Fired By Robots

Aivars Meijers & Paweł Karniej
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Two indie devs, no corporate playbook. Aivars Meijers and Pawel Karniej talk through building apps in public, scaling products, and staying useful while software keeps changing.

  1. 1 day ago

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 13: Apps, AI, and the Search for Leverage

    The conversation covers topics related to mobile apps, AI, freelancing, and business growth. It delves into the sale of apps, revenue generation, YouTube channels, and the transition from contracting to product-based business. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including business focus, B2B opportunities, mobile apps, automations, consulting, and the use of tools like Buzz and Grogbot. The discussion also delves into the changing landscape of hackathons, the emergence of outbeat.lol, and the challenges of gaining visibility for products. Takeaways Mobile AppsAIFreelancingBusiness Growth B2B opportunitiesChanging landscape of hackathonsChallenges of gaining visibility for products Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Weekly Updates02:57 Selling Apps and Revenue Generation08:11 YouTube Channels and Content Creation13:01 App Development and Revenue Multiples16:49 Transition to Product-Based Business24:47 Contracting and Business Growth52:54 Business Focus and B2B Opportunities54:17 The Use of Tools and Platforms01:37:04 The Emergence of outbeat.lol

  2. 14 Aug

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 12: Escaping Apple Hell and Going All-In

    The conversation covers the challenges of app review times, the impact of Apple's ecosystem, and the strategy for content creation and streaming. It also delves into the value of different social media platforms and the importance of discoverability. Paweł discusses his experience with automated content creation for VNOTes using the Fastlane platform, the success of the video meme format on social media, and the impact on VidNotes' growth. He also shares his decision to focus on one app and streamline his app portfolio, as well as his transition to Linux and open-source development. Takeaways App review times are inconsistent and can lead to significant delays in app updates and releases.The value of different social media platforms varies, with live streaming and short-form video content being highlighted as effective strategies for content creation. Automated content creation using the Fastlane platform has been successful for VidNotes, especially with the video meme format.Focusing on one app and streamlining the app portfolio has led to better results and improved focus for Paweł. Chapters 00:00 Content Creation and Streaming Strategy32:06 Automated Content Creation for VNOTes with Fastlane38:10 Focusing on One App and Streamlining the App Portfolio39:49 Participation in Shipaton and Transition to Linux and Open-Source Development

  3. 6 Aug

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 11: The Indie Shift

    The conversation covers topics related to travel, home, Shipathon participation, AI design tools, and the challenges of the App Store review process. It also delves into the changing landscape of app development and the impact of AI on design and development processes. The conversation covers various topics including the value of the App Store, open source projects, the use of speech-to-text applications, the development of B2B products, and the trend of vibecoding websites. The hosts also discuss the importance of focus and the changing landscape of indie development. Takeaways Home and TravelShipathon ParticipationAI Design ToolsChallenges of App Store Review ProcessChanging Landscape of App Development App Store value is decreasing due to the flood of applications and the rise of alternative distribution channels.Open source projects like Parrot and AraPirorot provide valuable features for dictation and language support.Speech-to-text applications offer benefits such as faster input and improved context in prompts.The development of B2B products requires a focus on quality and value to attract and retain customers.Vibecoding websites can generate revenue through ad spots, demonstrating a new trend in indie development. Chapters 00:00 Home and Travel05:08 Shipathon Participation16:43 AI Design Tools29:31 Challenges of App Store Review Process36:49 Changing Landscape of App Development42:54 The Changing Value of the App Store46:42 Open Source Projects and Speech-to-Text Applications51:32 Exploring B2B Product Development01:20:52 Trend of Vibecoding Websites

  4. 31 Jul

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 10: AI Design Is Finally Good

    Paweł and Aivars discuss their holiday plans and the challenges of recording during the holiday season. They encounter technical issues and connection problems, leading to a discussion about product development, feedback threads, open source tools, and the future of software for indie app developers. The conversation also covers AI tools, the Revenue Cat update, selling applications, and Trust MRR. The conversation delves into the evolving mindset of embracing change and creativity, the challenges of managing multiple projects, the importance of deepening focus on existing projects, and the need to protect intellectual property. It also explores cost optimization and scalability, the transition to a manager of agents, automating workflows with cloud co-work, transitioning to cloud-based development, and leveraging cloud design for app development. Takeaways Holiday season challenges for podcast recordingThe future of software and indie app developmentSelling applications and Trust MRR Embracing change and creativity leads to clarity and new opportunities.Deepening focus on existing projects and protecting intellectual property is essential for long-term success. Chapters 00:00 Podcast Introduction and Holiday Update03:06 Technical Issues and Connection Problems04:24 Product Development and Feedback Thread06:01 Open Source Tools and Indie App Development10:07 The Future of Software and Indie Hackers13:25 AI Tools and Revenue Cat Update30:37 Selling Applications and Trust MRR46:43 Embracing Change and Creativity47:42 Managing Multiple Projects49:00 Deepening Focus on Existing Projects50:27 Protecting Intellectual Property51:20 Cost Optimization and Scalability01:02:30 Transition to Manager of Agents01:09:00 Automating Workflows with Cloud Co-Work01:17:28 Transitioning to Cloud-Based Development01:23:47 Leveraging Cloud Design for App Development

  5. 23 Jul

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 9: Are Simple Apps Dead?

