Tango Tango

The Tango Tango Podcast, or “Top Talks,” isn’t just another veteran-focused show—it’s a front-row seat to real, raw, and unfiltered conversations with those who’ve served and those who support them. Hosted by Lloyd Knight, retired Air Force First Sergeant, Co-Founder & President of VETLANTA, and Veteran Talent Acquisition Manager at UPS, this podcast delivers powerful stories and hard-earned lessons straight from the voices of veterans. In the military, “Top” is the trusted First Sergeant—the leader who ensures the morale, welfare, and discipline of the unit. That same leadership, authenticity, and straight-shooting honesty shape every episode of Tango Tango. Join us for conversations that get to the heart of what it means to serve, transition, and thrive beyond the uniform. Whether you’re a veteran, a supporter, or just someone who values grit, resilience, and real talk, Tango Tango is where you’ll find inspiration, hard truths, and powerful takeaways you won’t hear anywhere else. Tune in. Be inspired. Walk away stronger.

  1. 02/12/2025

    Mission: Better Care — A Talk with CareSource Military featuring Holly Joers

    In this special episode of Tango Tango, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Holly Joers, President, Military and Veterans for CareSource, for an inside look at one of the most important changes impacting military families this year: TRICARE Open Season and the brand-new CareSource Military & Veterans Prime option available in Atlanta and Tampa. Holly shares her remarkable journey—from growing up in small-town West Virginia to a distinguished civil service career across the Air Force, the F-35 program, and the Defense Health Agency—before transitioning into the mission-driven world of CareSource. Her unique background offers rare insight into how healthcare innovation, military culture, and patient-centric design come together in this groundbreaking TRICARE demonstration program. Listeners will learn: What TRICARE is and who is eligibleWhy the new CareSource Prime option matters, including game-changing benefits like no referrals for in-network specialistsHow CareSource leverages decades of experience in whole-person, community-based careThe biggest differences between this demonstration and earlier pilots, including broader provider networks and integrated care teamsHow enrollment works, why it’s fast and easy, and what beneficiaries can expect after signing upHow military families can advocate for expanding choice to other states and regions With TRICARE Open Season ending on December 9, this episode offers timely, practical information for retirees, families, Guard and Reserve members, and veterans who want more control, choice, and convenience in their healthcare. Additional Links & Resources: Connect with Holly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-joers-04ab4783/Learn more about CareSource: www.caresource.comEnroll today: https://www.caresource.com/plans/tricare-prime-demo/eligibility-and-enrollment/#enrollLearn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Learn more about Vetlanta: https://vetlanta.orgLearn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk This episode of Tango Tango was hosted by Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Coredes, Joshua Miranda, nd Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated episode page at: https://supplychainnow.com/mission-better-care-talk-caresource-military-1tt15

    42 min
  2. 25/11/2025

    Veterans Day Special: A Salute to Tango Tango, Season 1

    In a year defined by service, storytelling, and the power of community, Tango Tango’s first season put authentic veteran voices front and center. From Special Operations legends to storytellers preserving history, the series explored what it actually takes to translate military experience into meaningful civilian impact. In this special Season 1 Veteran’s Day wrap-up, Supply Chain Now’s Scott Luton joins Tango Tango’s own Lloyd Knight to unpack the year: why active listening is a podcaster’s superpower, what organizations get wrong (and right) about veteran hiring, and how Season 2 will go bigger with 20 episodes and even more consequential stories. Scott and Lloyd discuss the differences between Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day; three practical best practices for recruiting veteran talent; and highlights from standout episodes, from Pat McNamara’s raw, veteran-to-veteran conversation to Atomic Echoes, the PBS documentary that bridges U.S. servicemembers and survivors in Japan. They also preview Season 2 guests, live tapings, and crossovers with Supply Chain Now. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:38) Scott and Lloyd open the Veterans Day special (00:52) Reflecting on their long-running friendship and work (02:48) Best and worst chow hall stories (09:08) Veterans Day vs. Memorial Day vs. Armed Forces Day (12:26) Lloyd’s best practices for hiring veterans (22:24) Lessons learned from hosting season one (22:34) Mentorship, production support, and better listening (24:53) Season one highlights and standout guests (25:07) Behind the scenes of the Pat McNamara episode (27:58) Exploring the Atomic Echoes documentary and its themes (36:48) Season two previews and upcoming guests (39:58) Simple, actionable ways to honor veterans Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Subscribe to the With That Said newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/with-that-said-6966779254495723520/ Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightLearn more about Vetlanta: https://vetlanta.orgLearn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. This episode was hosted by Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/veterans-day-special-salute-tango-tango-season-1-1tt14

    44 min
  3. 23/09/2025

    Atomic Echoes: Preserving the Voices of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

