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  1. Bridget Carleton on Her Journey from Getting Waived to Becoming the Face of the Portland Fire

    1일 전

    Bridget Carleton on Her Journey from Getting Waived to Becoming the Face of the Portland Fire

    Bridget Carleton of the Portland Fire joins Sue Bird this week on the Bird’s Eye View podcast. Bridget made history as the first player to officially sign with the Fire, one of the WNBA’s two new expansion teams. They discuss adapting to Alex Sarama’s constraints-led approach to coaching, the Fire’s mindset for finishing out the season, and matching up against each other during the 2020 semifinals. Bridget also opens up about how getting waived by the Connecticut Sun then picked up by the Minnesota Lynx her rookie year was the best thing for her career. But first during “Sue’s View,” Sue reflects on Nneka Ogwumike’s legacy both on and off the court and assesses where the Atlanta Dream may ultimately end up in the playoff seeding. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/   Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird   Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/  Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  2. Honoring Diana Taurasi’s Legacy and Navigating the WNBA’s Growing Pains with Ramona Shelburne

    8월 21일

    Honoring Diana Taurasi’s Legacy and Navigating the WNBA’s Growing Pains with Ramona Shelburne

    Ramona Shelburne, ESPN’s NBA Insider and Senior Writer, joins Sue Bird for a new episode of the Bird's Eye View podcast. Ramona is one of the most respected and trusted voices in sports journalism because of her commitment to reporting with integrity and compassion. She’s profiled athletes across all sports but specifically Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, and Caitlin Clark from the world of basketball. This week on the pod, Sue and Ramona discuss the current state of sports media, how team ownership impacts on-court results, and her favorite storylines from this season of the WNBA. Ramona also explains what’s going on behind the scenes of the historic $12.5 billion-sale of the Los Angeles Lakers and her approach to covering the WNBA in today’s climate. Plus, Sue takes a moment during “Sue’s View” to reflect on the Phoenix Mercury retiring Diana Taurasi’s jersey and to honor the legacy of her dear friend. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/   Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird   Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/  Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  3. Pablo Torre on Investigating Billionaires, Journalism Risks, and getting heckled by Knicks Fans

    2일 전

    Pablo Torre on Investigating Billionaires, Journalism Risks, and getting heckled by Knicks Fans

    “It was so demystifying because a lot of these people are f*cking stupid” This week, journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner Pablo Torre joins Megan on the show. But first,  Megan sounds off about the latest WNBA controversy surrounding Enes Kanter in the latest edition of “Are You Serious?” Then Megan and Pablo dive into the highs, lows and unexpected turns that landed Torre at the helm of his show “Pablo Torre Finds Out.” Megan finds out how the New York native strikes fear into the hearts of sports teams and Pablo flips the script to get Megan to answer a spicy question. Check out the latest episode of  “Why Are You Like This?” wherever you get your podcasts, and on YouTube. Follow Megan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrapinoe/  Follow A Touch More on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whyareyoulikethis/  Follow A Touch More on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whyareyoulikethis Learn more about A Touch More here: https://www.atouchmore.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  4. W Kamau Bell on East Bay Lesbians, Right Wing Grifters, and United Shades of America

    8월 20일

    W Kamau Bell on East Bay Lesbians, Right Wing Grifters, and United Shades of America

    This week, Megan is joined by stand-up comedian and director W. Kamau Bell. They dig into the “whys” behind some of Kamau’s biggest decisions, like holding space for Ted Danson to talk about his Blackface scandal, his approach to dealing with trolls, and launching his new podcast “Are You With Me?” Plus they wonder if Megyn Kelly is lowkey flirting with them and Kamau goes off about social media in a new segment called “What Are We Doing?!” Check out the latest episode of  “Why Are You Like This?” wherever you get your podcasts, and on YouTube. Follow Megan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrapinoe/  Follow A Touch More on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whyareyoulikethis/  Follow A Touch More on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whyareyoulikethis Learn more about A Touch More here: https://www.atouchmore.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  5. Dominique Malonga on Growing Up with Wemby and Building Chemistry with Awa Fam & Flau’jae Johnson

    8월 14일

    Dominique Malonga on Growing Up with Wemby and Building Chemistry with Awa Fam & Flau’jae Johnson

    On this week’s episode of Bird’s Eye View, Sue Bird talks to Seattle Storm rising star Dominique Malonga about having Wemby as a peer, going pro at fifteen, and becoming a versatile post player. Dominique opens up about what it was like to transition from playing professional basketball in France to playing in the WNBA, how she plans to continue diversifying her post game (dunking is involved), and the lessons from this season that she, Awa Fam and Flau’jae Johnson will carry with them into next season. Plus in Sue’s View, Sue speculates who may still have a chance to sneak into the top eight in a new segment called “The Superpower vs. Achilles Heel.”  Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/   Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird   Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/  Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  6. Cheryl Reeve on The StudBudz, the 2016 Lynx and Becoming the Winningest Coach in WNBA History