    The podcast hosts discuss their recent app development activities, including the implementation of new features and the challenges of building and monetizing Android applications. They also share insights on the 30 Apps Challenge, feedback collection, and the development of a SAS product for feedback collection. Additionally, they explore the idea of participating in a Shipathon to build new applications. The conversation covers topics such as the App Growth Annual Conference, transition in mobile product building, the shift towards courageous and creative ideas, the impact of AI on development, AI's influence on application development, AI's role in writing code, the Subscription Tracker Challenge, and closing thoughts on individual developer projects. The discussion emphasizes the importance of focusing on bigger, more robust, and complex projects as individual developers, and the potential impact of AI on various aspects of development. Takeaways App development challenges and feature implementationFeedback collection and SAS product developmentParticipation in Shipathon for new app development Transitioning towards more courageous and creative ideas in mobile product buildingThe importance of focusing on bigger, more robust, and complex projects as individual developers Chapters 00:00 Podcast Introduction and Weekly Updates01:01 App Development and Feature Implementation04:07 Inspiration from Video Content and Building New Features07:27 Building Android Applications and Monetization12:45 30 Apps Challenge and Feedback Collection25:09 Building a SAS Product for Feedback Collection37:01 Feedback Collection and Shipathon Participation43:38 App Growth Annual Conference46:13 Transition in Mobile Product Building49:35 Shift Towards Courageous and Creative Ideas52:26 Impact of AI on Development01:05:59 AI's Influence on Application Development01:11:20 AI's Role in Writing Code01:19:48 Subscription Tracker Challenge01:24:00 Closing Thoughts

  6. 17 Jul

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 8: Is AI Coding Actually Better Than Coding by Hand?

    The conversation covers the challenges of coding by hand versus AI-assisted coding, the complexities of the recruitment process, the transition to product-focused work, and the use of Fable and Codex in development. The conversation delves into the challenges of content creation, the ongoing developments in AI hardware and software, and the future impact of AI on everyday life. It explores the struggle with content creation, the lawsuit between Apple and OpenAI, and the potential for AI-native operating systems. The discussion also highlights the increasing use of AI by non-technical individuals and the evolving capabilities of AI models and code. Takeaways Coding by hand vs. AI-assisted codingRecruitment process challengesTransition to product-focused workUse of Fable and Codex in development Content creation challengesAI hardware and software developmentThe future of AI and its impact on everyday life Chapters 00:00 Coding by Hand vs. AI-Assisted Coding03:09 Challenges in the Recruitment Process09:00 Transition to Product-Focused Work31:12 Use of Fable and Codex in Development40:44 Content Creation Challenges58:22 AI Hardware and Software Development01:10:04 The Future of AI and Its Impact on Everyday Life

  7. 3 Jul

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 7: Is Mobile Apps Buisness Model For You?

    The conversation covers topics related to climate and environment, the popularity of AC in Europe, challenges and successes in app development, and considerations for B2B and B2C business models. The discussion delves into climate differences between countries, the debate on the popularity of AC in Europe, app revenue and marketing strategies, and the exploration of service-based business models. The conversation covers various topics related to app development, app revenue, AI models, and the implications of using AI-generated applications. It also delves into the considerations for selling and buying indie applications, the costs and efficiency of AI models, and the impact of AI model usage on coding and development. Additionally, the conversation highlights the increasing use of AI models and tools, as well as the rising costs associated with their usage. Takeaways Climate differences between countriesDiscussion on the popularity of AC in EuropeChallenges and successes in app developmentConsiderations for B2B and B2C business models AI-generated applications are becoming increasingly commonThe use of AI models and tools is becoming more expensive Chapters 00:00 Climate and Environment12:54 App Development Challenges30:56 B2B vs B2C Business Models43:43 Freelancing and Human Management49:18 Selling Indie Applications55:08 Selling and Buying Applications01:05:17 AI Models and Open Source01:11:14 AI Model Costs and Usage01:16:19 AI Model Efficiency and Usage01:23:35 Coding with AI and AI Model Costs

  8. 25 Jun

    Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 6: Content & Challenges

    The conversation covers various aspects of app development, marketing, and revenue generation. It delves into data mining, app revenue, marketing strategies, app subscriptions, app development, ASO, influencer marketing, app niche targeting, content marketing, YouTube content strategy, and app promotion insights. The conversation covers a wide range of topics related to content creation, including content strategy, algorithm changes, audience targeting, language localization, and mobile app development. The discussion delves into the impact of algorithm changes on video recommendations, the challenges of single developer content creation, and the localization of content for different markets and audiences. Additionally, the conversation explores the audience demographics and language preferences, as well as the strategies for building public content and business through content marketing and coaching. Takeaways Data mining and analysis are crucial for app development and revenue generation.App store optimization (ASO) and influencer marketing play significant roles in app promotion and revenue generation. Algorithm changes impact video recommendationsLocalization of content is essential for audience targeting and engagement Chapters 00:00 Data Mining and Analysis05:57 App Marketing Strategies11:02 Influencer Marketing for Apps17:14 App Promotion and Marketing Insights23:09 Content Localization and Audience Targeting29:21 Content Creation and Regional Audience36:43 Content Creation and Audience Demographics43:20 Content Creation and Population Demographics

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Two indie devs, no corporate playbook. Aivars Meijers and Pawel Karniej talk through building apps in public, scaling products, and staying useful while software keeps changing.

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    Aivars Meijers & Paweł Karniej
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    2026
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