Sounds Good.

Anna Nadeina

Sounds Good is a podcast where I ask the questions you actually wanted answered. I am Anna Nadeina, and I talk to founders and operators about the playbooks, growth hacks, and frameworks the internet swears by — and whether any of it actually worked. Expect real numbers, honest post-mortems, and the occasional confession that the thing everyone recommended was a waste of six months. Topics: SaaS growth, bootstrapped and VC-backed startups, product-led growth, sales-led growth, founder-led marketing, exits and M&A, remote teams, AI tools, indie hackers, building on the internet. A little about me: 3 years Head of Growth at saas.group, 300+ episodes hosting saas.unbound, currently building cucobooks.com. 🎧 All platforms: soundsgoodpod.com ✉️ Pitch a guest or sponsor: anna@soundsgoodpod.com 📬 Get notified of new episodes: soundsgoodpod.com

Episodes

  1. You don't need to go shopping ever again — Felix Hoffmann @ 7Learnings

    1 day ago

    You don't need to go shopping ever again — Felix Hoffmann @ 7Learnings

    Felix Hoffmann has been inside Zalando's pricing engine. Now he's building the tools retail brands need to survive the AI. We talked about what agentic shopping looks like these days, why European platforms are dangerously slow to react, and why asking "how do I use ChatGPT in my company" is completely the wrong question. In this episode: - Why 30–50% of online purchases already start with an AI conversation - The real reason OpenAI paused agentic shopping (hint: Amazon) - How product decisions — not just pricing — will be shaped by what AI assistants recommend - Why Zalando is losing to Amazon - The offline retail impact nobody's talking about yet - Why predictive pricing beats LLM-based pricing for explainability and trust - The chess computer analogy: why specialized AI beats general AI for enterprise use cases - What a €500M investment commitment would actually look like for a European platform to win Felix is one of the clearest thinkers on what AI actually changes in commerce versus what's just noise. Timestamps: 00:00 - The Future of AI in Shopping 03:47 - The Role of Discoverability in Retail 06:47 - Personalization and Production in Fashion 10:58 - The Impact of AI on Consumer Behavior 13:59 - 7Learnings: Optimizing Retail Decisions 16:48 - Consumer Readiness for AI Shopping Assistants 19:35 - The Offline Shopping Experience and AI 22:50 - Luxury Brands and AI Integration 27:43 - The New Gatekeepers of Retail 28:57 - The Competitive Landscape of AI in Shopping 31:02 - Opportunities for Independent Brands 32:14 - Navigating Uncertainty in AI Adoption 36:14 - Strategic AI Investments for Retailers 37:56 - The Risks of Inaction in Retail 40:55 - Pricing Strategies in the Age of AI 46:28 - Trust and Explainability in AI Systems 51:07 - The Future of Decision Automation Felix - https://www.linkedin.com/in/felix-hoffmann-7learnings 7Learnings - https://7learnings.com/ ─── sounds good. — a podcast with Anna Nadeina soundsgoodpod.com anna@soundsgoodpod.com sounds good. is sponsored by saas.group - serial acquirer of profitable SaaS businesses. If you're thinking about an exit, they're worth a conversation. https://saas.group/

    55 min
  2. Your AI product needs an accountability layer — Sai Dhanak @ deduction.com

    30 Jun

    Your AI product needs an accountability layer — Sai Dhanak @ deduction.com

    Most AI companies make big claims. Sai built a guarantee into the business model. Sai Dhanak is the founder of Deduction, an AI tax firm that pairs licensed CPAs with AI agents to deliver tax advice, planning, and filing for US consumers — at a fraction of traditional accountant prices. We talked about what happens when accountability is actually on the line, why services that were "unscalable" are suddenly the hottest pitch in VC rooms, and what the SaaSpocalypse gets completely wrong about junior talent. In this episode: - Why "own the customer outcome" might be the only real moat right now - The CPA shortage nobody's building fast enough for - AI agents with names and phone numbers (meet Taylor at deduction.com) - Why predictable workflows scale and litigation doesn't - The Deduction partner program — a franchise model for the AI era - Whether Google I/O just quietly ate vibe coding for the masses - The real reason companies are laying people off (hint: it's not productivity) - Senior engineers saying they need zero engineers on their team — and whether that ends in burnout Sai is one of those founders who thinks clearly about messy questions. Timestamps: 00:00 - Navigating the AI Landscape 11:06 - The Role of Human Touch in AI Services 21:59 - Building Trust in AI-Driven Tax Services 30:28 - The Need for AI Guidance 31:50 - Integrating AI into Daily Life 32:26 - The Reality of AI Implementation 36:24 - Balancing AI and Human Interaction 37:03 - Data Infrastructure Challenges 40:46 - The Cost of Building vs. Buying Software 44:19 - The Future of Vibe Coding 50:29 - Building Trust in AI Solutions Sai - https://www.linkedin.com/in/saayuj/ Deduction - https://deduction.com/ ─── sounds good. — a podcast with Anna Nadeina soundsgoodpod.com anna@soundsgoodpod.com sounds good. is sponsored by saas.group - serial acquirer of profitable SaaS businesses. If you're thinking about an exit, they're worth a conversation. https://saas.group/

