iGaming Real Talk

Surya Palli

iGaming Real Talk is a podcast where real conversations take centre stage. We speak with founders, creators, and leaders. Most of them come from the iGaming world, and some from beyond. We talk openly about what it really takes to grow, lead, and keep going. If you're building something of your own, leading a team, or simply figuring things out, you'll find something here that resonates. Hosted by Surya Palli, suryapalli.com Join our community on WhatsApp igamingrealtalk.com

  1. 22 hr ago

    SiGMA Poker Tour | Women in Poker, Live Events & Emerging iGaming Markets | Ivonne Montealegre

    In episode 74 of iGaming Real Talk, Surya sits down with Ivonne Montealegre from SiGMA Poker Tour to discuss poker, business, failure, women in poker and the growth of live poker across emerging markets. Ivonne shares how she went from psychology and radio in Los Angeles to iGaming and eventually building a career around poker. She explains what poker has taught her about failure, risk-taking and business, and why the lessons from the table can apply far beyond the game. What the industry is facing: Live poker going through a new wave of growth after the pandemic Women still needing more confidence and opportunities to enter poker Emerging poker markets facing regulatory and jurisdiction challenges Online poker needing to keep players entertained and socially engaged Operators looking for stronger ways to connect with players and communities A new generation of players changing how poker is experienced What this conversation explores: Why poker teaches people how to deal with failure and take risks The growth of the SiGMA Poker Tour across Brazil, Malta and Manila Why Africa could become an important emerging market for live poker How poker events bring players, affiliates, operators and influencers together What to expect from the SiGMA Poker Tour in Sri Lanka The future of online poker, streaming and AI Ivonne's vision for the future of the SiGMA Poker Tour Brought to you by:Thunderspin --------Hosted by Surya PalliConnect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suryapalli28/For podcast sponsorship and collabs: surya@igamingrealtalk.comCheck out igamingrealtalk.com-------- Chapters 00:00 - What Can Poker Teach You About Failure? 01:10 - Meet Ivonne Montealegre 02:26 - From Psychology & Radio to iGaming 06:08 - What Poker Teaches Us About Failure 07:38 - How Poker Empowers Women 08:29 - The Growth of the SiGMA Poker Tour 15:00 - Where Is Poker Growing Next? 20:07 - AI & the Future of Online Poker 23:05 - Ivonne's Vision for the SPT 25:18 - Ivonne's Message to the iGaming Community Episode of iGaming Real Talk with Ivonne Montealegre from SiGMA Poker Tour.

  2. 2 days ago

    What Makes a Brand Unforgettable? | Marketing, Campaigns & Strategy | Irina Veselkova, Endorphina

    In episode 73 of iGaming Real Talk, recorded at iGB Live London, our host Surya Palli was with Irina Veselkova, Head of Marketing at Endorphina, to discuss creative B2B marketing, event campaigns, LinkedIn engagement and what actually makes people remember a brand. Irina explains the thinking behind Endorphina Kingdom, why interactive experiences can make a campaign more memorable, and how Endorphina adapts its marketing approach to different markets. What the industry is facing: Brands competing for attention at crowded iGaming events B2B marketing becoming harder to stand out with Different markets responding to different creative concepts bLinkedIn's changing algorithm making performance harder to predict B2B audiences engaging more with people and personal content Brands needing to test different formats to understand what works What this conversation explores: Why Endorphina Kingdom is built around interaction rather than just branding How Endorphina adapted its campaign for the LATAM market Why a strong creative idea can be more memorable than a big exhibition stand Why people and faces matter in B2B content How LinkedIn engagement is influenced by relationships and communities Why marketers need to keep testing different content formats What's next for Endorphina's events and marketing plans What the company has planned for the rest of 2026 ------- Brought to you by:St8: https://st8.io/Endorphina: https://endorphina.com/ -------- Hosted by Surya PalliConnect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suryapalli28/For podcast sponsorship and collabs: surya@igamingrealtalk.comCheck out igamingrealtalk.com -------- Chapters 00:00 - What Makes People Remember a Brand? 01:18 - Meeting Irina at the Endorphina Stand 01:32 - What Is Endorphina Kingdom? 03:50 - Adapting Campaigns for Different Markets 05:12 - What's Happening With B2B Marketing on LinkedIn? 05:30 - LinkedIn's Changing Algorithm 06:21 - Why Content With People Works 06:38 - Do People Engage With the Content or the Person? 07:27 - Endorphina's Plans for 2026

  3. 20 Aug

    Self-Exclusion Isn’t Enough: The Future of Player Safety | Alec Gehlot, PlaySignal

