Mastering Therapy

Natalie Stott

Welcome to the Mastering Therapy Podcast with me, Dr. Natalie Stott, a clinical psychologist. If you're a psychologist, psychotherapist, or counsellor looking to expand your skills, gain confidence, and discover fresh ways to make an impact with your clients, this is the show for you. We all know that creating meaningful change for our clients is incredibly fulfilling, but let’s face it—this work can be challenging, especially if you feel like you don’t have a big team around you. Mastering Therapy is a weekly podcast that can be your go-to source of professional development and connection, where therapists can learn from one another, share practical insights, and navigate the challenges of therapy together. Join us as Natalie sits down with experienced practitioners who dive into the nitty-gritty of what really happens in a therapy session. You’ll get a front-row seat to their methods, language, and strategies, as well as honest conversations about potential pitfalls and what to look out for. Whether you specialise in working with adults, children, or use a particular modality—or even an integrative approach—there’s something here for everyone who wants to add practical tools to their therapy toolkit. To stay up-to-date with new episodes and access valuable resources, visit www.masteringtherapy.com. You can also connect with us on social media and subscribe on all major podcast platforms. Looking forward to sharing this journey with you!

  1. S4E11: When Compassion Meets Cash: The Therapist’s Money Dilemmas | Dr Katja Windheim

    6 DAYS AGO

    S4E11: When Compassion Meets Cash: The Therapist’s Money Dilemmas | Dr Katja Windheim

    S4E11: When Compassion Meets Cash: The Therapist’s Money Dilemmas | Dr Katja Windheim Let’s talk about the money elephant in the therapy room. In this episode, clinical psychologist Katja Windheim aka “The Money Psychologist”— joins us to dissect why charging, chasing payments, and setting fees make therapists squirm more than the average tax return. We get specific about how feelings, professional culture, and early training all shape our relationship to cash and what to do when your compassionate side wants to offer therapy for the price of a sandwich. Expect practical tips on strong financial boundaries, cancellation policies that don’t make you hate your diary, and why money talk belongs in supervision just as much as client dynamics. There’s no magic wand here, but you might start seeing your terms and conditions in a whole new light. TIMESTAMPS 02:55 Where the “Money Psychologist” idea came from10:39 Self-funding, cancellations, and client attendance patterns15:37 Making cancellation policies that actually work for you22:26 The awkward business of clients who can only afford limited sessions24:14 Sliding scales—pitfalls, resentments, and alternatives27:20 Signs you’re pricing out of guilt or financial stress33:05 What happens when a client’s money stress enters the therapy room35:37 If your boundaries are all over the place, where to start KEY TAKEAWAYS Discuss and repeat your cancellation policy at multiple points, including during initial sessions and in reminder emails.Treat financial boundaries with the same seriousness as therapeutic ones, and actually bring them to supervision.Avoid piecemeal flexibility—if you bend the rules for one, you’ll end up resenting the lot.Sliding scales quickly get complicated; consider offering limited low-cost slots, doing third-sector work, or creating community resources instead.Before diving into a piece of work, clarify up front how many sessions a client can fund, and plan accordingly.If you’re regularly overbooking or undercharging, pause and get support—consider a business mentor, peer discussion, or a coach.Money worries in clients often show up in the room—name the discomfort, don’t avoid it, and be aware of your own triggers. GUEST Katja Windheim is a clinical psychologist working under the name “The Money Psychologist”. She specialises in helping therapists untangle the practical and emotional knots around money, fees, and boundaries within their practices. She regularly runs live Zoom webinars on the emotional side of money in independent practice. Recorded versions of these are available for purchase on her website. She also offers small group coaching for those professionals who wish to explore this further. If you'd like to hear news and updates about these offers, please sign up to her newsletter on her website. RESOURCES The Money Psychologist websiteConnect with Katja on LinkedInAccess to future workshops and coffee mornings:Free Resource: Reflective audio on managing late cancellations & DNAs ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Supervisor platform SUPERVISOR PLATFORM: Visit www.supervisorplatform.com to search supervisors You can list your profile for free for 3 months Website

    40 min
  2. S4E10: Understanding Maternal Rage: A Guide for Therapists | Dr Caroline Boyd