    8월 13일

    Cheryl Reeve on The StudBudz, the 2016 Lynx and Becoming the Winningest Coach in WNBA History

    Live from WNBA All Star Weekend, Megan is joined by the winningest coach in WNBA history and five-time All-Star coach Cheryl Reeve. They discuss how she supported the 2016 Lynx’s protest against police brutality, Cheryl’s stellar t-shirt collection, and how the StudBudz changed her approach to coaching. Plus, Cheryl decides if she’s more “Mommy,” “Daddy” or “Baby.”  Why Are You Like This? is a co-production of A Touch More and Vox Media Podcast Network. New episodes every Thursday. Follow Megan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrapinoe/  Follow A Touch More on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whyareyoulikethis/  Follow A Touch More on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whyareyoulikethis Learn more about A Touch More here: https://www.atouchmore.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  7. Paige Bueckers on Battling Injury with Grace, Playing with Azzi in the W, and the Wings’ Ascension

    7월 24일

    Paige Bueckers on Battling Injury with Grace, Playing with Azzi in the W, and the Wings’ Ascension

    This week, Bird’s Eye View welcomes Paige Bueckers to the pod. Paige opens up about what it’s been like living with the expectations, pressures, and injuries that have followed her since high school. She and Sue dissect how the contributions of Arike Ogunbowale, Jessica Shepard, Azzi Fudd and Paige herself have made the Dallas Wings a winning team. Plus, Paige dishes on what to expect from the new UConn documentary coming out later this summer. In Sue’s View, Sue assesses the league standings headed into All-Star Weekend, predicts who will win the Three-Point Contest, and breaks down how A’ja Wilson’s three-point shooting has leveled up. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/   Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird   Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/  Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  8. Kayla McBride on Becoming an Elite Two-Way Guard, Cheryl Reeve’s Leadership, and Her Lightning-Fast Release

    8월 7일

    Kayla McBride on Becoming an Elite Two-Way Guard, Cheryl Reeve’s Leadership, and Her Lightning-Fast Release

    This week on Bird’s Eye View, Sue Bird is joined by Minnesota Lynx All-Star Kayla McBride to discuss her offensive surge, defensive growth, and how the Lynx is integrating Napheesa Collier back into the rotation. Kayla reflects on practicing against Skylar Diggins and Jewell Lloyd as Notre Dame undergrads, how she developed her lightning-quick shooting release, and what it’s like playing alongside Olivia Miles and Natasha Howard under Cheryl Reeve’s demanding leadership. And in Sue’s View, Sue recaps the trade deadline, diving into the Mercury’s acquisition of Kelsey Plum, and all the draft implications, playoff pushes, and roster-building strategy. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/ Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  9. Kristen Kish on Overcoming Fears on Top Chef, Korean Cinderella and Finding Her Queer Identity

    8월 6일

    Kristen Kish on Overcoming Fears on Top Chef, Korean Cinderella and Finding Her Queer Identity

    On the inaugural episode of “Why Are You Like This?” Megan Rapinoe sits down with Top Chef host Kristen Kish. Kish took the culinary world and media space by storm after becoming the second female winner of Top Chef. The duo dig into how Kristen came out to herself, why she doesn’t yell at others in the kitchen and what success looks like to her.  And Megan sounds off on the recent discourse around transgender athletes and sports in the segment “Are You Serious?” Why Are You Like This? is a co-production of A Touch More and Vox Media Podcast Network. New episodes every Thursday. Follow Megan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrapinoe/  Follow A Touch More on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whyareyoulikethis/  Follow A Touch More on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whyareyoulikethis Learn more about A Touch More here: https://www.atouchmore.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  10. Courtney Vandersloot’s Not Done: Her Return to the Court, State of the Sky, and Chasing Sue’s Record

    7월 31일

    Courtney Vandersloot’s Not Done: Her Return to the Court, State of the Sky, and Chasing Sue’s Record

    Bird’s Eye View is on the ground in Chicago for a special live show recorded during WNBA All-Star weekend! Sue sits down with five-time All-Star and Chicago Sky legend Courtney Vandersloot for her first podcast interview ever. They discuss Sloot’s return to the court post-ACL tear, her two championship runs, whether she'll break Sue’s all-time assists record, and the significance of having All-Star in Chicago. Plus, Sue and Sloot are joined by a surprise guest. Before that all goes down, Sue answers some audience questions, where the tradition of answering a brutal Start/Bench/Cut continues. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/   Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird   Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/  Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  11. Abby Wambach Joins Megan Rapinoe's Special World Cup Series

