unSILOed with Greg LaBlanc

Greg La Blanc

unSILOed is a series of interdisciplinary conversations that inspire new ways of thinking about our world. Our goal is to build a community of lifelong learners addicted to curiosity and the pursuit of insight about themselves and the world around them.*unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.*

  1. 19 hr ago

    681. Dining with Purpose: Exploring Taste and Tradition with Scott Samuelson

    Scott Samuelson is a professor of philosophy at Iowa State University and the author of several books. His latest work is called To Taste: On Cooking and the Good Life. Greg asks Scott about his views on why philosophy and aesthetics have sidelined food and actual taste in favor of nutrition, consumer preference, or narrow ethics. Scott argues food, cooking, and communal meals are central to human meaning, ethics, and hospitality, and that taste is a form of wisdom joining truth, goodness, and beauty while bridging the labels of subjective, objective, and intersubjective judgment.  He links taste to style through cooking as an active practice of tasting and adjusting, critiques consumer capitalism’s push toward radical aesthetic subjectivity and “food porn,” and the subject of tradition as an evolving conversation. They also connect food to education via metaphors of digestion, emphasizing initiation, attention, and the cultivation of judgment and style, and Scott defends ‘festivity’ and ‘shared meals' as two foundations for intimacy and flourishing. *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes:Is it possible to be intimate with someone that you've never eaten with? 57:28 [Greg LaBlanc]: Do you think that it's possible to be intimate with someone that you've never eaten with? Is it possible to be a friend with somebody that you've never sat down and had a meal? I find it hard to imagine in a way. 57:45 [Scott Samuelson] I mean, it's almost impossible to imagine having deep connections, intimate connections with family members, with friends, with a lover that doesn't involve sharing a food and drink on a pretty regular basis, actually. And it's not simply that, "Oh, well, you need to eat," and whatever. It's that, that becomes a scene in which, the intimacy plays out, sometimes at its most fundamental level. The family dinner conversations, or the drinks with the friend or the great meal with your lover or whatever, those are things that are fundamental to what it is. We’re not just consumers of food 20:01: We've thought about things as we thought about ourselves as consumers, and I want us to think of ourselves not just as consumers, but as cooks, not just as eaters, but as makers of food. And that to me is a better lens for thinking about a good life. Taste is meeting of the subjective and objective 09:50: The beauty of taste is that it is precisely the meeting of the subjective and the object. It's putting an object into my subjective mouth, and it's the meeting of those two things. So there's an objective component, there's a subjective component, and there's an intersubjective component as well that one can't really develop one's taste independent of a community, I think, of taste at some level. But just again, to speak fairly bluntly and straightforwardly, I just think the development of taste is just one of the best things in life. Show Links:Recommended Resources: EpistemologyXeniaAlfred North WhiteheadThe Taste of ThingsM. F. K. FisherCotton MatherBlaise PascalGuest Profile: Faculty Profile at Iowa State UniversityScottSamuelsonAuthor.comWikipedia ProfileGuest Work: Amazon Author PageTo Taste: On Cooking and the Good LifeSeven Ways of Looking at Pointless Suffering: What Philosophy Can Tell Us about the Hardest Mystery of AllRome as a Guide to the Good Life: A Philosophical Grand TourThe Deepest Human Life: An Introduction to Philosophy for EveryoneIf you enjoyed this show, here are some other unSILOed episodes you may like: 604: Scott Samuelson - The Intersection of Philosophy and Suffering: From the Stoics to ModernityPaula Marantz CohenJulian Baggini48: Rob Dunn - Understanding Food Science: The Role of Evolution and Nature in our Diet Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    681. Dining with Purpose: Exploring Taste and Tradition with Scott Samuelson
  2. 2 days ago