    23 APR

    S4E10: Understanding Maternal Rage: A Guide for Therapists | Dr Caroline Boyd

    S4E10: Understanding Maternal Rage: A Guide for Therapists | Dr Caroline Boyd EPISODE SUMMARY Is it just anger—or is it maternal rage? Dr. Natalie Stott sits down with Caroline to unpack why mothers feel rage so acutely, and why it matters to name it as a distinct experience. We look at the four contextual forces shaping maternal anger, how cultural myths make mothers feel inadequate, and how therapists can best support clients when rage is shrouded in shame. The episode covers practical steps for mapping client “parts”, bringing the body into therapy, and normalising anger in the context of motherhood and clinical practice. There’s also discussion on therapist disclosure, staying mindful of your own triggers, and ways to deepen your work with mothers. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) gets a mention in passing, but this conversation keeps the focus crisply UK-centric. TIMESTAMPS • 00:00 Definition and importance of maternal rage • 00:10 Four contextual forces behind maternal anger • 08:05 Therapist perspectives: bringing your own experiences into sessions • 10:40 Asking mums about their own upbringing and anger • 15:12 Mapping parts, parts work, and nervous system regulation • 21:13 Impact of childhood experiences on adult anger • 27:04 Using body awareness for anger management • 41:06 Mapping parts and relating to “adult self” • 44:32 Therapist disclosure and managing activation • 51:00 Courses and resources for therapists and mums KEY TAKEAWAYS • Maternal rage is distinct from everyday anger—it’s shaped by societal, cultural, and personal forces. • Mapping parts (IFS-informed) helps clients understand protective, wounded, perfectionist, and avoidant pieces of themselves. • Normalising anger, referencing current research, and naming its prevalence helps reduce client shame. • Therapists should sensitively explore how anger was held and expressed in clients’ upbringing. • Body-based techniques and nervous system regulation are essential for helping mothers manage anger. • Consider the impact of perfectionism and inner critic parts, which often drive maternal distress. • Therapist disclosure needs careful consideration—check your motives and the client’s readiness before sharing. GUEST Clinical psychologist Dr Caroline Boyd has over 10 years' experience working in the NHS and mental health settings, and she supports parents from pregnancy to childbirth and beyond. Caroline offers anger courses, workshops and 1:1 therapy, alongside training and supervision, in her independent psychology practice, Parent Therapy Hub. Caroline is the author of Mindful New Mum, and her published research explores mothers' experiences of intrusive thoughts about their babies. Her work has been featured in You magazine, Grazia, the Telegraph, and BBC R4’s Woman's Hour. She is an Ambassador for UK perinatal mental health charity, PANDAS, and appeared as an expert guest on ITV’s daytime show, This Morning, to discuss postpartum depression. Caroline shares psychology ideas on Instagram and in the media to help parents feel less alone and more connected - to themselves and their children.d writes extensively on maternal rage, using parts work and body-based approaches. Contact her- Website Instagram RESOURCES • Caroline’s maternal rage course for mums use MASTERINGTHERAPY code for £100 OFF Training & Supervision for therapists: HERE The course helps mums move from anger and shame to understanding and repair - in just six, manageable video lessons designed to fit around busy family life. You don’t need to be experiencing full-blown rage to benefit. Many mums take the course simply to understand their emotions better and reconnect with themselves and those they love. It’s for every mum who’s ever felt stretched too thin by: 🎯 Broken sleep that leaves you on edge 🎯 The invisible mental load that never ends 🎯 Toddler meltdowns that test every ounce of patience 🎯 Feeling unseen or unsupported by your partner or family 🎯 The pressure to do it all perfectly and sacrifice your own needs Ghosts in the nursery reference ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Maternal rage course- £100 pounds off For access to Dr. Boyd's self-paced maternal rage course. Use the affiliate link here. Maternal rage course- £100 pounds off For access to Dr. Boyd's self-paced maternal rage course. Use the affiliate link here.