    In Episode 72 of iGaming Real Talk, recorded at iGB Live in London, our host Surya Palli was with Alec Gehlot, Founder & CEO of PlaySignal, to discuss the problems around self-exclusion, responsible gaming and what operators can do before players reach the point of self-exclusion. Alec explains why self-exclusion may not be the safety net the industry thinks it is, why players can fall through the gap, and how operators can identify behavioural changes earlier. What the industry is facing: Self-exclusion numbers are rising rapidly Players can fall through the gap before reaching self-exclusion Operators often have limited tools around the journey towards self-exclusion Players who self-exclude can become targets for the black market Responsible gaming interventions can feel like a short-term revenue risk Operators need to focus more on sustainable players and lifetime value What this conversation explores: How PlaySignal identifies behavioural signals before self-exclusion Why responsible gaming interventions should be protective, not punishing How early intervention can support long-term player value Why regulated operators need to think differently from the black market Why building trust with players could become a competitive advantage for regulated operators What the future of responsible gaming could look like Brought to you by: St8: https://st8.io/ Endorphina: https://endorphina.com/

  4. 17 Aug

    Fake Streamers, Bad Traffic & iGaming Marketing | Part 2 | Levon Nikoghosyan, AffPapa

    In Episode 71 of The Real Roadshow and In Part 2 of our conversation with Levon Nikoghosyan, CEO of AffPapa, we get into the problems behind affiliate marketing, fake streamer numbers, creative campaigns, team building and what it actually takes to scale an iGaming business. Levon explains why relying on one marketing channel is risky, why operators need to verify streamer traffic before spending money, and why traditional B2B marketing is becoming harder to stand out with. What the industry is facing: Fake streamer numbers and inflated traffic Operators relying too heavily on one marketing channel Affiliate fraud and unverified traffic B2B gaming marketing becoming repetitive Companies playing too safe with creative campaigns Teams scaling faster than their internal systems and remote teams struggling without clear KPIs What this conversation explores: Why operators need a multi-channel marketing strategy How AffPapa is verifying streamers and their traffic Why iGaming brands need to experiment with marketing How AffPapa deals with affiliate and operator complaints Why responsibility and curiosity matter when building teams How clear KPIs make remote work possible Why success is a process, not a final number What keeps Levon building AffPapa for the long term Episode 71 of iGaming Real Talk. NOW LIVE on YouTube. Brought to you by: St8: https://st8.io/ Endorphina: https://endorphina.com/ -------- Hosted by Surya Palli Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suryapalli28/ For podcast sponsorship and collabs: surya@igamingrealtalk.com Check out igamingrealtalk.com   -------- Chapters 00:00 – Fake Streamers & Inflated Numbers 01:26 – Why One Marketing Channel Isn't Enough 03:03 – How AffPapa Handles Streamers 05:18 – The Philosophy Behind AffPapa's Marketing 06:18 – Why Traditional B2B Marketing Isn't Working 07:25 – Learning From Other Industries 08:18 – When Marketing Trends Become Mainstream 09:32 – Why iGaming Marketing Is Still Old-School 11:36 – Why Brands Need to Experiment 12:29 – Building AffPapa From the Ground Up 13:39 – Fighting Affiliate Fraud & Bad Traffic 15:23 – Building a 40+ Person Team 17:23 – What Makes a Good Leader? 20:00 – Building Teams in Armenia 21:13 – Remote Work vs Office Culture 22:00 – Why KPIs Matter 23:31 – The Problem With Scaling Too Fast 24:08 – What Does Success Mean? 25:56 – Is There a Number That Means "Enough"? 27:22 – Why Small Wins Keep Us Going 28:16 – What Keeps Levon Building? Part 2 of our conversation with Levon Nikoghosyan, CEO of AffPapa.

  5. 10 Aug

    The biggest Mistake Companies Make with AI | David Harris and Vlad Bondarenko | ReferOn