    680. Decoding Change Management in the Workplace with Ashley Goodall

    Ashley Goodall is a longtime consultant, Fortune 50 executive, speaker, researcher, and writer in the areas of leadership and human resources. His two books are Nine Lies About Work: A Freethinking Leader’s Guide to the Real World and The Problem with Change: And the Essential Nature of Human Performance. Greg and Ashley discuss how rapid transformation, especially with AI, often worsens work because human employees are wired for stability, ritual, predictability, and belonging. Change and improvement are not synonyms. They discuss creating “equilibrium under varying load” by making decision processes transparent, offering voice without confusing it with vote, and giving people information to improve predictions, since bad news is often preferable to no news.  Ashley notes how leaders underinvest in people due to short-termism, and layoffs and constant uncertainty damage both remaining employees and health. He emphasizes building many great teams, choosing and training team leaders well, recognizing excellence publicly, making contributions legible to boost self-efficacy, and reorienting HR toward long-term human performance and organizational prosperity as administrative work is automated. *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: Transparency matters during change 17:35: I find the most effective sort of safety signal at work is not, "Trust me, it'll be fine," but, "Here's what we're wrestling with." I think you can substitute transparency into what factors leaders are juggling for a promise that it'll all turn out well. I think the challenge with lots and lots of organizational leadership is leaders feel they can't say what's going on. And in the absence of an understanding of what's going on, employees are like, "Listen, I don't trust the beautifully wordsmithed stuff that your communications people write for you to say to me, and that seems to be intended to avoid lawsuits, not intended to help me understand the world.” Why people struggle with change 04:04: Whether we like it or not, change makes life difficult for people. We are wired as a species in a way that appreciates stability, appreciates knowing where we are, appreciates knowing where things are going. The complicated reality of AI at work 02:49: Now we're talking to one another in a world where digital transformation is, you from our current attention span, about eighty-nine percent AI. That's what's transforming stuff. And the experience of AI in the workplace is deeply complicated. I don't see workers, employees rushing around going, "This stuff is fabulous. Give us more of it." The sentiment is, "I'm burned out. I've got to manage all these agents all the time. I didn't sign up to be a manager. I don't know whether this stuff is any good. My company is forcing me to use it irrespective of whether I think I should use it." So, the on-the-ground experience of these tools is decidedly mixed. Show Links: Recommended Resources: The Death and Life of Great American Cities Change Management Centrifugal Governor Watt Steam Engine Peter Cappelli Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Who Moved My Cheese? Whitehall Study Deloitte Guest Profile: AshleyGoodall.com LinkedIn Profile Social Profile on Instagram Guest Work: Amazon Author Page Nine Lies About Work: A Freethinking Leader’s Guide to the Real World The Problem with Change: And the Essential Nature of Human Performance If you enjoyed this show, here are some other unSILOed episodes you may like: 597: Donald C. Kieffer - Transforming Work Culture: From Firefighting to Strategic Flow 337: Simon Johnson - Navigating the Waves of Technology and Prosperity Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    680. Decoding Change Management in the Workplace with Ashley Goodall
  3. 27 Aug