    56 min
  3. Stop the slop. Here's how to do founder-led content — Finn Thormeier @ Project 33

    23 Jun

    Stop the slop. Here's how to do founder-led content — Finn Thormeier @ Project 33

    Good content still wins. Finn Thormeier has spent years building LinkedIn presence for B2B executives and he's got a genuinely uncomfortable take on why most of it fails — and it's not the algorithm. Finn runs Project 33, an executive LinkedIn agency working with B2B founders and C-suite leaders to turn their actual opinions into content that moves pipeline. He's obsessed with the gap between what people think LinkedIn content does and what it actually does. In this episode: - Why AI ghostwriting and human ghostwriting have almost identical failure modes - The real reason LinkedIn reach is dropping (hint: it's supply, not algorithm) - How to train an AI — or a writer — to not produce slop - Why Finn stopped using em dashes and what that tells you about the platform right now - The "VP of Supply Chain" rule: what good engagement actually looks like in B2B - When LinkedIn posting can't save you (and what product-market fit has to do with it) - Where Finn would go if LinkedIn disappeared tomorrow: newsletters, in-person, and why Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 03:59 - The Role of AI in Content Creation 07:01 - Human Touch vs. AI in Content Strategy 09:44 - Navigating AI Biases and Content Quality 12:54 - The Importance of Clear Communication in Content 15:53 - The Shift in Audience Perception of AI Content 19:02 - The Impact of Algorithms on LinkedIn Engagement 22:55 - Understanding Content Effectiveness and ROI 25:48 - Balancing Salesy Content with Value-Driven Posts 28:35 - Final Thoughts on Content Creation and Engagement 36:11 - Finding Balance in Content Creation 41:56 - Navigating LinkedIn and Social Media Burnout 48:42 - Debunking Myths About AI and Content Creation 53:58 - The Shift Towards In-Person Networking 56:28 - Inspiration from Real-Life Experiences If you've ever wondered whether any of this content stuff actually works, this one's worth your time. Finn Thormeier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/finnthormeier/ Project 33 - https://www.project33.io/ ─── sounds good. — a podcast with Anna Nadeina soundsgoodpod.com anna@soundsgoodpod.com sounds good. is sponsored by saas.group - serial acquirer of profitable SaaS businesses. If you're thinking about an exit, they're worth a conversation. https://saas.group/

    1hr 2min
  4. Bootstrapping in an over-funded market — Antoine Minoux @ Fernand

    16 Jun

    Bootstrapping in an over-funded market — Antoine Minoux @ Fernand

    What happens to bootstrapped SaaS when AI levels the playing field — and VC money controls distribution? Antoine Minoux, serial founder and builder of Fernand (a customer support tool for founders doing their own support), gets real about what's actually broken right now: UI as a moat is dead, cold email is harder than it looks, and "distribution is king" is not just a cliché anymore — it's existential. In this episode we cover: - Why Antoine rebuilt Fernand's AI layer (and what his power users are doing instead) - The 3,000-email cold outreach experiment that looked genius and flopped - Bootstrap vs. VC-funded SaaS in 2025 — who actually wins - Why product-market fit is harder to find when everyone has the same AI stack - The case for done-for-you services as SaaS's next pivot - Why "sounds good" and "works well" are two completely different things Timestamps: 00:00:01 - Fernand, a customer support tool. 00:02:23 - Rebuilding with an AI layer. 00:03:07 - Thoughts on rebuilding and innovation. 00:05:17 - Customers not asking for current developments. 00:06:28 - AI can do 90% of the work. 00:08:04 - Not using the interface anymore. 00:09:29 - Uncertainty about UI needs. 00:11:11 - Two hypotheses in the world. 00:13:29 - Brutal market for SMBs. 00:18:42 - Distribution is the main thing. 00:19:51 - Hypothesis about bootstrapping challenges. 00:23:34 - Cold email automation experiment. 00:32:09 - Pricing strategies. 00:51:48 - Final thoughts on adaptability and innovation. If you're a founder who's ever thought "this idea is so smart" and then watched it land with a thud — this one's for you. Antoine Minoux - https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoineminoux/ Fernand - https://getfernand.com/ ─── sounds good. — a podcast with Anna Nadeina soundsgoodpod.com anna@soundsgoodpod.com sounds good. is sponsored by saas.group - serial acquirer of profitable SaaS businesses. If you're thinking about an exit, they're worth a conversation. https://saas.group/

