Thinkers & Builders

Mariagoreth Charles

Conversations By and For Lifelong Learners

Episodes

  1. Four  Game Changing Principles Every Business Owner Needs to Know. Jennifer Shigoli's Story

    14/12/2025

    Four Game Changing Principles Every Business Owner Needs to Know. Jennifer Shigoli's Story

    Jennifer Shigoli, CEO and Founder of Arizona Vocational Training College and ELEA ProductS, shares the four transformative principles that took her businesses from startup to training over 5,000 people across Africa. From selling beads in school at age 16 to becoming a visionary educator and impact-driven entrepreneur, Jennifer's journey about building sustainable businesses in Africa is profound. She studied law but found herself drawn back to entrepreneurship - making detergents, riding on tricycles with jerry cans, and facing rejection from potential clients until she learned one critical lesson: you must brand yourself, not just your product. Jennifer breaks down her four non-negotiable principles for business success: • Start with empathy - Understand the real pain points of those you serve, not what you think they need • Look beyond profits - Design with purpose or money alone will lead you to dangerous places • Build systems and structures - This is what differentiates self-employment from a scalable business • Collaborate to elevate - 40% of a watermelon is better than 100% of a grape Her perspective on pricing is revolutionary: "Pricing doesn't just have to make sense to your customer - it has to make sense to your business. If you're only making customers happy with low prices, you're killing your business." Jennifer shares why she trains competitors to make sanitary pads, how her retired engineer father became a cosmology expert at her company, and why she wishes she had found a mentor from day one. Key insights include why most entrepreneurs get stuck in self-employment instead of building companies, how to attract the right collaborations, and why data systems are non-negotiable even for small businesses. Her vision: One household, one skilled person - a 50 to 100 year plan that she's building brick by brick. Special Offer: Get 15% discount at Arizona Vocational Training College through December 2025. Use code: Thinkers and Builders Arizona 123 For anyone building impact-driven businesses or struggling to balance profit with purpose, Jennifer's frameworks offer both practical systems and the mindset shifts needed to scale sustainably.Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction: Meet Jennifer Shegoli - Visionary Educator and Entrepreneur 00:02:06 From Law to Entrepreneurship: An Unexpected Journey 00:04:30 Early Entrepreneurial Experiences and Family Influence 00:11:53 The Power of Information and Role Models 00:16:27 Starting the Detergent Business: From Pain Point to Solution 00:25:42 The Importance of Personal Branding in Business 00:30:04 Four Guiding Principles for Business Success 00:30:21 Principle One: Understanding Pain Points Through Empathy 00:32:25 Principle Two: Purpose-Driven Business Beyond Profit 00:33:40 Principle Three: Building Systems and Structures for Growth 00:35:56 Principle Four: Collaboration as the Key to Scaling Impact 00:39:48 Birth of Arizona Vocational Training College 00:42:42 The Critical Importance of Skills Development 00:45:36 Finding Balance Between Impact and Profitability 00:50:07 Mastering the Art of Pricing Your Products and Services 00:52:15 Essential Business Systems Every Entrepreneur Needs 00:55:45 Strategic Collaboration: Working with Family and Partners 01:04:15 Special Offer: 15% Discount for Thinkers and Builders 01:06:45 Biggest Business Mistakes and the Power of Mentorship 01:08:36 Staying Grounded Through Faith and Purpose