    6월 11일

    Abby Wambach Joins Megan Rapinoe's Special World Cup Series

    Megan kicks off her World Cup series, A Touch More: The Beautiful Game, with soccer icon Abby Wambach.  Abby and Megan get into some things they’ve never talked about publicly before, like their relationship over the years and how they influenced each other on and off the field. And Abby gets honest about what success in the World Cup has meant to her, why she delayed coming out, and what matters to her now.  Plus, Megan breaks down the new format of the World Cup with a historic 48 countries participating, shouts out the players she’s most excited about watching, and gives her hottest takes on who she predicts will win it all. A Touch More: The Beautiful Game is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  12. Brittney Griner on Learning to Stand Tall, Surviving Russia, and Getting Back to her Authentic Self

    6월 19일

    Brittney Griner on Learning to Stand Tall, Surviving Russia, and Getting Back to her Authentic Self

    This week, Sue welcomes Brittney Griner to Bird's Eye View for a deeply personal conversation about her basketball journey, how she’s overcome the most extreme adversity, and how she found her voice as a veteran mentor. BG opens up about her harrowing 10-month detention in Russia and the long road to mental and physical recovery that followed upon her release. After a historic, championship-winning 11-year run with the Mercury and a pit stop with the Dream, BG finds herself mentoring a young Connecticut Sun squad, and looking forward to the franchise's upcoming relocation to her hometown of Houston in 2027. And she happily shares that she's finally turned a corner and is throwing down two-handed dunks again. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/  Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird  Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  13. Brittney Sykes and Marina Mabrey on Becoming Franchise Players and Putting the Tempo on the Map

    7월 10일

    Brittney Sykes and Marina Mabrey on Becoming Franchise Players and Putting the Tempo on the Map

    The Toronto Tempo’s Brittney Sykes and Marina Mabrey join Sue on this week’s episode of Bird’s Eye View. Brittney and Marina both signed two-year max contracts with the Tempo, making them the first known million-dollar backcourt since the new CBA. They’ve become one of the most dominant scoring duos this season and a major reason why the Tempo are near the top of the league in team scoring. Brittney and Marina talk about how growing up playing New Jersey basketball informed their game, channeling their combined 18 years of experience into productively leading a first-year team, and what it means to represent an entire country every time they step on the court. But first on Sue’s View, Sue reacts to the starters selected for this year’s All-Star game and finally breaks her silence on the viral sideline moment between her and Las Vegas Aces’ player Jackie Young during the 2026 Commissioner’s Cup final.   Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/  Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird  Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  14. Natasha Cloud Opens Up About Her Free Agency, Joining the Chicago Sky, and Her Social Activism

    6월 5일

    Natasha Cloud Opens Up About Her Free Agency, Joining the Chicago Sky, and Her Social Activism

    This week’s Sue welcomes Natasha Cloud of the Chicago Sky to the show! Natasha discusses her career through college, to winning a championship with the Washington Mystics, to playing for the Phoenix Mercury, New York Liberty, and Chicago Sky. She also shares the details of her departure from the Liberty and her free agency journey this past offseason, what went into her decision to opt of the 2020 WNBA season, her mindset regarding social activism, and much much more. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/  Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird  Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  15. Jordin Canada on Developing her Playmaking and Finding the Perfect Fit with the Atlanta Dream

    7월 17일

    Jordin Canada on Developing her Playmaking and Finding the Perfect Fit with the Atlanta Dream

    Jordin Canada has only gotten better with age. She’s second in the league in steals (behind her Dream teammate Rhyne Howard), and she’s averaging 11.3 points per game. That’s double her average from when she first entered the league nearly ten years ago. Jordin stopped by Bird’s Eye View to talk about how her playmaking has evolved since her days as a rookie on the 2018 Seattle Storm squad, the road to playing for the Dream, and why she feels like 2026 is her best season yet.Sue kicks off the episode to give flowers to Azzi Fudd, Olivia Miles, and Kayla McBride for setting new personal and league records. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/   Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird   Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/  Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  16. Kaitlyn Chen on Her Journey From Princeton to Ballhalla, Staying Aggressive, and Forging Her Own Identity

    6월 26일

    Kaitlyn Chen on Her Journey From Princeton to Ballhalla, Staying Aggressive, and Forging Her Own Identity

    In this episode, Sue chats with Golden State Valkyries guard Kaitlyn Chen (who happened to be calling in using her backcourt partner Veronica Burton’s iPad!). Entering her second WNBA season, Kaitlyn reflects on her unique path to the pros—from anchoring a dominant program at Princeton to playing a more strategic role on UConn’s championship team alongside Paige and Azzi, and navigating the emotional roller coaster of her rookie WNBA season.Kaitlyn shares what it means to be the first Taiwanese-American player in the WNBA, playing under the league's first Japanese-American head coach, Natalie Nakase, while embracing the passionate Bay Area fan base. She also breaks down how she handles the fast-changing business of the league, finding her voice as a leader, and maintaining an aggressive edge on the court against the “talls.” Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/  Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird  Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  17. Monica McNutt on the W’s Youth Movement, the Unstoppable Lynx, and Celebrating with the Knicks