    679. Happy Spending and Joyful Climate Action with Elizabeth Dunn

    Elizabeth Dunn is a professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia, and director of their Happiness Lab. She’s also the co-author of two books, Leave the Lights On: How Joyful Decisions Can Save Our Species and Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending. Greg and Elizabeth discuss how her work links common errors in forecasting happiness with misunderstandings about carbon impact. Elizabeth argues that experiences generally bring more lasting joy than material goods do because of comparison and hedonic adaptation. However, savoring and creating scarcity can renew enjoyment. She shares experiments showing people become happier when spending money on others, with studies where participants were given cash and a TED-backed $10,000 project where other-focused spending and charitable donations produced the greatest happiness.  On climate, Elizabeth says guilt and fear exhaust people, and a better plan would be “more math, less moralizing,” focusing on high-impact actions like commuting choices, housing size and location relative to work, and travel decisions (nonstop flights, carry-on). She also debunks myths about straws and individual AI use, highlights contagious positive behaviors like solar adoption, defends having children, and emphasizes voting and civic action as key ways to make a difference alongside individual change. And for curious car fans, Greg’s college and current car is a 1983 Mercedes 240d, which is described as a legendary, over-engineered diesel sedan built on the indestructible W123 platform.  *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: Why time is more valuable than money 37:27: People who prioritize time over money end up happier than people who prioritize money over time. So, for example, we followed students who were graduating from the University of British Columbia. We measured whether they tended to prioritize time or tended to prioritize money, and what we discovered was that students who reported prioritizing time at the end of their university career ended up happier one to two years after graduating, and that was because they chose to engage in more intrinsically enjoyable activities, like choosing a graduate school or a job that they found intrinsically enjoyable and motivating. And I would just say on sort of the climate side of things, for many people who care about climate change, being able to take a job that enables them to contribute on this topic is something that could be really valuable.  How climate action can make us happier 29:09: Climate change is scary, and it is something that can make people very concerned, but recognizing this threat is actually a wonderful opportunity to change our lives in ways that can actually make us happier. On focusing on what actually matters 30:05: Since actually doing all of this research and learning a lot more about climate change, what I've learned is that I could actually leave all the lights on in my two-bedroom condo for the rest of my life, and the carbon emissions would be equivalent to eating 13 hamburgers... And so some of the things that people are kind of wagging their fingers about don't really matter, and there are all these other actions that really do matter that are quite impactful and can actually make us feel good. And, in fact, we don't need to shame other people into doing them. Show Links: Recommended Resources: Scarcity Mindset Chris Anderson - TED The Deadweight Loss of Christmas Greta Thunberg Carbon Footprint Calculate Your Carbon Footprint Guest Profile: Faculty Profile at the University of British Columbia Profile on Wikipedia Social Profile on X Guest Work: Amazon Author Page Leave the Lights On: How Joyful Decisions Can Save Our Species Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending If you enjoyed this show, here are some other unSILOed episodes you may like: 442: Michael Norton - Enhancing Community and Connection with Rituals Sonja Lyubomirsky Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    679. Happy Spending and Joyful Climate Action with Elizabeth Dunn
  4. 24 Aug

    678. Exploring Exponential Organizations with Salim Ismail

    Salim Ismail is a co-founder & partner at Exponential Venture Capital, founder of OpenExO, founding Executive Director at Singularity University, and an author. His latest work is, Exponential Organizations: Why new organizations are ten times better, faster, and cheaper than yours (and what to do about it). Greg and Salim discuss Salim’s shift from focusing on exponential technologies to organizational design as the main bottleneck to organizations adopting disruption. He traces the idea to his experience leading innovation at Yahoo, where disruptive ideas were rejected by a corporate “immune system,” and to building Singularity University with a tiny team, which led him to study fast-scaling unicorns and develop the Exponential Organizations (ExO) model.  They also talk about how legacy firms optimize for predictability and efficiency, making them hostile to disruption, and why change must often happen at the edge via spin-outs (e.g., Nespresso, Google X, Apple teams). Salim argues that AI agents will replace much middle management coordination (60–80% in 5–7 years), making judgment and accountability scarce, reshaping universities and expertise, and accelerating permissionless, low-cost innovation and startups. *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: Is the end of middle management coming? 30:59: Middle management does two things: it takes decisions from above and cascades them down, and it takes information from down and feeds it up. Okay? It's all coordination, and AI can do all that coordination at a hundred X faster, cheaper, more accurately than a human being can do it. Erik Brynjolfsson, I think, has the best frame for it. He calls it white-collar drudgery, right? Nobody needs to be assembling sales report from five regions and then passing it up just to the chief sales officer. Nobody really wants to be doing that, but somebody's got to do it. And there's that whole human hierarchy and coordination function in Cosian thinking. AI replaces most of that, so we think middle management evaporates by about a sixty to eighty percent level over the next five to seven years. The world is driven by disruption, not efficiency 13:39: Today the world is not driven by efficiency and predictability, it is driven by disruption... Human hierarchical structure does not work in a world that's changing quickly. And as AI comes along, it breaks it completely. Innovation has to happen at the edge 19:40: You've got to spin off. That's the only thing to do it. So the only solution to this, and I've looked at the innovation process of probably, I've been in the boardroom of probably two hundred of the Fortune five hundred over the last decade. There's only one path, which is you do disruptive things at the edge away from the mothership and let that become the new gravity center. That's it. That's the only way you can make it work. Show Links: Recommended Resources: Coase Theorem Manu Chandaria John Seely Brown Valve Corporation Geoffrey Hinton Moore's Law Vitalik Buterin Byzantine Fault Guest Profile: SalimIsmail.com LinkedIn Profile Wikipedia Profile Social Profile on X Singularity University Exponential Venture Capital Open ExO Guest Work: Amazon Author Page Exponential Organizations: Why new organizations are ten times better, faster, and cheaper than yours (and what to do about it) Exponential Organizations 2.0: The New Playbook for 10x Growth and Impact Exponential Transformation: Evolve Your Organization (and Change the World) Massive Transformative Purpose — The Heartbeat of Every ExO - Medium Post If you enjoyed this show, here are some other unSILOed episodes you may like: Sangeet Paul Choudary John Hagel III Pascal Finette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    678. Exploring Exponential Organizations with Salim Ismail
  5. 17 Aug

