanda’s Over-the-top Wedding Plans — helicopter entrances, luxury flexing, and why the internet is side-eyeing the extravagance (01:01:21) 💔 Rachel’s Divorce Conversation — telling her sons the truth, reality tv vulnerability, and the complicated cost of filming family moments (01:02:14) 🚗 Boz’s Parenting Debate — Maserati birthday present, parenting choices, and the moment that sparked a surprising discussion (01:04:48) 🍾RHOBH Recap — shifting alliances, cast dynamics, and where the season stands now

    1h 6m
  2. 2 DAYS AGO

    335: Timothée Chalamet Angers the Arts, Netflix Drops Meghan Markle’s Brand + Ballerina Farm Conspiracy Theories

    Lauren and Chanler are back with a full celebrity outline and a much needed break from the heavier Epstein deep dives. They talk through the internet’s latest pop culture moments, from Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds’ very public date night to Timothée Chalamet accidentally angering art world. Then they get into the internet’s obsession with Ballerina Farm, Meghan Markle’s latest business pivot, and why certain celebrity narratives just refuse to leave the timeline. Timestamps: (00:10:24) 👩🏼‍❤️‍💋‍👨🏻 Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds PDA — staged kissing photos, the internet’s reaction to the couple, and narcissists in love (00:20:08) 🎬 Timothée Chalamet vs Ballet and Opera — the Variety interview clip, artist identity debates, and why the arts community is not amused (00:29:04) 👶 Ballerina Farm Baby No. 9 — pregnancy reveal, the cinematic protein ad, and the internet’s endless fascination with Hannah Neeleman (00:37:24) 🥛 Raw Milk and Internet Conspiracies — Ballerina Farm backlash, lifestyle discourse, and why the conversation keeps spiraling (00:53:54) 🍯 Meghan Markle’s As Ever Brand — Netflix stepping away, luxury jam prices, and what the future of Meghan’s lifestyle empire might look like (01:02:13) 👑 The Sussex Strategy — Meghan and Harry’s latest moves, royal style tours, and why their public image keeps shifting Athletic Greens: Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/apologists to get their best offer on your first subscription order. Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Revolve: Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/POP and use code POP for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner Macy's: Shop at https://www.macys.com or in stores now! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 9m
  3. 6 MAR • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    334: EPSTEIN FILES DEEP DIVE (PT 2) 🔎📂: THE VICTIMS WHO TRIED TO WARN THE WORLD

    In Part 2 of our Epstein deep dive, we shift the focus to the victims whose stories were on record long before the recent document releases. We walk through the accounts of Annie and Maria Farmer—two of the earliest women to report Jeffrey Epstein to authorities—before examining the 2005 Palm Beach investigation that finally triggered legal action. From the grooming tactics used on vulnerable teenage girls to the role recruiters played inside Epstein’s network, we unpack how the system operated for years in plain sight. We also explore the story of Virginia Giuffre, the survivor whose testimony tied Epstein’s trafficking operation to powerful figures like Prince Andrew. This episode is difficult but necessary: a look at the human cost behind the headlines and the failures that allowed it to continue for so long. Chapters Timestamps: 00:00:00 — Trigger Warning & Episode Introduction ⚠️ 00:04:30 — Annie & Maria Farmer: The First Victims to Report 🚨 00:13:30 — Annie’s New York Trip & Early Grooming 🎭 00:20:30 — The New Mexico Ranch Incident 🐎 00:23:30 — Maria Farmer’s Assault & Attempt to Go to Police 📞 00:28:30 — Why Early Warnings About Epstein Were Ignored 📉 00:36:30 — The Palm Beach Investigation Begins 🏝️ 00:41:00 — Epstein’s Recruitment System Explained 💵 00:49:00 — Victims Forced to Recruit Other Girls 💔 00:56:30 — Virginia Giuffre Enters Epstein’s World 🕸️ 01:01:30 — Prince Andrew Allegations 👑 01:05:30 — Lawsuits, Intimidation & Fighting Back ⚖️