    7월 3일

    Monica McNutt on the W’s Youth Movement, the Unstoppable Lynx, and Celebrating with the Knicks

    In this episode Sue welcomes ESPN analyst and Knicks game announcer Monica McNutt to talk about all the latest W trends and storylines, from Olivia Miles’ impressive poise in Cheryl Reeve’s system, why young talent seems to be blowing up this year, and which teams are legit contenders in the East. Sue and Monica also dive into the Knicks’ title run, what the championship means to her and the people of New York, and how the fans have embraced her viral reaction videos.In Sue’s View, Sue has some thoughts about the WNBA season expanding to 50 games next year, the surge in league scoring, and celebrates the new Women’s Basketball Hall of Fame class featuring Candace Parker, Elena Delle Donne, Cheryl Reeve, and Doris Burke. Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/  Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird  Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  18. Megan Rapinoe & Ali "Warrior Princess" Krieger on Heartbreak, Coming Out & Where Women’s Soccer is Headed

    7월 2일

    Megan Rapinoe & Ali "Warrior Princess" Krieger on Heartbreak, Coming Out & Where Women’s Soccer is Headed

    As part of her special World Cup series, Megan talks to two-time World Cup Champion, Ali Krieger. Megan and Ali talk about the overlaps in their careers as both teammates on the USWNT and opponents in the NWSL; what it really meant to Ali to win the NWSL Championship for Gotham FC in her final year in the league; and how playing in Germany helped her discover her sexuality and voice as an advocate.  Megan also ticks through her takes on the most exciting knockout matchups over the next few days, and what it’s like when your team’s World Cup run comes to an end. Reminder: A Touch More: The Beautiful Game LIVE is coming to New York City, Megan will sit down with a very special guest on July 17th, right before the finals of the World Cup, presented by Norwegian Cruise Line. Grab your tickets at voxmedia.com/megan  A Touch More: The Beautiful Game is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  19. Megan Rapinoe & Rose Lavelle on Her Debut World Cup and Setting Records with Gotham FC.

    7월 19일

    Megan Rapinoe & Rose Lavelle on Her Debut World Cup and Setting Records with Gotham FC.

    Wrapping up her special World Cup series, Megan talks to World Cup Champion, Olympic Gold Medalist, and NWSL Champion with Gotham FC Rose Lavelle. Megan and Rose discuss Gotham’s record-setting game at Citi Field and her stunning return to the beautiful game after ankle surgery. The duo also reminisce on their 2019 World Cup winning campaign.  And because the tournament is almost over, it’s time for the most prestigious awards show: The Meggies!  ALSO: Megan is doing a live show with a special guest in Chicago on July 24th as part of Vox Media’s The Lineup. Your ticket gets you all-day access to food, drinks, and the energy of one of the biggest women’s basketball events of the year. Get your tickets at voxmedia.com/thelineup. And here's a little bonus for ya:  if you also grab tickets to a live taping of ANDMOM with Skylar Diggins and Cassidy Hubbarth, you can bundle both events and save 30% with code AFTERNOON30.  A Touch More: The Beautiful Game is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Megan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrapinoe/  Follow A Touch More on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atouchmore/  Follow A Touch More on X: https://x.com/atouchmore  Follow A Touch More on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@atouchmore  Learn more about A Touch More here: https://www.atouchmore.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  20. Naz Hillmon on Expanding her Range, Her Family’s Basketball Roots, and Atlanta’s Championship Dreams

    6월 12일

    Naz Hillmon on Expanding her Range, Her Family’s Basketball Roots, and Atlanta’s Championship Dreams

    This week, Sue sits down with Atlanta Dream forward Naz Hillmon! Naz discusses how she had to evolve her game as she transitioned from a collegiate star at Michigan to pro athlete,  how she gained the confidence to start shooting threes, and what Atlanta needs to do to bring home the championship this year.And in Sue’s View, Sue gives a shout out to some record-breaking feats, from A’ja Wilson hitting 6,000 career points to Angel Reese’s double-double streak, and has some takeaways from the Lynx’s impressive win over the Wings.Bird’s Eye View is produced in partnership with VOX MEDIA and TOGETHXR. Follow Sue on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sbird10/  Follow Sue on X: https://x.com/s10bird  Follow Bird’s Eye View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdseyeviewpod/ Follow Bird’s Eye View on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@birdseyeviewpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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