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Systems Thinking for Humans

Annie and Michael Hedgpeth, founders of People Work, join Kris and Matt to unpack the junior hiring crisis and what's really broken about how we grow engineers. Annie's viral blog post sparked debate about whether senior engineers have abandoned their responsibility to mentor and whether our obsession with career ladders created the problem. The conversation moves from systemic dysfunction to solutions: People Work, their local-first app that helps engineers manage professional relationships with a systems thinking approach. As always, we've got supporter content! This week that includes Kris's unconventional career path, a rant about why we have too many engineering titles, deep dives into relational intelligence and privacy concerns around workplace surveillance, and the technical architecture behind People Work: Swift frontend, Rust backend, and a custom DSL inspired by HCL. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. This week's episode of Break continues the conversation. Annie and Michael stick around as the panel digs into why early career engineers rush to prove themselves, the trap of becoming "the glue person" instead of building technical depth, and why your strength as a junior is that you don't know anything yet. The panel also discusses some spicy topics like why software engineers spew logical fallacies, and the future of computing as hardware gains slow down. They round out the episode with some Unpopular Opinions. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/25. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Meet Annie & Michael Hedgpeth (00:00:49)Chapter 2: The Junior Hiring Crisis (00:01:15)Chapter 3: AI as an Amplifier (00:10:37)Chapter 4: The Broken Apprenticeship Model (00:12:05)Chapter 5: Scaling Yourself Through Others (00:20:00)Chapter 6: Kris Never Had a Mentor [Preview] (00:25:59)Chapter 7: Too Many Titles [Preview] (00:26:14)Chapter 10: Relational Intelligence [Preview] (00:26:33)Chapter 12: Why Engineers? [Preview] (00:27:04)Chapter 13: Privacy & Safe Spaces [Preview] (00:27:36)Chapter 14: AI Strategy & On-Device [Preview] (00:28:06)Chapter 15: Swift + Rust + Crux [Preview] (00:28:34)Chapter 8: Networking That Actually Works (00:29:17)Chapter 9: What is People Work? (00:33:56)Chapter 11: The Onboarding Use Case (00:43:18)Chapter 16: Data Ownership & The DSL (00:48:16)Epilogue (00:52:25) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Annie Hedgpeth - Guest Michael Hedgpeth - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (00:49) - Chapter 1: Meet Annie & Michael Hedgpeth (01:15) - Chapter 2: The Junior Hiring Crisis (10:37) - Chapter 3: AI as an Amplifier (12:05) - Chapter 4: The Broken Apprenticeship Model (20:00) - Chapter 5: Scaling Yourself Through Others (25:59) - Chapter 6: Kris Never Had a Mentor [Preview] (26:14) - Chapter 7: Too Many Titles [Preview] (26:33) - Chapter 10: Relational Intelligence [Preview] (27:04) - Chapter 12: Why Engineers? [Preview] (27:36) - Chapter 13: Privacy & Safe Spaces [Preview] (28:06) - Chapter 14: AI Strategy & On-Device [Preview] (28:34) - Chapter 15: Swift + Rust + Crux [Preview] (29:17) - Chapter 8: Networking That Actually Works (33:56) - Chapter 9: What is PeopleWork? (43:18) - Chapter 11: The Onboarding Use Case (48:16) - Chapter 16: Data Ownership & The DSL (52:25) - Epilogue