    57 min
  3. S4E9 Changing emotion with emotion in EFT | Dr Anna Oldershaw

    16 APR

    S4E9 Changing emotion with emotion in EFT | Dr Anna Oldershaw

    S4E9 Changing emotion with emotion in EFT | Dr Anna Oldershaw EPISODE SUMMARY Most therapists are comfortable talking about emotions, but Emotion Focused Therapy (EFT) takes things several steps further. In this episode, Dr. Natalie Stott sits down with Dr Anna Oldershaw, consultant clinical psychologist and EFT trainer, to demystify the nuts, bolts, and chairs of EFT. They explore why “changing emotion with emotion” is central, the art of letting clients discover their own “Rome”, and why the therapy is more than a rebranding of common practice. Whether you’re curious about chairwork, anxious about secondary anger, or wondering how EFT fits in alongside Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), you’ll leave with something practical for your next session. TIMESTAMPS 00:03 What is Emotion Focused Therapy, and why does it matter?02:20 How Dr. Anna Oldershaw stumbled upon EFT (and SPEAKS therapy for anorexia)05:39 Can you integrate EFT with schema therapy or ACT?07:35 Chairwork: making internal parts less terrifying09:38 EFT’s view on emotions: adaptive, maladaptive, and what’s really going on when clients say they’re “just angry”16:54 Working with clients’ own process, not parachuting in with answers26:31 The nuts and bolts of running a chair task (and what to do if things go off piste)31:19 What can clients do between sessions to keep the work alive?45:24 Interested in training in EFT? How to start KEY TAKEAWAYS • Use “chairwork” to facilitate clients’ dialogues with critical or protective parts—let them find their own insights, not yours. • Distinguish between primary adaptive emotions (helpful, situation-relevant), primary maladaptive emotions (old wounds replaying), and secondary emotions (reactions to other feelings). Don’t take clients’ first answers at face value. • When chairwork risks a shouting match between parts, focus on building assertiveness in the “experiencing” chair and softening of the critic—don’t force a negotiation. • Listen for process “markers” as sessions begin to decide which EFT task (chair, focusing, imagery) will actually fit. • To boost client awareness between sessions, ask them to notice and name when certain inner critics or feelings emerge—no need to “fix”, just notice. • Be careful about overlaying your own formulation. Use conjecture gently, reflect back, and let the client’s experience lead. • If a client experiences blocks (i.e., “I can’t go there”), work with the blocking part directly—don’t bulldoze through. GUEST Dr Anna Oldershaw Consultant clinical psychologist, internationally accredited EFT trainer and supervisor, and director of the Emotion Focused Therapy Institute. Specialises in eating disorders and developed the SPEAKS therapy approach for anorexia. RESOURCES FREE EFT training- apply HERE Emotion Speaks Overview of Emotion-Focused Therapy, research, and videos 🔗 Link here Core Skills Training (Level 1) Four-day EFT training focused on core tasks you can use immediately (Next course in May 26) 🔗 Booking link Advanced Empathic Attunement For therapists wanting to refine moment-to-moment emotional work 🔗 Booking link SPEAKS Therapy (Eating Disorders) Integrates Emotion-Focused Therapy and Schema Therapy 🔗 Training link | 🔗 Book link • Les Greenberg’s EFT videos and further resources: Emotion Focused Therapy Institute UK – Video Resource ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Free place EFT For a free place on the emotion-focused therapy training, click here.

    44 min
  4. S4E8: Beyond Diagnosis: Building Confidence in Neurodiversity-Affirming Practice | Dr Jo Mueller & Dr Lauren Breese

    2 APR

    S4E8: Beyond Diagnosis: Building Confidence in Neurodiversity-Affirming Practice | Dr Jo Mueller & Dr Lauren Breese

    S4E8: Beyond Diagnosis: Building Confidence in Neurodiversity-Affirming Practice | Dr Jo Mueller & Dr Lauren Breese EPISODE SUMMARY This episode of Mastering Therapy welcomes clinical psychologists Dr. Lauren Breese and Dr. Jo Mueller of the neurodiversity practice (alongside Dr Sibohan Higgins) for a sharp, practical exploration of adult autism and neurodivergent parenting. They discuss the misconceptions that trip up therapists, why autism isn’t synonymous with mental health struggles, and the surprisingly liberating power of discussing neurodivergence early. There’s a clear rundown of adapting therapy for autistic adults—including navigating unpredictable sessions, sensory overwhelm, and boundaries that actually protect your client’s (and your own) battery. Whether you’re staring at daunting NHS assessment paperwork or questioning how direct to be, this episode is packed with straightforward guidance and a few witty asides. 02:24 Autism Misconceptions 05:07 Trauma and Autism 06:26 Raising Neurodiversity 10:05 Neuroaffirming Framing 15:21 Adapting Therapy 21:58 Assessment Paperwork 26:50 Late Diagnosis Triggers 29:43 Parenting Pressure Points 32:06 Protect Your Battery 36:15 Resources and Wrap Up Guest Information: Dr. Lauren Breese and Dr. Jo Mueller are clinical psychologists and co-founders of The Neurodiversity Practice. They work with neurodivergent people and their families, offering therapy, consultancy, and training. Their work includes an online community for neurodivergent parents and resources for clinicians. Website: The Neurodiversity Practice Resources discussed Training for practitioners The Neurodivergent Parent Space (support community run by the guests)Autistic Girls Network websiteJo's BlogThe Hidden 20% PodcastThe Neurodivergent Woman PodcastDeborah Kingston’s EMDR training for neurodivergent presentations https://www.theneurodiversitypractice.com/ Resources mentioned: ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Supervisor platform SUPERVISOR PLATFORM: Visit www.supervisorplatform.com to search supervisors You can list your profile for free for 3 months Website