    1h 12m
  4. 4 MAR

    333: EPSTEIN FILES DEEP DIVE (PT 1) 🔎📂: THE RISE AND FALL OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN

    In Part 1 of our Epstein Files deep dive, we unpack the unsettling story of how Jeffrey Epstein rose from a Brooklyn math prodigy to one of the most connected—and controversial—figures in elite circles. We trace the key moments that built his fortune and influence, from Wall Street to his powerful relationships with billionaires like Les Wexner and Leon Black. Along the way, we examine the mysterious circumstances surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell’s entrance into his life and the early warning signs that followed Epstein for decades. Finally, we break down the first major investigation, the shocking sweetheart plea deal that allowed him to avoid serious consequences, and the strange chain of events that ended with his death in federal custody. This episode lays the foundation for the darker details to come in the rest of the series.  TIMESTAMPS 00:00 🔎 Why We’re Covering the Epstein Files 03:40 🧒 Epstein’s Early Life in Brooklyn 05:20 🏫 Dalton School & the First Red Flags 06:30 💰 Wall Street Break: Bear Stearns 09:40 📄 Resume Lies & Early Manipulation 11:00 📈 Rise to Wealth and Power 15:30 💸 The First Known Financial Scams 19:00 👔 Les Wexner and the Billionaire Connection 24:40 🏦 Leon Black and Epstein’s Financial Empire 26:30 🏝️ Epstein’s Properties and Global Lifestyle 27:00 👑 Ghislaine Maxwell’s Background & Father’s Mysterious Death 36:00 🤝 Maxwell and Epstein Form Their Partnership 39:40 ⚠️ The First Criminal Investigation (Palm Beach) 41:30 ⚖️ The Secret Non-Prosecution Agreement 44:00 🚔 Epstein’s Shockingly Lenient Jail Sentence 46:00 🎥 Hidden Cameras and Alleged Blackmail 53:40 ✈️ The 2019 Arrest at Teterboro Airport 55:50 🔍 FBI Raids and Evidence Seized 01:01:00 🕵️ The Suspicious Breakdown in Jail Safeguards 01:02:30 ⚰️ Epstein’s Death and the Questions That Remain 01:04:00 🔮 What We’ll Cover in Part 2 EarlyBird CBD: Visit http://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off. Caraway: Visit https://www.Carawayhome.com/POP and take an additional 10% off your next purchase. HERS: Visit forhers.com/APOLOGISTS to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at https://www.shopify.com/pop  Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at https://www.BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 5m
  5. 26 FEB • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    332: Bill Gates Admits to Affairs, Sofia Franklyn’s book on the Call Her Daddy fallout + our Britney Spears concerns

    Lauren and Chanler break down gaudy Birkin cringe and the Love Is Blind moment that sent the internet spiraling. They get into resurfaced Epstein questions, what Virginia Giuffre’s memoir reveals about power and proximity, and why the CBK and JFK Jr era still captivates. It is a full spectrum episode that moves from unserious internet mess to the stories that make us sick. timestamps: (00:00:00) ✈️ Pookie on a Plane — merch in the wild, influencer sincerity, and secondhand embarrassment (00:03:00) 💸 Becca Bloom Opulence — luxury gifting culture, internet side eye, and wealth cosplay (00:08:26) 👜 Birkin Discourse — bag culture, quiet luxury vs loud flexing, and taste debates (00:11:45) 📺 Love Is Blind Clip — men and their audacity, body politics, and producer meddling (00:21:00) 📰 Bill Gates and Epstein — damage control statements, elite accountability, and PR apologies (00:26:15) 📚 Virginia Giuffre’s Memoir — shocking details, survivor narratives, and what the book surfaces (00:32:08) 💌 CBK and JFK Jr Era — Love Story reactions, letter plot line, and 90s romance mythology (00:44:15) 🕯️ Britney Spears Check In — viral dance videos, fan concern, and public unraveling (00:49:30) 🎙️ Sofia Franklyn’s Memoir — Call Her Daddy fallout, reclaiming the narrative, and podcast wars