    In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes authors and filmmakers Karin Tanabe and Victoria Kelly to share the journey behind their PBS documentary Atomic Echoes. With family histories connected to both sides of World War II, Victoria’s grandfather served as a medic in Nagasaki and Karin’s grandfather was a Japanese soldier, the longtime friends uncover powerful stories of resilience, reconciliation, and hope. They discuss how the project began, the challenges of interviewing veterans and survivors, and the intensive research required to capture voices long overlooked. From faith communities in Japan to American veterans who were never recognized for their post-war service, Atomic Echoes offers a respectful and human lens on history. Karin and Victoria also reflect on the lessons they gained from the filmmaking process, from fundraising to finishing the project in just 11 months. More than a story about the past, their film underscores the urgent need for peace and the unifying power of storytelling today. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (02:05) Meet Victoria Kelly (05:23) Meet Karin Tanabe (10:45) The making of Atomic Echoes (18:38) Challenges in finding veterans (22:23) Veterans’ desire to share their stories (23:19) Planting trees and symbolic acts (25:07) Inspirational stories from the journey (29:47) Learning from the filmmaking process (32:23) The intersection of history and hope Additional Links & Resources: Connect with Victoria Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-kelly-618b4314a/ Connect with Karin Tanabe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karintanabe/ Learn more about Atomic Echoes: https://www.pbs.org/show/atomic-echoes-untold-stories-from-world-war-ii/ Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/atomic-echoes-preseving-voices-hiroshima-nagasaki-1tt13

    40 min
  4. 09/09/2025

    Kingdom Operatives featuring Adam Jones

    In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Army veteran, Black Hawk pilot, author, and founder of Kingdom Operatives, Adam Jones. Adam shares his inspiring journey from growing up near Mario Andretti’s hometown in Pennsylvania to fulfilling his childhood dream of flying Black Hawks in the Army National Guard, overcoming unexpected challenges, and ultimately embracing a new calling to help others. Adam opens up about the struggles he faced balancing military life, family, and personal identity, including the moments of deep inner conflict that nearly cost his marriage and life. Through powerful mentorship and faith, he found a path to healing and transformation, leading him to write his book "Weapons of Mass Deception" and build Kingdom Operatives to equip leaders and veterans to break free from silent struggles and build resilience. From his military experiences to his commitment to sharing his story as a message of hope, Adam offers profound insights into overcoming drift, embracing purpose, and leading with authenticity both in and out of uniform. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (04:12) Growing up in Nazareth (10:48) Penn State, ROTC, Army National Guard (12:39) Becoming an Army Black Hawk pilot (21:12) Meeting wife in DC and navigating changes (26:22) Struggles with identity and family tension (31:41) Anger, low points, and turning toward seeking help (37:25) Mentorship, healing, and restoring relationships (46:44) Founding Kingdom Operatives and helping veterans overcome struggles Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Adam Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leadwithadamLearn more about Kingdom Operatives: https://kingdomoperatives.comJoin the Kingdom Operatives community: https://skool.com/kingdomoperativesLearn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/kingdom-operatives-1tt12

    1h 4m
  5. 26/08/2025

    Hire Heroes USA - Supporting the Military Transition

    In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Ross Dickman, CEO of Hire Heroes USA. Ross shares his journey from West Point to Army aviation, flying AH-64 Apaches with the 1st Cavalry Division, and deploying to Camp Taji, Iraq. He reflects on lessons from the cockpit, an aide-de-camp tour at the Army Safety Center, and a return to West Point as a TAC officer—experiences that shaped how he leads and how he thinks about life after service. Now leading Hire Heroes USA, Ross focuses on employment as the foundation of post-service well-being. He talks about practical tools: clear, targeted resumes, mock interviews with real hiring managers, technology that keeps people in the process, and a push toward skills-based hiring, along with the power of partnerships and volunteers, and why providing free, lifetime career support to veterans and military spouses still drives his mission today. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:51) Ross Dickman’s background as veteran leader (03:33) Childhood in a dedicated army family (05:56) Overcoming challenges at West Point Academy (12:44) Deciding on a long-term military career (16:27) Training experiences in flight school and Apaches (26:11) Career growth and responsibilities at Fort Hood (30:01) West Point’s role in leadership development (32:10) Lessons from civilian job search struggles (37:35) Starting a career with Hire Heroes (40:19) How Hire Heroes impacts veteran employment (45:56) Daily leadership responsibilities at Hire Heroes (49:09) Meeting the Secretary of Veterans Affairs (51:25) Future goals for veteran career support Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Ross Dickman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossdickman Learn more about Hire Heroes USA: https://www.hireheroesusa.com Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/hire-heroes-usa-supporting-military-transition-1tt11

