Quoted

Neil Kleiner and Natasha Plowman
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Different voices, in front of the questions everyone else asks the same three people about. Quoted is a longform interview show that goes looking for the experts you haven't already heard on everything. Each week, Neil and Natasha sit down with someone worth listening to and give them room to think out loud, make an argument, and say something you won't have heard framed that way before. New episodes every Tuesday. A Kleiner Studios production. Find out more, or put a voice forward, at antiquoted.com.

Episodes

  1. 1 day ago

    Quoted: Dominique Riviere on Romance novels as a lens on power

    The world you're looking at isn't broken. Dominique Riviere argues it's working exactly as designed, on a logic of predator and prey. And she thinks a romance novel might explain it better than the news does. Dominique is based in Toronto, where for the past six years she's run the Fictive Kin Equity Lab, a consultancy that grew, improbably, out of a pandemic layoff. Her academic background is in equity and social justice in education, and she's worked across schools and government. But the thread running through all of it is one slightly unexpected idea: that fiction, and romance in particular, is one of the sharpest tools we have for understanding power, equity and justice in the real world. She runs a reading group called Impolite Society, writes widely on Substack, and cheerfully describes herself as a book person who prefers books to most people. We talk about: Why the world we're looking at isn't an aberration, but the logical end point of a system built on predator and preyWhy facts and evidence keep losing to worse argumentsWhy she thinks AI is really just human intelligence handed back to usHow a romance novel can tell you more about power than the news doesHer one instruction for a better world: read more romance. She'll explain.Find Dominique Fictive Kin Equity Lab: https://fictivekinlab.caSubstack: https://fictivekin.substack.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominique-riviere-phd/ Links Quoted is brought to you by Antiquoted: https://antiquoted.comA Kleiner Studios production: https://kleinerstudios.comIn partnership with Spinning Red: https://spinningred.com

    Quoted: Dominique Riviere on Romance novels as a lens on power

  2. 18 Aug

    Quoted : Paul Armstrong on why technology explains surprisingly

    Quoted | Paul Armstrong: Why technology explains surprisingly little We're told technology is the story. Paul Armstrong has spent two decades arguing that the technologuy is not as important as the incentives behind it. Paul runs TBD Group, which stands for Technology, Behaviour and Data, and he's one of the UK's last genuinely independent tech advisors. His route in wasn't the obvious one: a psychology degree, a spell interviewing celebrities on red carpets in the States, child protection work at MySpace, then heading up social innovation at Mindshare, where his team talked HSBC into becoming the first bank on social media. He now advises on disruption, runs a community and a monthly event series called The New Normal, and puts out a briefing with a title that captures how fast his world moves: What Did OpenAI Do This Week. His central claim, after all of it, is that the tech itself is rarely the thing worth watching. We talk about: Why technology explains surprisingly little, and why the real story is always the incentives, the behaviour and the power around itWhy most bad corporate behaviour won't be fixed by outrage or by deleting the app, but in the law courtsWhat the media keeps getting wrong about AIWhy he's sceptical of banning teenagers off social appsWhy, despite all of it, he thinks we should be more optimistic than we are, without ever becoming a cheerleaderFind Paul TBD Group: https://www.thetbd.groupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulstephenarmstrong/What Did OpenAI Do This Week: https://whatdidopenaidothisweek.beehiiv.com Links Quoted is brought to you by Antiquoted: https://antiquoted.comA Kleiner Studios production: https://kleinerstudios.comIn partnership with Spinning Red: https://spinningred.com

    Quoted : Paul Armstrong on why technology explains surprisingly

  3. 11 Aug

    Quoted: Dr Gillian Marcelle on high finance with people at the centre

    Quoted | Dr Gillian Marcelle on high finance with people at the centre What if finance wasn't a machine for making a few people rich, but a tool designed, on purpose, to serve the many? Dr Gillian Marcelle has spent more than sixty years, across four continents, proving that question isn't naive. She's integrated a local credit union into a private equity fund, raised millions for clean energy across the Caribbean and Central America, and introduced the first listed telecoms company in Sub-Saharan Africa to global capital markets. In this conversation she makes the case that finance and technology are socially shaped, which means they can be shaped differently. We talk about: Why the mainstream story that pits financial returns against serving society is a choice, not a law of natureThe myth that "there is no alternative to capitalism", and who benefits from us believing itWhy the same narrow pool of Global North economists keeps getting the call, and what they consistently missThe Global Majority: how demographic shifts are set to reshape business, finance and investmentBlended finance done with intention, directing capital to where it's needed mostStanding on the shoulders of the ancestors who fought oppression and wonThe essay Dr Marcelle has also kindly written an essay expanding on the key points from our conversation, organised around the Six Questions we put to every guest. It's a piece of thinking in its own right, and well worth your time. Read it here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11ZDMSdlKNuL2RAFyGpMmPU8ps0WTw5h2/view?usp=sharing Find Dr Marcelle LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillianmarcelle/Resilience Capital Ventures: https://www.resiliencecapitalventures.com/ Links Quoted is brought to you by Antiquoted: https://antiquoted.comA Kleiner Studios production: https://kleinerstudios.comIn partnership with Spinning Red: https://spinningred.com

    Quoted: Dr Gillian Marcelle on high finance with people at the centre
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Different voices, in front of the questions everyone else asks the same three people about. Quoted is a longform interview show that goes looking for the experts you haven't already heard on everything. Each week, Neil and Natasha sit down with someone worth listening to and give them room to think out loud, make an argument, and say something you won't have heard framed that way before. New episodes every Tuesday. A Kleiner Studios production. Find out more, or put a voice forward, at antiquoted.com.

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  • Creator
    Neil Kleiner and Natasha Plowman
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    3
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Neil Kleiner and Natasha Plowman
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