    55 min
  6. 24 FEB

    331: JFK JR. & CAROLYN BESSETTE DEEP DIVE ❤️‍🔥 + RHOBH and Q&A

    Lauren and Chanler kick off with fresh sister banter from snowy New YorkCity. They get into recent RHOBH drama (including Rachel Zoe’s standout moments), surprising cast confessions, and the type of reality TV honesty that hits harder than expected. The girls also answer listener questions on money, dating, and celeb news before teeing up a fan-favorite deep dive on Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. for anyone ready to romanticize the 90s all over again. timestamps: (00:00:00) ❄️ Blizzard in New York — storm chaos, DoorDash delusions, and being trapped inside (00:10:00) 🥚 Grocery Store Lies — bougie eggs exposed, food marketing scams, and trust issues (00:16:48) 🍸 RHOBH Hamptons Trip — Kyle Richards, Dorit Kemsley, and why this episode felt vintage (00:20:30) 👠 Rachel Zoe Era — effortless cool, cast chemistry, and why her scenes hit different (00:23:09) 🧘‍♀️ Manifestation Discourse — Amanda’s money mindset, side-eyeing wellness gurus, and Bravo delusion (00:28:20) 💔 Dinner Confessions — Denise Richards and Erika Jayne open up, vulnerability on camera, and hard truths (00:38:14) 🧠 Eric Dane & James Van Der Beek — gone too soon, GoFundMe discourse, and medical reality checks (00:44:27) 💒 Taylor Swift Wedding Theories — aesthetics, vibes, and why expectations are already sky-high (00:47:58) 💳 Money Habits Reset — credit card debt, spending tricks, and small mindset shifts (00:51:56) 💌 CBK & JFK Jr. Deep Dive — why Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. still haunt the culture (01:01:14) 👑 American Royalty — JFK Jr.’s upbringing, public expectations, and living in a permanent spotlight (01:15:40) 🕶️ Carolyn’s Mystique — privacy, fashion mythology, and how her image became the moment (01:21:59) 💼 Meeting the Kennedys — media pressure, Ethel Kennedy’s questions, and the cost of being watched (01:33:44) 🗞️ Engagement Fights — paparazzi culture, narrative-making, and Carolyn vs the Kennedys (01:56:17) 🕊️ The Plane Crash — John’s need to fly, Carolyn’s fear, and a dark night EarlyBird CBD: Visit http://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off. Hero Bread: Go to hero.co and use code POP at checkout. Revolve: Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/POP and use code POP for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner SKIMS: Shop my favorite bras and underwear at http://www.skims.com/pop #skimspartner Booking.com: https://www.booking.com Book today on the site or in the app! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    2h 8m
  7. 20 FEB • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    330: Former Prince Andrew Arrested 🇬🇧, Diving into Virginia Giuffre's "Nobody's Girl" + SLOMW Season 4 Trailer

    🚨 Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault and rape. Listener discretion advised. Lauren and Chanler kick things off with lighter pop culture chaos including Mormon wives drama, Whitney Leavitt’s New York pivot, and the ongoing Hulu "Love Story" discourse. In the back half of the episode, things take a heavier turn as they dig into new developments tied to Jeffrey Epstein, Prince Andrew, and Virginia Giuffre’s book "Nobody’s Girl." Timestamps: (00:05:00) 📶 “justice will find us” — family lawsuit lore, interesting wifi names, and high school embarrassment (00:10:12) 💌 listener comment — Love Story accuracy, dating in the 90s vs now, and the politics of giving your number (00:12:00) 📺 Hulu's Love Story — casting nitpicks, Naomi Watts as Jackie O, and what’s actually working (00:16:57) 📝 Carole Radziwill’s substack — talking Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, privacy in death, and her ‘nothing burger’ article (00:19:44) 🍿 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives — season 4 trailer, Demi’s new creative venture, and Dakota’s return (00:24:45) 🗽 Whitney Leavitt Takes NYC — article in The Cut, ambition vs. “obligation,” and leaving Utah (00:33:35) 👑 Former Prince Andrew arrested — what the suspicion involves and why it’s a historic headline (00:49:52) 📚 Virginia Giuffre’s “Nobody’s Girl” — childhood context, recruitment, and the reality of reading survivor accounts (00:55:00) 🕵️ Ezra Klein’s Epstein Episode — “the infrastructure of power,” enablers, and the emails that made it real

    1h 9m

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