    AI can build an app. But can it understand an iGaming business? In Part 2 of iGaming Real Talk, David Harris and Vlad Bondarenko from ReferOn go beyond affiliate tracking to talk about AI, product development, legacy systems, migrations, and what it really takes to build B2B software for iGaming. The industry is moving fast, but some problems are still very familiar: Legacy affiliate platforms that are difficult to move away from Large operators stuck with old workflows and systems Long and complex platform migrations Product teams building features users may not actually need An iGaming industry that can be slow to adopt ideas from other industries The growing pressure to use AI without simply adding it because it's the latest buzzword Finding the balance between automation and human relationships Building software that feels simple in an industry full of complex systems This conversation looks at how ReferOn is tackling some of these problems. Using AI for real tasks like QA, prototyping and creating tracking links Looking outside iGaming to find better product ideas, with examples from crypto, finance and gaming Building around real customer problems instead of guessing what users want Making migrations easier by understanding how operators actually work day to day Showing users how the product fits their workflow, rather than forcing them to learn a completely new way of working Keeping the human side of iGaming alive, even as more parts of the business become automated Using automation to make work easier, rather than using AI simply for the sake of saying a product has AI The conversation also gets personal, with Vlad sharing his approach to hiring, why he looks for the “spark in the eyes,” and why David believes relationships and human connection still matter in iGaming. They also discuss ReferOn's management buyout, the future of affiliate management platforms, and where the space could be heading next. Whether you're an operator, affiliate manager, product leader, or simply interested in the future of iGaming technology, this conversation offers valuable insights into one of the industry's fastest-evolving infrastructure categories. -------- Brought to you by: My Gaming License: https://www.mygaminglicense.com/ 9th Street Games: https://9thstreet.games/

  6. 6 Aug

    Regulated iGaming Explained: ST8's Strategy for UK, Ontario & Alberta | David Fall | St8

    Every game aggregator says they have great content. So what actually makes operators choose one over another? David Fall, Business Development Manager at St8 addressed our curiosity here.  The game aggregation market is crowded. Almost every company says they have the best platform, the best technology and the best content. But operators today are dealing with much bigger challenges than choosing another API. In this episode, we talk about: Why regulated markets are becoming the biggest focus for aggregators What operators actually need from a game aggregation partner Why personalization still matters in a technology business The biggest challenges operators face in regulated markets Expanding into Ontario, Alberta, the UK and other licensed jurisdictions How St8 plans to compete with larger, established aggregators Why trust and transparency matter when working with operators The future of casino game aggregation One thing I found interesting was David's mindset. St8 doesn't try to be the biggest company in the room. They openly call themselves the underdog. Their focus is building long-term relationships with operators and growing market by market. If you work with casino platforms, game aggregation, regulated markets or operator partnerships, this conversation gives a good look into how one of the newer players is approaching the industry. Guest David Fall : https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-fall-5a3875158/ Business Development Manager, St8 About St8 St8 is a fully licensed casino game aggregator and full-service technology provider helping operators launch, manage and scale in regulated markets.  To learn more about St8, please visit https://st8.io/  Brought to you by: St8: https://st8.io/  Endorphina : https://endorphina.com/

  7. 4 Aug

    AI, Fraud & Affiliate Marketing: What Operators Need to Know | Levon Nikoghosyan | AffPapa

    Affiliate Marketing Has a Bigger Problem Than Traffic. The more people I speak to in this industry, the more I realise that the biggest risk isn't finding affiliates. Because let’s assume you find 10 good affiliates, are you sure that all their past results are their own and not some fake screenshots, AI-generated reports or maybe edited screenshots? Presenting you Episode 67 with Levon Nikoghosyan, CEO of  @affpapa  ,where we understand how affiliate marketing is changing, and whether the industry is actually keeping up. In this episode, we discuss: - Why affiliate fraud is becoming more sophisticated - How AI is making fake reports look real - Operators getting scammed repeatedly - The debate around affiliate listing fees - Why trust is becoming harder to build - Where affiliate marketing is heading next One thing I liked about this conversation is that he didn't pretend there was one perfect solution. Levon has seen these problems from every angle, as a platform, working with operators, affiliates, and brands. He made this discussion practical instead of theoretical. If you work with affiliates, manage affiliate partnerships, or run an iGaming business, this episode will help you think about: - How operators can better protect themselves - What affiliates should expect from platforms - Where AI is helping and where it's creating new risks - What needs to change if the industry wants stronger partnerships Follow Levon’s Journey (https://www.linkedin.com/in/levon-nikoghosyan/) Affpapa (https://affpapa.com/) Subscribe to iGaming Real Talk for honest conversations with the people building the iGaming industry. Hosted by Surya Palli. Sponsored by: MyGamingLicense and 9th Street Media. -------- Brought to you by: My Gaming License: https://www.mygaminglicense.com/ 9th Street Games: https://9thstreet.games/

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iGaming Real Talk is a podcast where real conversations take centre stage. We speak with founders, creators, and leaders. Most of them come from the iGaming world, and some from beyond. We talk openly about what it really takes to grow, lead, and keep going. If you're building something of your own, leading a team, or simply figuring things out, you'll find something here that resonates. Hosted by Surya Palli, suryapalli.com Join our community on WhatsApp igamingrealtalk.com

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