A square meal for your ears! This zesty, 15-minute weekly update on food stories and commentary is modeled after the Southern meat-and-three-sides concept: a deep dive and three shorts. Keep up with the latest food trends, the political economy and societal impact of food, health news, and more. Discover your next favorite food podcast via our rotating contributors, and join us as we explore what the fork is going on in the world right now.
Meat and Three is the voice of Heritage Radio Network, a Brooklyn-based nonprofit food media mecca with over 35 weekly food shows and a mission to make the world more equitable, sustainable, and delicious. Meat and Three is hosted by HRN Executive Director Caity Moseman Wadler and Communications Director Kat Johnson.
New Show Spotlight: Pizza Quest
This week we're featuring an episode of HRN's newest series: Pizza Quest. Before the episode, Kat Johnson speaks with Jeff Michael and Peter Reinhart about the formation of Pizza Quest, the stories they are trying to tell, and how this particular project was born out of quarantine last year.
Pizza Quest is certainly about pizza, but it’s so much more! It’s an engaging celebration of artisanship in all its shapes and forms. In this episode, Peter interviews Chris Bianco. Chris is rightfully acclaimed as the poster boy of the artisan pizza movement. Not only is he an important and unfiltered thought leader in the realm of sustainability and right action, but his pizzas represent the benchmark to which all others aspire. Today we take a deep dive into the mind and heart of Chris Bianco of Pizzeria and Pane Bianco.
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Bug Out: Cicada Chaos and Radioactive Honey
We might think of insects as pests, annoying little creatures that enter our homes uninvited, that buzz incessantly and bite us without cause. But insects make the world go round. They can be found in nearly every environment, and it’s estimated that over 90% of the animal life forms on Earth are insects. The balance of the natural world depends on them.
This week, we’re putting insects front and center. We unpack the mysterious patterns of cicadas in the US, investigate the presence of radioactive isotopes in bees, meet a self-professed edible insect ambassador, and do some insect cooking of our own.
Much Ado About Organics
It’s bought, it’s sold, it’s debated. But what is organic food? This week on Meat and Three, we travel into the world of organics. In the land we now refer to as the “United States,” indigenous communities have been growing their food “organically” for centuries. But “organic food” in the U.S. is now tied to a slew of technical regulations required for certification. The United States Department of Agriculture defines organic food as food produced without the use of antibiotics, pesticides, growth hormones, synthetic fertilizers, bioengineering, or ionizing radiation. This is why organic food can be more costly than food produced with polluting chemicals.
When the organic food movement went mainstream in the United States in the 1970s, it wasn’t just about compiling a list of regulations. Its roots dug deep into efforts to protect human health and the environment. Our stories this week explore the meaning of “organic.” We start off with an organic food 101. Then we report on how corporations in the United States have influenced the movement and we hear from the Gorzynski family about why they penned themselves as ornery instead of organic. In our final segment, we bring you a story on how the ties between white supremacy and organic food challenged a farmer’s market to its core.
The Flavor of Memory
In celebration of Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, we dedicate our episode to memory and how it has shaped AAPI food experiences. Many of us have probably eaten meals where long after the plate has been cleared, the taste still lingers in our mind. But we don’t just remember food — food can spark and capture memory as well. For those who have immigrated across countries, food can act as a vessel through which the flavors and stories of their past live on.
Today, our episode explores how the smell, taste, or story behind dishes can inspire art, preserve heritage and forge connections across cultures and continents. First, we visit a family in the Bay Area to learn about how food has evoked nostalgia for them after immigrating from China. Next, we hear from an educational organization based in O’ahu about their mission of promoting environmental preservation. We then head to the backstage of a one-woman play, where we talk to the playwright about her relationship to food as an Indian-American. Finally, we flip through the pages of diasporic Vietnamese cookbooks to discover the narratives embedded within.
Labor Organizing: The Fight for Better Conditions in Food
In honor of May Day (celebrated world-wide on May 1st), we bring you four stories about workers organizing and unionizing around the country. First, we’ll start in our own backyard: New York City. We dive into the world of food delivery workers and their efforts to legislate the delivery apps that push them around the City. Next, we’ll move upstate to and look at farm workers fighting for more overtime pay before turning to the Texas Service Industry Coalition. Finally, we’ll end this episode in San Francisco with Anchor Brewing. The brewery is over 100 years old and ratified its very first union contract in 2019.
Although not officially recognized in the United States, May Day has its origins in America. On May 4th, 1886, workers gathered in Chicago’s Haymarket square to rally for an eight-hour work day. But a bomb was thrown into the demonstration, and several were killed. May Day commemorates the tragedy of the Haymarket Affair. But really, it celebrates every fight for better working conditions.
Presenting The Shameless Chef
Get to know another Heritage Radio Network show that gives us a glimpse into the culinary culture of the 1970s. The Shameless Chef was developed for public radio in 1977 but many of these audio treasures have never been heard before. The show’s original host, Michael A. Davenport shares his fearless attitude towards food and encourages home cooks to have fun and take risks in the kitchen. The podcast takes us back in time but still has a lot to teach us today.
In Episode 2: How to Be Audacious, Michael shares his belief that there’s no excuse for being a ‘meat and potatoes man’ and suggests throwing out the rules to break up the monotony of your meals. He shares recipes for ‘wing dings’ and black olive soup and suggests adding an orange peel to your coffee. Ultimately, Michael subscribed to this sentiment, “don’t react to your prejudices, react to your palette.”
Best show out there!
This podcast is stellar! Covers so much ground in a short amount of time. The topics are timely, honest, and super easy to digest. I love that episodes are interesting for a wide age group and hosts and guests dont shy away from confronting big issues.
I walk away every week with a solid understanding of four new things :)
Thank you meat and three for the best food podcast out there!!
Such an important show!
This is a great show for foodies and news junkies alike! It's such a fun exploration of the intersection of food and current events, with so much to learn with every episode.
Always current and always providing a unique perspective, Meat and Three is especially important now as access to food and the various food related industries are in flux, it's a great way to learn how to support these communities.
An Indispensable Show About Food and So Much More
Meat + Three embodies what makes indpendent media like HRN so essential—a mix of serious learning with unexpected and fun stories. Food serves as the throughline from piece to piece, but a given episode might dip into policy, science, culture, and personal journeys, to name a few of the flavors the show captures. Each story is a surprise, and each week a well-balanced meal. If you listen to one show to learn more about the ways food impacts our lives, make it this one.