    677. AI-Driven Futures: Business Strategies for the Digital Age with Carlos Escapa

    Carlos Escapa is a venture partner at Across Legal and Masia VC, an AI expert, investor, and former technology leader at Meta and Amazon AWS. He is also the co-author of The AI Driven Business: Leading, Competing and Thriving in the Age of Artificial Intelligence. Greg and Carlos discuss why AI adoption is primarily an organizational and talent challenge rather than a pure technology play. Carlos argues companies need a “talent flywheel” to complement their  “data flywheel,” CEO-led change, and strong data culture; many pilots fail when organizations can’t adapt roles, workflows, and governance. They discuss continuity vs discontinuity in AI (transformers and reasoning as shifts), agentification vs automation, and the risks of vibe coding: including security, maintenance, and tacit-knowledge dependence.  Carlos emphasizes that value accrues mainly to applications powered by proprietary data and better data infrastructure (catalogs, access, ontologies), not necessarily frontier model vendors, and has an optimistic view on the relevance of enterprise SaaS due to efficiency and cost. Their conversation also highlights burnout, mental health, and the need for more humanistic workplaces as AI scales. *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: Is AI really a technology problem? 02:29: AI is not so much a technology play. When we talk about digital transformation, we say that in our classes, right? It is much more of a mindset, and getting an organization and people prepared for the adoption of the technology is something where most companies lag behind. And, you know, truth be told, when you have such new technology as AI, and big data have been, it takes a while for the organization to catch up. Automation makes humans more vulnerable 22:20: The more you automate these low-level tasks, the more important it's going to be to drive what makes us really human, all this creativity, the ability to dream, and to do more together. What can’t AI do? 23:02: Let's not exaggerate what artificial intelligence can do. It's a very limited technology. It is a wonderful technology, but it has a lot of limitations. And one of these limitations is that it does not understand cause and effect. When we have a world that is changing so rapidly, the sort of changes that we are experiencing at the moment are unprecedented in history. Data culture drives AI success 27:30: The companies who have proprietary data are the ones that are making the biggest value capture in the market at the moment. But I think yes. So the answer would be yes, as long as they have the data culture inside of the company. Show Links: Recommended Resources: Satya Nadella Vibe Coding Marc Benioff Amazon Web Services Warren Buffett SAAS - Software as a service What is a Data Lake Kimi K3 Jensen Huang Guest Profile: LinkedIn Profile AAE Speakers Profile Across Legal Profile Masia VC Guest Work: The AI Driven Business: Leading, Competing and Thriving in the Age of Artificial Intelligence If you enjoyed this show, here are some other unSILOed episodes you may like: 672: Vivienne Ming - Robot-Proof Yourself: Navigating AI's Impact on Work and Life 487: Gary Marcus - Challenging AI’s Capabilities 497: Arvind Narayanan - Spotting The Difference Between AI Innovation and AI Snake Oil 476: Juan M. Lavista Ferres - AI's Potential for Positive Social Change Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    677. AI-Driven Futures: Business Strategies for the Digital Age with Carlos Escapa
  6. 14 Aug