    59 min
  6. 12/08/2025

    Army Public Affairs Hall of Fame

    In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Army Public Affairs Hall of Famer Gail McCabe. Gail shares her journey from working in Hollywood to becoming one of the Army’s first civilian broadcast journalists. She reflects on covering missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, including two attacks that earned her the Defense of Freedom Medal. Her stories, from tank competitions in Germany to humanitarian efforts in war zones, highlight the power of journalism to preserve history and honor sacrifice. Now retired, Gail continues her storytelling through her company, CreativeMediaMatters. She talks about the emotional impact of covering conflict, the lessons she’s carried with her, and why helping others understand the human side of military service still drives her today. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:36) Meet Gail McCabe: A hall of famer’s journey (01:07) Gail’s early life and love story (02:23) From Hollywood to the Army (05:14) Broadcast journalism and covering the military (06:55) Covering sports and community stories (08:41) Desert Storm and humanitarian missions (17:16) The first defense of freedom medal (28:44) Medical missions in remote areas (30:56) An unexpected attack and its aftermath (38:26) Humanitarian missions around the world (42:41) Gail’s transition to civilian life (52:36) Career highlights and recognitions Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Gail McCabe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gailmccabe/  Learn more about CreativeMediaMatters: https://creativemediamatters.com/ Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/army-public-affairs-hall-fame-1tt10

    58 min
  7. 29/07/2025

    Battle Bars featuring Alex Witt

    In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Navy veteran and entrepreneur Alex Witt, CEO of Battle Bars. From sleeping on metal grating in Iraq to building a multi-million-dollar logistics business—and walking away from it all—Alex shares the path that led him to start a mission-driven brand focused on integrity, nostalgia, and purpose. Alex opens up about joining the Navy just before 9/11, the sense of guilt that pushed him to deploy, and the turning point that came after the tragic loss of a close friend. That heartbreak would eventually lead to a new purpose through Battle Bars, a company rooted in veteran values and a commitment to doing things differently. From making sales calls and shipping orders himself to building partnerships with Barstool Sports and Lifetime Fitness, Alex offers powerful insights into what it takes to lead with passion, resilience, and authenticity on and off the battlefield. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (01:43) Chicago and Cubs fandom (05:08) Military journey begins (07:24) Bootcamp and 9/11 experience (09:09) Deployment to Spain (12:27) Transition to mobile security (13:17) Deployment to Iraq (17:25) Post-military career beginnings (23:12) A life-changing tragedy (23:59) A new path: From business to fulfillment (25:14) The birth of Battle Bars (26:13) Challenges and triumphs in the protein bar market (27:43) Innovative flavors and partnerships (35:30) Expanding the business (37:46) Supporting veterans and future plans Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Alex Witt:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-witt-6a7a8b7a/ Learn more about Battle Bars: https://battlebars.com/ Learn more about 104010 Fitness: https://www.104010fitness.com/ Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/battle-bars-alex-witt-1tt9

    46 min
  8. 22/07/2025

    Why Workplace Culture Matters More Than Your Paycheck

    In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, hosts Lloyd Knight and Scott W. Luton discuss workplace culture, one of the most overlooked elements of career success. From defining what culture really means to sharing hard truths about toxic environments, Lloyd draws on over 14 years of experience teaching culture to veterans and corporate teams. They talk about why many job seekers overlook culture, how leadership can affect your health, and what signs to look for when evaluating a company. Lloyd also shares stories from his own transition from the Air Force to UPS, including how outdated policies had to evolve to attract and retain top talent. Whether you’re a veteran preparing to enter the civilian workforce or a leader trying to improve team performance, this episode offers real-world examples, personal lessons, and a powerful reminder that culture isn’t a perk, it’s a priority. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (01:15) Defining workplace culture (02:59) Formal definition of workplace culture (03:38) Implied vs. expressly defined culture (04:07) Constructive dissatisfaction at UPS (05:05) The impact of toxic work environments (06:43) Advice for job seekers (08:48) The role of recognition in employee performance (09:42) Veteran retention in corporate america (10:28) The impact of management on employee health (13:14) Handling toxic work environments (14:22) Why workplace culture matters (16:48) Elements impacting workplace culture (24:12) Characteristics of amazing workplace cultures (29:26) The unique roster of guests Additional Links & Resources: Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightLearn more about VETLANTA: https://vetlanta.orgLearn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/why-workplace-culture-matters-more-paycheck-1tt8

    33 min

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The Tango Tango Podcast, or “Top Talks,” isn’t just another veteran-focused show—it’s a front-row seat to real, raw, and unfiltered conversations with those who’ve served and those who support them. Hosted by Lloyd Knight, retired Air Force First Sergeant, Co-Founder & President of VETLANTA, and Veteran Talent Acquisition Manager at UPS, this podcast delivers powerful stories and hard-earned lessons straight from the voices of veterans. In the military, “Top” is the trusted First Sergeant—the leader who ensures the morale, welfare, and discipline of the unit. That same leadership, authenticity, and straight-shooting honesty shape every episode of Tango Tango. Join us for conversations that get to the heart of what it means to serve, transition, and thrive beyond the uniform. Whether you’re a veteran, a supporter, or just someone who values grit, resilience, and real talk, Tango Tango is where you’ll find inspiration, hard truths, and powerful takeaways you won’t hear anywhere else. Tune in. Be inspired. Walk away stronger.

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