6 天前

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53 分鐘
1月16日

When Reality Drifts

Nick Gerace, Engineering Manager at System Initiative, joins Kris and Matt to explore what infrastructure management looks like beyond Terraform. Nick walks us through how System Initiative differs from traditional IaC, why git isn't really your source of truth, and how the company pivoted to AI-first tooling. The conversation turns to Claude Code and MCP tools before landing on a nuanced discussion about distributed systems, and how the messy, eventual consistency of real life mirrors the systems we build. As always, we've got supporter content! This week that includes deep dives into System Initiative's architecture evolution from Postgres to a custom graph database, Nick's passionate defense of domain-driven design in Rust monorepos ("if I see a util directory, I go a little nuts"), why AI won't replace musicians (or you), and a spicy take on AI, capitalism, and power structures. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. This week's episode of Break continues the conversation. Nick sticks around as the hosts compare audio engineering backgrounds, discuss the IC to manager journey, and take a hard turn into hardware—dual 3090 TIs with NVLink, the case for water cooling, Kris's absurd home lab, and everyone's temptation toward Framework Desktops and Mac Studios. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/24. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Meet Nick Gerace (00:01:21)Chapter 2: The Power of Networking (00:05:38)Chapter 3: What is System Initiative? (00:14:54)Chapter 4: Terraform vs System Initiative (00:19:58)Chapter 5: Git Isn't Your Source of Truth (00:25:47)Chapter 6: SI Architecture: From Postgres to Graph [Extended] (00:34:47)Chapter 7: Rust Monorepos & Domain-Driven Design [Extended] (00:35:10)Chapter 10: AI Won't Replace Musicians (or You) [Extended] (00:35:34)Chapter 12: AI, Capitalism & Power Structures [Extended] (00:36:03)Chapter 8: The AI Pivot at System Initiative (00:37:14)Chapter 9: Claude Code & MCP Tools (00:47:30)Chapter 11: Distributed Systems Are Just Real Life (00:54:13)Chapter 13: Data Centers, Water & Nuance (01:00:20)Epilogue (01:08:11) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Nick Gerace - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (01:21) - Chapter 1: Meet Nick Gerace (05:38) - Chapter 2: The Power of Networking (14:54) - Chapter 3: What is System Initiative? (19:58) - Chapter 4: Terraform vs System Initiative (25:47) - Chapter 5: Git Isn't Your Source of Truth (34:47) - Chapter 6: SI Architecture: From Postgres to Graph [Extended] (35:10) - Chapter 7: Rust Monorepos & Domain-Driven Design [Extended] (35:34) - Chapter 10: AI Won't Replace Musicians (or You) [Extended] (36:03) - Chapter 12: AI, Capitalism & Power Structures [Extended] (37:14) - Chapter 8: The AI Pivot at System Initiative (47:30) - Chapter 9: Claude Code & MCP Tools (54:13) - Chapter 11: Distributed Systems Are Just Real Life (01:00:20) - Chapter 13: Data Centers, Water & Nuance (01:08:11) - Epilogue

1月16日

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1 小時 10 分鐘
1月10日

New Year, New Nuance

New Year, New Nuance! In this episode, Kris and Matt discuss what they're looking forward to in 2026—Matt shares the exciting news that he's becoming a dad, and the duo explore the value of growth, changing your opinions, and adding more nuance to how you see the world. They talk about what they're excited to build this year, from physical projects like woodworking and doors to the podcast platform they keep talking about. Kris shares how a conversation with Claude finally made electricity click, leading to a broader discussion about LLMs as "digital librarians" and what education should really be about: teaching you how to teach yourself. As always, we've got supporter content! This week that includes deep dives into local AI infrastructure, home networking with 10G and WireGuard, and a spicy rant about why centralized package management is fundamentally broken. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. This week's episode of break continues the conversation. Where the two reflect on AI doomerism's mental health toll, why things aren't worse than before, the logistics behind society's real problems, and turning waste into opportunity with BASF's Verbund principle. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/23. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Matt's Becoming a Dad (00:03:06)Chapter 2: Growth & Changing Your Opinions (00:06:39)Chapter 3: Adding More Nuance in 2026 (00:15:44)Chapter 4: What We're Excited to Build (00:24:57)Chapter 5: Learning How Things Work: Electricity (00:30:21)Chapter 6: LLMs as Digital Librarians (00:39:05)Chapter 7: The Real Purpose of Education (00:51:44)Chapter 8: Local AI Infrastructure & Home Networking [Extended] (00:58:38)Chapter 9: The Centralization Problem in Package Management [Extended] (00:59:30)Epilogue (00:59:39) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (03:06) - Chapter 1: Matt's Becoming a Dad (06:39) - Chapter 2: Growth & Changing Your Opinions (15:44) - Chapter 3: Adding More Nuance in 2026 (24:57) - Chapter 4: What We're Excited to Build (30:21) - Chapter 5: Learning How Things Work: Electricity (39:05) - Chapter 6: LLMs as Digital Librarians (51:44) - Chapter 7: The Real Purpose of Education (58:38) - Chapter 8: Local AI Infrastructure & Home Networking [Extended] (59:30) - Chapter 9: The Centralization Problem in Package Management [Extended] (59:39) - Epilogue