    676. Failing Fast and Learning Hard with Pascal Finette

    If how much you learn is directly correlated to how much you fail, how do organizations crack the science behind using failure to their advantage? Pascal Finette is the co-founder of Radical, an advisory firm that helps organizations turn disruption into competitive advantage. He’s also the author of several books including, Disrupt Disruption: How to Decode the Future, Disrupt Your Industry, and Transform Your Business and OUTLEARN: The Art of Learning Faster Than the World Can Change.  In this episode, Pascal shares with Greg the lessons he picked up working for Mozilla, reframing failure as the “first attempt in learning,” the importance of psychological safety in the workplace, and what organizations can do to make learning cheap and fast.  *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: Why assumptions fall apart 06:11: The challenge I have is that we build so much of our lives and our products and services we design on assumptions. And because we feel like it is too hard to test these assumptions, we just bake them in as factual knowledge. And then, once they hit reality, they do not survive the contact with reality, and they fall apart. So, it behooves us to figure out what our assumptions are and figure out a way to test those assumptions the quickest, cheapest, easiest way. The formula for faster learning 07:55: The core formula in this book, ‘Outlearn,’ is very simple. It's the speed of learning is inversely proportional to the cost of failure. So make learning cheap, and you learn faster. To do that, and I think that is the big part, is you need to figure out what you are actually testing and break it down into smaller components. On focusing on learning, not failure 11:17: Language is really important, and I think there is this piece where you want to slow down a tiny bit and just think about, "What did we learn?" instead of the failing part. Because learning anchors stuff in your prefrontal cortex, the creative part of your brain. Show Links: Recommended Resources: Firefox Amy Edmondson Obi Felten Pandora (service) Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary by Geoffrey Cain Dashun Wang, Google Scholar Guest Profile: Staff Profile at radical Professional Website Professional Profile on LinkedIn Guest Work: Disrupt Disruption: How to Decode the Future, Disrupt Your Industry, and Transform Your Business  OUTLEARN: The Art of Learning Faster Than the World Can Change  960: A short book about the time you have left If you enjoyed this show, here are some other unSILOed episodes you may like: How To Fail The Right Way with Amy Edmondson Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    676. Failing Fast and Learning Hard with Pascal Finette
  7. 10 Aug

    675. Even Medieval Monks Had Trouble Concentrating with Jamie Kreiner

    Even without the attention-consuming technology we’re immersed in today, humans have always been easily distractible. So what distracted the mindful monks of the past? And are there lessons from the monks’ practice that we can apply to today’s level of distraction?   Jamie Kreiner is a history professor at UCLA and the author of The Wandering Mind: What Medieval Monks Tell Us About Distraction. In the book, she details the strategies monks used to improve concentration and connects the past to the present – examining why the human mind has persistently been prone to wandering.  Jamie and Greg discuss monks’ theories of distractibility and why concentration mattered for salvation, ethical obligation, and getting beyond self-fixation. The conversation also contrasts monastic aims with Stoicism and Buddhist mindfulness, and considers what modern people can learn from the monastic approach. *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: How monks managed distractions internally 23:02: This is a really basic but really profoundly smart way that monks tackled having thoughts they did not want to have. So rather than kind of ignoring them or hoping they are not real or just not paying attention at all and letting something fester and get bigger, you sort of act as a bouncer or a screener of anything that comes through, and you have to evaluate with each one, "Do I want this here? Is this a good thing?" And sometimes that can be really hard. Sometimes they thought that work of deciding whether something was good or bad was so difficult you actually needed to consult another person about it, like a mentor. We would think of it maybe as a therapist now, but they had a very different idea of what that kind of mentoring involved. Books like technology can be distracting too 29:40: Books are really essential to that initial process of learning, meditating, and internalizing, and part of the memory training involves interacting with books in these ways. But it was also, like any piece of tech, distracting on its own. How monks strengthened attention over time 26:59: Probably the most basic difference is that they just treated the memory like we would treat a muscle or something. It needed exercise, it needed training. You had to keep it in good shape if you wanted it to behave properly. So the memory for them was both a storage unit, but also a kind of construction site or toolkit that could work with the memories. It had to be a kind of exploratory place to build new ideas out of. So you would train the memory in two different ways. One was training it to store things that you actually wanted to retrieve. They knew it was really hard to get rid of memories, but if you kept stocking new ones that mattered or kept revisiting the ones that you thought were most important, that would more effectively, over time, edge out the things that you thought were intrusive.  Show Links: Recommended Resources: Stoicism Akrasia  Monasticism Guest Profile: Faculty Profile at UCLA Google Scholar Profile Guest Work: The Wandering Mind: What Medieval Monks Tell Us About Distraction  Legions of Pigs in the Early Medieval West Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    675. Even Medieval Monks Had Trouble Concentrating with Jamie Kreiner
  8. 7 Aug