    41 min
  5. S4E7: Online Therapy Across Borders: Risk, Cover, Compliance | Dr Tess Browne

    26 MAR

    S4E7: Online Therapy Across Borders: Risk, Cover, Compliance | Dr Tess Browne

    S4E7: Online Therapy Across Borders: Risk, Cover, Compliance | Dr Tess Browne EPISODE SUMMARY What happens when your therapy room has no borders—literally? In this episode, Dr. Natalie Stott and Dr Tess Browne tackle the practical realities of working with clients overseas, from risk management to insurance headaches. If you’ve debated taking your private practice global, wondered about how to safeguard clients abroad, or been baffled by tax as a travelling clinician, this one’s for you. The discussion steers clear of legal jargon, focusing instead on the right questions to ask your insurer, accountant, and yourself. There's also a free downloadable with all questions you need to be asking so scroll down to get it TIMESTAMPS 00:48 The real-world challenges of working with clients abroad02:00 How Dr Tess Browne built her global practice online04:12 What makes risk manageable (and when it gets tricky)08:04 Screening and safeguarding clients across borders15:08 Insurance, licensing, and crucial questions for your provider27:07 Navigating tax if you work overseas or with international clients33:21 Networks, support, and the reality of ongoing global therapy work KEY TAKEAWAYS Always clarify both your insurance’s worldwide coverage and its legal jurisdiction—“worldwide” isn’t always what it seems.Add a clause to terms and conditions about being UK-based, subject to UK law, and the limits of confidentiality (especially when escalating risk in another country).When onboarding clients abroad, collect in-country emergency contacts and ensure the client’s consent to use them.Make sure both you and the client know the emergency services number in their country—expats often don’t.State your title clearly and honestly (e.g., UK-registered clinical psychologist), especially in countries with protected titles or different regulations.Contact local psychological societies before working with clients in unfamiliar countries—responses are often more helpful than expected.Before changing countries or tax residency, speak to an accountant who understands cross-border income and double taxation. RESOURCES Mastering Therapy website and mailing list: masteringtherapy.comUK Digital Nomad Psychologists Facebook group: [LINK]Supervisor Platform: [LINK]Statutory Residence Test info (HMRC): [LINK] Guest Information: GUEST Dr Tess Browne is a UK-trained clinical psychologist with NHS experience who spent 7 years practising in Hong Kong and now runs a thriving global online practice. Her main clients are often high-achieving expats and perinatal women, making her a pragmatic guide on the ins and outs of overseas therapy. Social media: @drtessbrowne (on IG & LinkedIn) Website: www.drtessbrowne.com Resources mentioned: FREE RESOURCE- Downloadable Overseas toolkit- All the questions you need to ask the relevant people in one neat document ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Supervisor platform SUPERVISOR PLATFORM: Visit www.supervisorplatform.com to search supervisors You can list your profile for free for 3 months Website

    37 min
  6. S4E6: The Power of Empathic Confrontation and Mode Mapping:  Schema Therapy | Dr Jo White

    19 MAR

    S4E6: The Power of Empathic Confrontation and Mode Mapping: Schema Therapy | Dr Jo White