    55 min
  5. Why the Best product doesn't win anymore — Joseph Lee @ Supademo

    9 Jun

    Why the Best product doesn't win anymore — Joseph Lee @ Supademo

    Your product isn't defensible because it's hard to build. The tough news: you're in trouble. Joe Lee, founder of Super (200,000+ users, growing without a sales team), joins Sounds Good to dismantle the idea that technical complexity is a moat. We get into why distribution and brand eminence are what's left, why "we're just watching AI" stance might have been the smartest move of the year, and why "ever-boarding" beats onboarding every single time. In this episode: → Why tech defensibility has collapsed — and what actually replaces it → Is waiting on AI a power move or a mistake? → "Ever-boarding" — Joe's framing for why switching cost beats features → Why ARR can mask structural problems (and what to look at instead) → Buyer personas are converging — enterprise buyers now self-qualify like PLG users → AI is becoming invisible — and why sophisticated buyers stopped caring about the label → The "build with Claude on the weekend" family activity rant → Would you trade shoes with Warren Buffett for $5 billion? Timestamps: 00:00 - Defensibility Is Dead 01:00 - Meet Joe From Supademo 01:11 - SaaS Whiplash Era 03:57 - Escaping The AI Echo Chamber 10:06 - Hype Versus Outcomes 11:53 - Freshline Versus Supademo 15:39 - Founder Market Fit 18:01 - Build In Public For Brand 22:48 - Midmarket Buyer Reality 26:35 - Not Becoming A Feature 28:41 - Moats Brand Distribution Habits 34:05 - Everboarding For Retention 36:52 - IRL Is Back 40:52 - Work Life Balance As ROI 43:32 - Closing Thoughts On AI Anxiety For founders who are tired of being told they're behind, and want a clearer view of what actually compounds. New episodes of Sounds Good every week. Subscribe so you don't miss the next one. 🎙️ Joseph Lee - Supademo - ─── sounds good. — a podcast with Anna Nadeina soundsgoodpod.com anna@soundsgoodpod.com sounds good. is sponsored by saas.group - serial acquirer of profitable SaaS businesses. If you're thinking about an exit, they're worth a conversation. https://saas.group/

    46 min
  6. Don't start SaaS right now — Mike Hill @ Curator.io

    2 Jun

    Don't start SaaS right now — Mike Hill @ Curator.io

    Sounds Good Podcast #1 — Mike Hill on whether bootstrapped SaaS is still worth starting in 2026. His advice to anyone asking him right now: don't. Not because SaaS is dying. He doesn't buy that — neither do I. But the gap between building a product (easier than ever) and getting your first SaaS customer (harder than ever) got pretty broken. Mike Hill is a serial bootstrapper. His newest thing is Smile — a Slack app for sending dorky cards to your team (which I love using!). What we got into: - Why the SaaSpocalypse started five years ago and has nothing to do with AI - The Google-to-ChatGPT shift is wiping out bootstrappers - AI makes senior people better and junior people worse - Lifetime deals stop making sense when token costs are ongoing and buyers already have your competitor's LTD - The day Claude went down and Mike just went home, and what that says about all of us - Why he still recommends every founder who emails him to get a technical co-founder Timestamps: 00:00 - Is SaaS Still Worth Starting? 00:57 - SaaSpocalypse Explained 03:14 - AI Makes Seniors Faster 04:30 - Content Led Growth Edge 06:00 - Why Not Start SaaS 07:47 - AI Search Hurts Discovery 11:11 - Building SaaS for Fun 15:46 - Ship Fast New Process 17:59 - Agent Overload Limits 25:24 - Get a Technical Cofounder 28:21 - AI Skepticism and Hype 29:36 - Reliance and Outage Fear 31:09 - API Risk and Cost Creep 33:09 - Lifetime Deals vs Token Costs 37:35 - SaaS Is Not Dead 45:05 - Competition and Go To Market 48:27 - AI Sidekicks Not Replacements 50:46 - Why AI Design Still Fails 52:02 - Wrap Up If you've been wondering whether you missed the SaaS window, this one's for you. New episodes of Sounds Good every week. Subscribe so you don't miss the next one. Mike Hill — https://www.linkedin.com/in/mymatemike/ Smile — https://smiile.co/ Curator — https://curator.io/ Juuno — https://juuno.co/ #SaaS #Bootstrapping #IndieHackers sounds good. — a podcast with Anna Nadeina soundsgoodpod.com anna@soundsgoodpod.com

    54 min

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Sounds Good is a podcast where I ask the questions you actually wanted answered. I am Anna Nadeina, and I talk to founders and operators about the playbooks, growth hacks, and frameworks the internet swears by — and whether any of it actually worked. Expect real numbers, honest post-mortems, and the occasional confession that the thing everyone recommended was a waste of six months. Topics: SaaS growth, bootstrapped and VC-backed startups, product-led growth, sales-led growth, founder-led marketing, exits and M&A, remote teams, AI tools, indie hackers, building on the internet. A little about me: 3 years Head of Growth at saas.group, 300+ episodes hosting saas.unbound, currently building cucobooks.com. 🎧 All platforms: soundsgoodpod.com ✉️ Pitch a guest or sponsor: anna@soundsgoodpod.com 📬 Get notified of new episodes: soundsgoodpod.com