    1h 11m
  2. Mike Mushi on turning privilege into startup advantage in Africa

    19/10/2025

    Mike Mushi on turning privilege into startup advantage in Africa

    Mike Mushi on turning privilege into statrup advantage in Africa Mike Mushi shares his extraordinary journey that began when his father decided primary education was enough and pushed him into the business world as a teenager.  In this powerful conversation on Thinkers & Builders, Mike reveals how what seemed like a disadvantage - being denied secondary education - became the foundation for understanding privilege differently.  Having access to computers and internet in 1999 Tanzania wasn't just luck; it was a head start that shaped his entire entrepreneurial path.  Now one among the leading voices in Tanzania's startup ecosystem, Mike breaks down why Africa doesn't need to compete on who owns AI technology, but rather on how many people can be uplifted through it. He challenges conventional thinking about startups, explaining why they're not just tech companies but any business with the potential to scale massively with the same inputs.  Key insights from this episode: • Why institutionalizing privilege through startup policies can transform entire economies  • The critical difference between having resources and having the technology to extract value from them  • How Africa can leapfrog development stages just as it did with mobile banking  • Why partnerships fail more startups than bad ideas or lack of funding  • The blueprint for creating national venture funds that attract 10x private investment. Mike's perspective on failure is refreshing - comparing building startups to going to the gym, where each failure builds the muscles needed for the next venture. He advocates for visa programs to attract global talent, arguing that human resources, not minerals or land, are Africa's most crucial asset.  For anyone building in Africa or interested in emerging market entrepreneurship, this conversation offers both practical frameworks and mindset shifts essential for navigating the startup landscape.  Mike's vision: create an environment where youth have more different options to generate income, not just one.Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction: From Child Entrepreneur to Tech Pioneer 00:01:24 Early Privilege and Computer Access in 1999 00:03:02 Working at 13: Building Websites Out of Necessity 00:05:39 AI as Africa's Great Equalizer 00:07:56 Building on Existing Infrastructure vs. Being Consumers 00:09:30 The Critical Importance of Policy and Environment 00:11:17 Institutionalizing Privilege Through Startup Policy 00:12:47 National Venture Capital Funds: Learning from Ghana 00:14:35 What Qualifies as a Startup? 00:18:45 Africa's Resources Need Technology to Extract Value 00:22:24 Attracting Global Talent Through Visa Programs 00:24:47 Creating Multiple Income Options for Youth 00:27:50 Institutionalizing Privilege for Equal Opportunity 00:31:11 Understanding Risk Capital and Investment Flow 00:33:56 Local Funding Models: Learning from Wedding Committees 00:40:42 Embracing Failure as Part of Success 00:45:01 Managing Partnerships: The Biggest Challenge 00:48:07 Youth Taking Ownership of Their Future 00:49:30 Tanzania Startup Week and Building Ecosystems 00:55:56 Finding and Keeping Talent: The Founder's Key Skill

    1h 1m
  3. 03/10/2025

    Healthy Parenting and Family Psychology Expert:You may be raising violent adults.

    What shapes who we become as adults? In this thought-provoking episode, we explore the powerful connection between childhood experiences and adult behavior with Prof. Lusajo Kajula, a Tanzanian international scholar in health behavior and psychology for adolescents and families, and the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health’s first Fulbright Scholar-in-Residence. Mtoto wa Nyoka ni Nyoka/ The child of a snake is a snake: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0886260521997443 00:00 Teaser 00:37 About Prof. Kajula and what she does 01:35 About The Child of a Snake is a Snake research 05:05 Adverse Childhood Events (ACEs)-Traumatic childhood experiences and how they affect children’s personalities 06:20 Most abused children become abusive parnters 06:31 Healthy families raise healthy adults 06:44 Whatever you plant in a child is what they will become 07:16 How to break the cycle 07:56 Healthy Parenting and types of parenting 11:40 How to respond to children and what type of a parent are you? 15:33 Permissive parents raise children who do not know the word no 16:10 These are the best perfoming children as adults 17:05 Do not beat children, do this instead - conscious vs Lazy parenting 21:25 Do absent parents know they are absent? The power of communication, Do intimate relationships equate to danger? 26:20 Girls being warned that men are bad and how it affects them 27:37 It is not an insult to be a single parent. Sometimes Divorce could be the best thing that could happen to children 30:00 Being a single parent is a lot of work - role of the father vs role of the mother 31:02 This is why teenagers detach from their parents and this is what you should do. 33:26 Being a present father 34:49 Partner support to new mothers 33:11 Fathers love to their partner has a positive impact on their children 37:28 The power of understanding each other in marriage 39:37 Is it true that women marry their fathers and males their fathers 41:16 Unbecoming your toxic parents 43:21 Introspection and feedback is necessary in relationships. Enxiety can negatively affect relationships. 48:26 The most painful abuse on earth and how it reflects back on the abuser 50:37 How can single parents balance the missing role 53:18 Fathers should play good cope bad cope and this is why it is important 55:40 It is not too late to be a present parent 59:24 If you notice this in your children consult the Dr. 1:03 Threshold for changing children behaviours and how can parents support 1:06:31 Quality vs Quantity parenting time 1:13:10 Key take away from Prof. Lusajo 1:14:22 Outro