1月10日

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1 小時 1 分鐘
2025/12/25

Worse Is Better

There's a famous joke essay called Worse Is Better, which compares the New Jersey and the MIT ideologies. In this episode, Kris and Matt discuss these two different ideologies and how they show up in technology, from Go, to dependency management, to electric vehicles. If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. This week's episode of break continues the conversation. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/21. In this week's bonus content, the duo discusses how idealistic thinking has slowed down the adoption of electric vehicles and what a better path forward might have looked like. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Show Notes: Worse Is BetterSimple Made EasyLess Is Exponentially MoreGo += Package VersioninggovulncheckThe Bizarre Logic of the F-150 Lightning Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Worse Is Better? (00:02:58)Chapter 2: Go Got Stranded In The Middle (00:10:39)Chapter 3: SemVer Is Fundamentally Broken (00:33:32)Chapter 4: We Don't Live In The Ideal World (00:47:19)Chapter 5: BEVs vs EREVs [Extended] (00:56:26)Chapter 6: Holistic vs Deep (00:56:58)Epilogue (01:01:39) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (02:58) - Chapter 1: Worse Is Better? (10:39) - Chapter 2: Go Got Stranded In The Middle (33:32) - Chapter 3: SemVer Is Fundamentally Broken (47:19) - Chapter 4: We Don't Live In The Ideal World (56:26) - Chapter 5: BEVs vs EREVs [Extended] (56:58) - Chapter 6: Holistic vs Deep (01:01:39) - Epilogue

2025/12/25

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1 小時 3 分鐘
2025/03/03

Tools We Love

We all have tools that make our lives better. Software tools, hardware tools, and everything in between. In this episode, Matt is joined by Kris, Ian, and Dylan to discuss some of their favorite tools, what they use them for, and why they chose them. Want to hear about the tools we don't like? Become a supporter and enjoy bonus content and higher quality audio today, and additional perks and benefits when we add them in the future. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Tools: (01:36) Tool #1: Jujitsu(05:40) Tool #2: MyRepos(08:56) Tool #3: GitHub Actions(14:54) Tool #4: ZFS(17:02) Tool #5: GNU Stow(19:15) .ignore in your .gitconfig(19:49) Subshell for mktmp -d(27:29) Tool #6: ZSA Moonlander(32:47) Tool #7: A good office chair(37:25) Tool #8: KitchenAid Professional 600(39:17) https://flameka.com(40:47) Tool #9: Sourcegraph(42:53) Tool #10: Comby(43:25) Tool #11: Kagi(47:14) Tool #12: Datagrip(48:57) Tool #13: govers(51:15) Tool #14: Mage(53:22) Tool #15: NeoVim(55:57) Tree-sitter(58:44) Tool #16: Ghostty(01:00:57) Tool #17: 1Password(01:06:02) Tool #18: B5 Paper(01:12:22) Tool #19: Leuchtturm1917(01:13:26) Tool #20: Uni Kuru Toga(01:13:52) Tool #21: Koh-i-noor Rapidomatic(01:16:36) Tool #22: Hardened steel ruler(01:17:37) Tool #23: LAMY Safari(01:19:01) Tool #24: Baron Fig Strategist(01:20:42) Tool #25: Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro(01:21:12) Tool #26: Schiit Vali(01:21:51) Tool #27: Sony MDR-7506(01:22:24) Tool #28: Shokz OpenRun(01:28:56) Tool #29: BlackMagic Design Ultra Studio Recorded 3G(01:31:16) Tool #30: OBS(01:33:05) Tool #31: SM7B(01:33:47) Tool #32: Ziess lens wipes(01:34:58) Tool #33: Apple M2 Macbook Air(01:41:36) Tool #34: iFixIt Mako driver kit(01:42:46) Tool #35: American Giant hoodie(01:44:17) Tool #36: Epson ES-300W portable scanner(01:45:37) Tool #37: HP LasterJet P1102W(01:47:30) Tool #38: IKEA SKADISChapters: (00:00) - Intro (01:36) - Tech Tools (23:49) - Shift Lock & Escaping Vim (tangent) (27:29) - Keyboards (30:29) - Typing Classes (tangent) (32:47) - Office Gear (37:25) - Kitchen Gear (40:47) - More Tech Tools (46:17) - Ad Auctions (tangent) (47:14) - Even More Software (01:06:02) - Stationery (01:20:42) - Audio & Video Gear (01:42:46) - Other Tools (01:50:53) - Tools We Don't Love (01:52:01) - Outro Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Ian Wester-Lopshire - Host Dylan Bourque - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram

2025/03/03

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1 小時 54 分鐘
2025/08/11

Big Data Energy

In the years leading up to the current AI hype cycle we're currently all experiencing, there was another hype cycle: Big Data. In this episode, Kris is joined by Matt and Steve to discuss how the Big Data craze relates to the current Artificial Intelligence one, where Big Data ends and AI/ML begin, and so much more. We've also have a new episode of Break! We've decided that Break will be video first, so you can watch it on YouTube or in your favorite podcast app by going to: https://break.show/ep/5. For our supporters, we have extra content, including a chapter about the importance of our ideas being grounded in truth. Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (02:49)Chapter 1: What is Big Data? (04:33)Chapter 2: Is AI/ML Big Data? (17:23)Chapter 3: Our Ideas must Touch Ground Truth [Supporter Only] (59:31)Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opionions & Panic and Recover (01:00:39) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Steve Klabnik - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (02:49) - Prologue (04:33) - Chapter 1: What is Big Data? (17:23) - Chapter 2: Is AI/ML Big Data? (59:31) - Chapter 3: Our Ideas must Touch Ground Truth [Supporter Only] (01:00:39) - Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opionions & Panic and Recover

2025/08/11

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1 小時 18 分鐘
2025/03/31

What Even Is A Senior Software Engineer?

What does it mean to be a senior (or staff) software engineer? How are we preparing the next generation of software engineers to maintain the software we've created? In this episode, Matt and Kris are joined by Bill Kennedy to discuss tech communities, training software engineers, the landscape of learning, how artificial intelligence is affecting it all, and so much more. Supporters get access to an extended conversation with Bill, where we get into more depth on artificial intelligence, the Go team, and more! You can get access by signing up at https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes: The Market for LemonsTable of Contents: Prologue (01:10)Intros & The Rain (01:10)Mr. Gopher Man (02:35)Introducing Bill Kennedy (03:08)Chapter 1: Tech Communities & Software Engineer Training (04:57)From Ultimate Go to Ultimate Software Design Live (04:57)Software Engineers & Criticism (10:01)Saying The Wrong Things (15:12)The Times Have Changed (16:08)You Learn More From Your Mistakes (24:44)Chapter 2: The Learning Landscape (28:25)The trouble with senior engineering (30:10)The difference between programming and coding (35:04)What is legacy? (39:19)It's All About Packages (44:06)Expanding Into Rust (51:23)Chapter 3: Giving Back (59:43)Sustaining open source projects (59:43)Chapter 4: Passing The Baton (01:13:28)The need for written documentation (01:27:50)What AI can do for you (01:33:50)When do you do something? (01:40:57)Epilogue (01:50:05)Helicopter taxi (01:50:34) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Bill Kennedy - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (01:10) - Prologue (04:57) - Chapter 1: Tech Communities & Software Engineer Training (28:25) - Chapter 2: The Learning Landscape (59:43) - Chapter 3: Giving Back (01:13:28) - Chapter 4: Passing The Baton (01:50:05) - Epilogue

2025/03/31

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1 小時 53 分鐘
2025/09/15

Building For The Future

We've all experienced the dreaded rewrite. A system that was promised to last for years has grown so full of technical debt and cruft that we feel we need to throw it out and start over again. How can we avoid this? In this episode, Angelica and Matt are joined by Jon Sabados, where they discuss how to build software that can last long into the future. This week's episode does not have a companion break episode, but check out our backlog if you haven't watched them already! Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show. This week's episode features a bonus chapter for supporters! Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Why Should We Build For The Future? (00:03:13)Chapter 2: Business Value & Future Planning (00:10:18)Chapter 3: Where Do You Start? (00:13:21)Chapter 4: How To Make Decisions Effectively (00:27:35)Chapter 5: Crafting A Solution (00:39:55)Chapter 6: What Does It Actually Mean To Build For The Future? [Supporter Only] (00:47:50)Chapter 7: A Case Study (00:49:57)Chapter 8: Incorporating New Technologies (01:05:07)Chapter 9: Building For The Future Outage (01:08:19)Chapter 10: Final Advice (01:16:34)Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:20:03)Epilogue (01:35:12) Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Angelica Hill - Producer Kris Brandow - Producer Jon Sabados - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (03:13) - Chapter 1: Why Should We Build For The Future? (10:18) - Chapter 2: Business Value & Future Planning (13:21) - Chapter 3: Where Do You Start? (27:35) - Chapter 4: How To Make Decisions Effectively (39:55) - Chapter 5: Crafting A Solution (47:50) - Chapter 6: What Does It Actually Mean To Build For The Future? [Supporter Only] (49:57) - Chapter 7: A Case Study (01:05:07) - Chapter 8: Incorporating New Technologies (01:08:19) - Chapter 9: Building For The Future Outage (01:16:34) - Chapter 10: Final Advice (01:20:03) - Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:35:12) - Epilogue