    S4E6: The Power of Empathic Confrontation and Mode Mapping: Schema Therapy | Dr Jo White Ever had a client say, “I know it’s not logical, but I just feel… defective”? This episode of Mastering Therapy unpacks schema therapy with ISST-certified schema therapist and supervisor Dr Jo White. Hosts Dr Natalie Stott and Jo tackle the origins of schema therapy, why Jeff Young developed it when CBT wasn’t cutting the mustard, and what exactly a “schema” is. Expect practical metaphors, mode maps, and hear how limited reparenting can shift entrenched patterns. From how schemas form in childhood, to the therapist’s role with healthy adult mode, this episode is full of clinical pearls for anyone curious about alternative models or thinking beyond core beliefs. There’s even a nod to chairwork, imagery rescripting, and handling those confrontational moments in therapy. TIMESTAMPS • 00:00 What is schema therapy and why did it emerge? • 04:22 How to explain a schema to clients (metaphors that actually work) • 09:48 Introducing “modes”—and why behaviours matter • 17:58 Limited reparenting: what it is and how boundaries play a role • 21:59 Empathic confrontation: cold tap, hot tap, and getting the balance right • 28:29 Schema therapy in brief: is short-term work possible? • 31:15 Mapping out modes and schemas with clients • 33:53 Experiential techniques: chairwork, imagery, and mode mapping • 40:11 Therapist schemas and supervision: you’re in it too • 45:39 Training routes and schema therapy resources KEY TAKEAWAYS • Use “schema glasses” as a client-friendly metaphor—schemas filter every situation. • Limited reparenting is in-session modelling of healthy adult responses; boundaries are key. • Modes describe how schemas play out: learn to identify vulnerable child, coping, critic and healthy modes. • Empathic confrontation helps clients change entrenched patterns—adjust the “hot and cold” for effectiveness. • Always map modes and schemas collaboratively—help clients spot their emotional triggers and bodily responses. • Imagery rescripting can reduce schema sensitivity; the therapist actively steps in to rewrite old memories. • Long-term schema therapy is ideal, but elements can be adapted for briefer interventions (with caution). Guest Information: Dr Jo White ISST-certified schema therapist, trainer, and supervisor. Experienced in integrating schema therapy into clinical practice and supervision. Clear, practical approach to teaching therapists. Website: https://www.schematherapyworks.co.uk/dr-jo-white Resources mentioned: BESQ - Brief Early Schema QuestionnaireSchema youtubeSchema blog ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Supervisor platform SUPERVISOR PLATFORM: Visit www.supervisorplatform.com to search supervisors You can list your profile for free for 3 months Website

    49 min
  7. S4E5: Stop processing parts without mapping their purpose first (IFS & EMDR)|  Dr David Polidi

    12 MAR

    S4E5: Stop processing parts without mapping their purpose first (IFS & EMDR)| Dr David Polidi

    What happens when you blend the structured world of EMDR with the nuanced, parts-based approach of IFS? Dr. Natalie Stott sits down with David Polidi—EMDR therapist and “IFS guru” (his clients’ words, not his)—to get practical about integrating Internal Family Systems and Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing in complex trauma work. They tackle everything from how to honour protectors (without bulldozing them) to what actually happens in this mysterious “Phase 2.5,” and how to avoid getting tangled in your own parts as a therapist. Plus, the age-old questions: Do you really need bilateral stimulation? And can you use a parts lens without an IFS certificate? No hype, just candour, solid tips, and welcome reassurance for therapists at every stage. TIMESTAMPS • 00:00 Introduction and purpose of blending IFS and EMDR • 02:41 The “Syzygy model” and holding both maps in session • 06:24 EMDR’s Phase 2.5/Discovery Phase—what is it, why is it useful? • 14:43 What to do when protectors hijack reprocessing work • 24:24 When negotiations with parts fail—what next? • 27:13 Why blend models at all? And do you have to pick sides? • 33:15 What happens between sessions? Homework for clients (and therapists) • 36:42 Getting started: books, trainings, and the value of consultation KEY TAKEAWAYS • Always check in with every part—genuine consent trumps protocol when reprocessing trauma memories. • Use “Phase 2.5” (Discovery Phase) with blended protectors—pause, get curious, and only proceed when all parts are on board. • The “fire drill” is a quick, practical tool: name your own therapist parts at the start of sessions and gently ask them to step aside. • Don't bulldoze protectors—forced reprocessing often brings backlash and, at best, patchy results. • EMDR's structure maps well onto IFS’s parts work, but the pace needs to match your client’s system—not your agenda. • It’s OK to use parts language without formal IFS training, as long as you’re respectful, collaborative, and guided by your client’s experience. • Encourage clients to build ongoing relationships with their parts between sessions (quick daily check-ins can genuinely help). RESOURCES S4E5: Stop processing parts without mapping their purpose first (IFS & EMDR)| Dr David Polidi Guest Information: David Polidi is a practising EMDR therapist known for integrating IFS into trauma work. He recently edited a collaborative book on IFS-informed EMDR, gathering voices from trainers, teachers, and therapists innovating at the frontier of blended models. Social media: Website: Resources mentioned: IFS Training Programs | IFS InstituteIntro to IFS informed EMDR – EMDR InsightIFS Informed EMDR Training Program — Syzygy InstituteDavid's Book ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Supervisor platform SUPERVISOR PLATFORM: Visit www.supervisorplatform.com to search supervisors You can list your profile for free for 3 months Website