    1h 14m
  4. 20/09/2025

    This is how you can make money in mining without mining - sustainability is the key

    In this conversation, Mariagoreth Charles sits down with Simon Shayo to discuss gold sourcing, where Simon shares sustainability insights from AngloGold Ashanti Tanzania and explains how you can make money in mining without actually mining. Simon Shayo is Vice President for Sustainability and Corporate Affairs at AngloGold Ashanti Africa. He began his career in Tanzania’s energy sector in the early 2000s, working on natural gas projects and rural electrification planning. He transitioned to mining in 2007 with Geita Gold Mining (AngloGold Ashanti Tanzania). After leaving and later rejoining the company, he has spent the past decade with AngloGold Ashanti, where he now oversees sustainability operations across Tanzania, Ghana, Guinea, and Egypt. With over two decades of experience in natural resources and extractive industries, he has witnessed and helped drive the evolution of sustainability from an external consideration to a core business function in mining. 00:00 Teaser 00:27 About Simon Shayo 01:17 How to Make Money in Mining Without Mining 08:59 Why Tracking Gold Prices Will Drive Gold Prices Higher 10:43 Huge Opportunities for Small-Scale Miners to Create Better Livelihoods and Revenue Streams 13:23 How Technology and AI Are Changing the Mining Industry 15:28 How Anglo-Gold Ashanti Is Reducing Its Carbon Emissions 17:10 Lessons from Anglo-Gold Ashanti on Employee Treatment 20:56 Secrets to Hiring and Retaining High-Performing Teams 23:10 Why Contributing to Public Health Challenges Is Necessary 27:40 Intentionality in Ensuring Gender-Inclusive Leadership 29:14 Examples of Women’s Representation in Senior Management at GGM 31:10 What Gets Women Promoted at GGM 31:20 Why Your Gender Equality Plan Will Fail If You Do 34:00 Why Tanzania Receives More Taxes from Anglo-Gold Ashanti Than Any Other Country 36:36 25 Years of Geita Gold Mine 38:11 Thinking of Starting a Mine in Africa? Learn from Anglo-Gold Ashanti 39:37 Simon’s Non-Negotiables 40:16 Outro

    40 min
  5. 06/09/2025

    With this, you do not need collateral to access funds for your business

    In this conversation, Burak Büyüksaraç shares insights on Private Equity (PE) and Venture Capital (VC). He reflects on lessons from his past business experiences, explores the potential of Tanzania’s capital markets, discusses how to identify promising businesses, and explains what it takes to become investor-ready. He also highlights the differences between successful and unsuccessful startups and offers advice to both foreign investors and local investees, among many other topics. Burak is a Turkish serial entrepreneur who has been residing in Tanzania since 2010. He has worked across Türkiye, the Middle East, North Africa, East Africa—particularly Tanzania and the Democratic Republic of Congo—and Europe. In 2024, he founded AFRICAPITAL Investment Holdings Limited, a company specializing in private equity and venture capital services. The firm is dedicated to funding and advancing innovative enterprises and startups in Tanzania. 0:00 Teaser 0:31 Early life lessons 7:39 Early career journey 10:28 Experience working in a family business 11:48 Two lessons from a failed business that can make your business thrive 13:06 If you have a different perspective from most people, you can start a unique business 17:38 Why invest in Tanzania's Capital Markets? 22:10 Foreign investors need to know this 23:33 This is the hotcake right now in the Venture Capital Ecosystem 25:37 Tech funding in Africa compared to other parts of the world 27:31 AI incorporation into businesses 28:55 Understanding Capital Markets 30:30 With this, you do not need collateral to access funds for your business 33:14 Access to funds: Local context vs Global context 34:52 How long can it take to close a deal 36:25 Start by doing this to become investor-ready 38:56 Are you an established company? This is what you need to know to raise funds. 40:38 You need to know this before engaging Africapital 45:14 Working closely with the Government of Tanzania for Vision 2050 48:57 Sustainability positioning - Foreign investors wouldn't be much disappointed 51:22 This is one thing in common that successful startups have 54:00 Listen to this advise if you would like your company to be listed to the Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange in the near future. 55:38 Foreign Investors: this won't work...Investees: this is what you should do. 57:30 The art of staying grounded 59:14 Outro

    59 min

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