2025/09/15

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1 小時 36 分鐘
2025/02/24

Ghosttying Go

What's a terminal? Why is it being emulated? On this week's episode, Matt and Kris are joined by Mitchell Hashimoto to discuss his newest project Ghostty, the Zig programming language, thoughts and feelings about Go, and more. As always, catch some Unpopular Opinions at the end of the episode. Want to hear even more from Mitchell? This episode features bonus content for our Fallthrough Fan and above subscribers! Become a supporter and enjoy bonus content and higher quality audio today, and additional perks and benefits when we add them in the future. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes & Links: How to reset the terminal in Ghostty (from 04:41)Ghostty reset keybindingSunsetting Cursed Terminal Emulation (from 18:22)XTGETTCAP in Ghostty (from 23:31)ncurses terminfo database (from 25:14)Gnome VTE (from 36:55)Mongoose embedded web server (from 52:28)libuv (from 52:40)freetype (from 52:44)HarfBuzz (from 52:45)Pixman (from 52:48)libxev (from 52:58)z2d (from 53:01)Scripto Continua (from 01:25:26)Chapters: (00:05) - Intro (00:39) - Become a subscriber: https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe (01:52) - What is Ghostty? (03:47) - Consequences of cat'ing binaries (04:43) - Ghostty's journey to release (06:47) - Ghostty's team structure (08:22) - What terminal are we using? (09:03) - Ghostty's Dev Tools (14:53) - What are escape sequences? (16:57) - What are terminal emulators emulating? (19:50) - The ossification of SSH & Terminfo (27:26) - Ghostty Terminfo workaround (28:38) - Shell in the Ghostty (34:44) - libghostty (38:59) - The most difficult part in implementing Ghostty (42:35) - Why Zig? (46:41) - How to build with Zig (55:35) - The Zig Standard Library (59:00) - Social feedback creates bleh languages (01:02:52) - Go's place in the modern world (01:11:56) - On handling feedback (01:19:45) - Join the Ghostty development community (01:21:35) - Mitchell's thoughts on GitHub (subscriber only) (01:23:02) - Mitchell's Unpop (01:24:21) - Matt's Unpop (01:26:37) - Kris' Duolingo Streak (01:29:29) - Kris' Unpop (01:33:25) - Outro Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Mitchell Hashimoto - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram

2025/02/24

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1 小時 35 分鐘
2025/08/18

What's New in Go 1.25?

It's August, which means we've got a fresh new Go release! In this episode, Kris and Matt pick up the "What's New in Go?" series with an edition for the Go 1.25 release. We've also have a new episode of Break! Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show. This episode contains an extra Unpopular Opinion and lengthy discussion for our supporters. Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes: Go 1.25 Release Notes Table of Contents: Prologue (00:01:19)Chapter 1: Tools (00:03:58)Chapter 2: Runtime (00:16:23)Chapter 3: Compiler (00:25:03)Chapter 4: Standard Library (00:29:59)Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions and Panic & Recover (01:04:38)Epilogue (01:07:45) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (01:19) - Prologue (03:58) - Chapter 1: Tools (16:23) - Chapter 2: Runtime (25:03) - Chapter 3: Compiler (29:59) - Chapter 4: Standard Library (01:04:38) - Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions and Panic & Recover (01:07:45) - Epilogue

2025/08/18

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A deep and nuanced conversational podcast focused on technology, software, and computing.

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Break is a Fallthrough aftershow, where Kris and Matt discuss the shows we record and other random topics.

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Hi! We're Fallthrough Media, a podcast production company. We make podcasts like Fallthrough and it's aftershow, Break.