    48 min
  8. S4E4: Therapist Drift. Skill or laziness? |  Dr Gracie Mclaven

    5 MAR

    S4E4: Therapist Drift. Skill or laziness? | Dr Gracie Mclaven

    S4E4: Therapist Drift. Skill or laziness? | Dr Gracie Mclaven EPISODE SUMMARY Is “therapist drift” a mark of incompetence, or creative clinical freedom? In this episode, Dr. Gracie McLaven sits down with Dr. Natalie Stott to deconstruct the practical realities of blending therapy models, from DDP to EMDR and ACT, in a world obsessed with protocols and evidence bases. The conversation sidesteps the usual platitudes, digging into the messy, human reality of clinical practice, where intuition meets integration and sometimes, the best work happens outside the boxes. Expect a wry look at the NHS, a nod to the limits of randomised controlled trials, and some honest discussion about how to find your therapeutic style amid ever-mounting pressures on frontline services. KEY TAKEAWAYS Using multiple therapy models isn’t always “drift”—sometimes, it’s exactly what complex cases require.The relationship between therapist and client can be more important than rigid protocol adherence.Formulating cases can be fluid—messy minds need not stick to neatly drawn CBT diagrams.Short-term models like CBT aren’t always containing enough for intense trauma work.There are risks in assuming the evidence base is neutral; cultural bias and financial motivations play a role.Feedback cycles with clients—check-ins, reviews, testimonials—are key to knowing whether you’re actually helping.Regular, varied supervision is crucial for independent or integrative practitioners. Guest Information: Dr. Gracie McLaven Clinical psychologist in private practice, with a wide-ranging background in attachment, trauma, and integrative work. Known for her reflective, relationship-focused approach to therapy and strong views on what makes therapy effective. Social media: Website: https://brainbodywealth.co.uk/ Resources mentioned: ** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes ** For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com ***** Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel Follow Mastering therapy on instagram Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn SUPERVISOR PLATFORM Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services. Supervisor Platform (with 3 months free trial code 'WELCOME3')To search for a new supervisor visit HEREFor free resources on supervision visit HERE Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals. Mentioned in this episode: Supervisor platform SUPERVISOR PLATFORM: Visit www.supervisorplatform.com to search supervisors You can list your profile for free for 3 months Website

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Welcome to the Mastering Therapy Podcast with me, Dr. Natalie Stott, a clinical psychologist. If you're a psychologist, psychotherapist, or counsellor looking to expand your skills, gain confidence, and discover fresh ways to make an impact with your clients, this is the show for you. We all know that creating meaningful change for our clients is incredibly fulfilling, but let’s face it—this work can be challenging, especially if you feel like you don’t have a big team around you. Mastering Therapy is a weekly podcast that can be your go-to source of professional development and connection, where therapists can learn from one another, share practical insights, and navigate the challenges of therapy together. Join us as Natalie sits down with experienced practitioners who dive into the nitty-gritty of what really happens in a therapy session. You’ll get a front-row seat to their methods, language, and strategies, as well as honest conversations about potential pitfalls and what to look out for. Whether you specialise in working with adults, children, or use a particular modality—or even an integrative approach—there’s something here for everyone who wants to add practical tools to their therapy toolkit. To stay up-to-date with new episodes and access valuable resources, visit www.masteringtherapy.com. You can also connect with us on social media and subscribe on all major podcast platforms. Looking forward to sharing this journey with you!

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