    674. What Most People Misunderstand About Persuasion & How to Get It Right with Josh Bandoch

    It might sound counterintuitive, but when it comes to the art of persuasion, using a logic-first approach is the last thing you want to do. This is because, in reality, every human being is wired to feel first, and reason later.  Josh Bandoch is Senior Vice President for Policy Research at the Foundation for Research Into Equal Opportunity and has spent years becoming a master of persuasion. His latest book, How to Get What You Want: Mastering the Art and Science of Persuasion, is the ultimate guide to understanding the techniques that will actually move people, and the science behind why.  In this episode, Greg and Josh discuss the critical role of emotional intelligence in effective persuasion, how to listen and engage with your audience, “the granny test,” and how Montesquieu’s teachings on particularism can apply to persuasion.   *unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.* Episode Quotes: Research rigor isn't enough on its own [05:44] We want to marry the IQ that the research rigor, the intellectualism gives us, you have to marry that with emotional intelligence. Because you could have the most rigorously researched paper in the history of mankind and if you deliver that in a way that is not emotionally intelligent, might or might be emotionally unintelligent, then it’s going to be counterproductive. So, you need to marry those two together and think about how you deliver this information in a way that your audience receives it warmly and they’re willing to actually do something that you want them to do with it. That’s where the sweet spot is. Every human being is wired to feel first, and reason later.  [05:12] All a billion of us are wired to feel first then reason. Sometimes it’s feel then reason. Sometimes it’s a feeling we never get to reasoning. And moreover, people who tragically suffer brain damage and lose the ability to emote, they actually see their reasoning impaired, which means that the logic-first approach to persuasion is actually illogical. Why we can't stop talking about ourselves [12:02] There are five aspects of our cognitive wiring that are foundational to persuasion that are central to the book. One is that it’s about them, not you, but we’re wired to think and talk all about ourselves, which isn’t persuasive. So, we’re wired to think and talk about ourselves. Talking about ourselves generates the same sensations in our brain as sex and money. It feels really good. And it’s just, it’s a survival mechanism. So, like if we don’t think a talk about ourselves, who’s going to? Quite possibly nobody.  On what he thinks about AI being more persuasive than humans.  [51:52] I’m open to the prospect that the average AI can be more persuasive than the average human because maybe the average human doesn’t bring the calm, or maybe there are some basic, sort of, persuasion tools that AI can use. I still don’t think, and I don’t think we’ll ever be at the point where the most persuasive AI is going to be as good as the most persuasive humans. And even if we are, it’s still the humans who are making the decisions.  Show Links: Recommended Resources: Thinking, Fast and Slow How to be more persuasive | Joshua Bandoch | TEDxIllinois Tech Milton Friedman Modes of persuasion The Spirit of Law  Immanuel Kant John Locke Guest Profile: Vice President Profile at The Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity Professional Website Professional Profile on LinkedIn Guest Work: How to Get What You Want: Mastering the Art and Science of Persuasion  The Politics of Place: Montesquieu, Particularism, and the Pursuit of Liberty Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    674. What Most People Misunderstand About Persuasion & How to Get It Right with Josh Bandoch

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