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Discover the best bits of the best books read by people you admire. Michael Bungay Stanier hosts the podcast where brilliant people read the best two pages of a favourite book. Listen as authors, leaders, activists, academics, celebrities, and entrepreneurs dig in with MBS to explore the insights and ideas within. Whether it’s books that inspire leadership, change, self-development and growth, power, strategy, ambition, productivity, or creativity and innovation - this is hand-curated wisdom from people who know. These are the books that change minds, shape lives, and inspire great work and worthy goals.

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Discover the best bits of the best books read by people you admire. Michael Bungay Stanier hosts the podcast where brilliant people read the best two pages of a favourite book. Listen as authors, leaders, activists, academics, celebrities, and entrepreneurs dig in with MBS to explore the insights and ideas within. Whether it’s books that inspire leadership, change, self-development and growth, power, strategy, ambition, productivity, or creativity and innovation - this is hand-curated wisdom from people who know. These are the books that change minds, shape lives, and inspire great work and worthy goals.

    How to be an Artist: Chadney Everett [reads] ‘The Dehumanization of Art’

    How to be an Artist: Chadney Everett [reads] ‘The Dehumanization of Art’

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    Actor Viggo Mortenson once said: ‘To be an artist, you don't have to compose music, or paint, or be in the movies, or write books. It's just a way of living. It has to do with paying attention, remembering, filtering what you see and answering back, participating in life.’ If you tried on the identity of an artist, how does it fit? Trying it myself, I’m struck by the idea that being an artist is participating in life. So, if you were an artist, how are you participating in life? What does that tell you about the art you’re creating, and who, more than anyone, do you make that art for? 

    Chadney Everett is a lifelong artist and explorer of the human experience. His work has been featured in galleries, theater, television, and even in film. Chadney’s drive to create art is rooted in connection, which has led him to his current role as the Senior Creative Director at Meow Wolf. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/   

    Chadney reads two pages from ‘The Dehumanization of Art’ by José Ortega y Gasset. [reading begins at 17:35]  

    Hear us discuss: 
    “Thinking about the audience as you make it is not going to create the best art.” [7:05] | How the hostile majority responds to unpopular art: “The function of art is to form a connection between the artist and the viewer.” [20:50] | What is immersive art? [26:43] | Navigating the resistance to art: “Art is metaphorical.” [31:27]

    • 41 min
    Not Wasting Time: Andri Snær Magnason, author of ‘On Time and Water’, [reads] ‘Einstein's Dreams’

    Not Wasting Time: Andri Snær Magnason, author of ‘On Time and Water’, [reads] ‘Einstein's Dreams’

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    My first job out of university was with a company that specialized in innovation. It was there that I really began to understand how creativity flourishes when there are restraints. We were once hired by Kellogg’s to help do something new for Corn Flakes, but weren’t allowed to change the product, packaging, or marketing. I remember realizing that I needed to figure out the rules in order to decide which ones needed to be broken. 

    Whatever your situation, there’s liberation in understanding what rules need to be followed, and which ones can be played with. I’m wondering, how might you more joyfully break a few rules? Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  

    Andri Snær Magnason is one of Iceland’s best-selling and most prolific authors, with experience writing across almost every genre, including film.

    Andri reads two pages from ‘Einstein’s Dreams’ by Alan Lightman. [reading begins at 16:05]  

    Hear us discuss: 
    “As an artist, you always have to push your limits and try to reach out of your comfort zone.” [5:00] | The beauty of simplicity: “One of your roles is to not waste your reader’s time.”  [18:42] | A vision for the future. [25:12] | “The way we perceive time, both lived and unlived, can go from feeling like an eternity, to feeling like a flash.” [30:40]

    • 34 min
    The Ethical Revolution: Robert Chesnut, author of ‘Intentional Integrity,’ [reads] ‘Intentional Integrity’

    The Ethical Revolution: Robert Chesnut, author of ‘Intentional Integrity,’ [reads] ‘Intentional Integrity’

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    I’ve done my fair share of work in organizational development, some of which involved helping big companies set up visions, missions, and values. Most of the time that work honestly drove me nuts. The phrase ‘death by lamination’ sums up the majority of corporate values. They come up with a bland list, stick it on the wall, and hope that it will shift the company’s culture. One of the greatest farces in the world of value statements, though, is including integrity in that list. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

    Robert Chesnut is the former Chief Ethics Officer at Airbnb, and author of Intentional Integrity: How Smart Companies Can Lead an Ethical Revolution.  

    Robert reads two pages from his book, ‘Intentional Integrity.’ [reading begins at 6:05]  

    Hear us discuss: 
    What prevents companies from being ethical?: “Integrity is contagious.” [1:46] | Having the courage to not be silent: “As a leader, being willing to encourage and reward people for speaking up can change the entire culture.” [3:18] | The evolution of ethics throughout the years. [11:33]

    • 14 min
    Where Empathy & Activism Meet: Loretta Ross, co-author of Reproductive Justice, [reads] ‘The War for Kindness’

    Where Empathy & Activism Meet: Loretta Ross, co-author of Reproductive Justice, [reads] ‘The War for Kindness’

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    Despite its good intentions, activism can be exhausting. Finding motivation to keep the fight going can be a struggle, but connecting with others is key. A small circle of compassion goes a long way.

    I am delighted to speak with Loretta Ross, an activism pioneer in the human rights and reproductive justice movements, professor, public intellectual, nationally recognized speaker, and co-author of best-selling books on reproductive justice. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

    Loretta reads two pages from Jamil Zaki’s inspiring book, ‘The War for Kindness.’ [reading begins at 11:36]

    Hear us discuss:
    “At the heart of all activism is hope; the belief that things can change, and that you can make a difference in bringing about that change.” [7:02] | “The people who are opposed to human rights think they're fighting us, the human rights movement, but they couldn't be more wrong. They're fighting forces way bigger than us because they're fighting truth. They're fighting evidence and history, and most of all, they're fighting time.” [8:40] | Making mistakes and being afraid to mess up: “I've learned over time to not do things that I can't look in the eye the next day.” [18:51]

    • 33 min
    Whose Heart Did You Break?: Simon Alexander Ong, author of ‘Energize’ [reads] ‘The Mountain is You’

    Whose Heart Did You Break?: Simon Alexander Ong, author of ‘Energize’ [reads] ‘The Mountain is You’

    Simon Alexander One reading from Brianna Wiest’s book The Mountain is You, and discussing resilience, self-mastery, and expanding your comfort zone.

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    When we think of energy, we tend to limit it to the physical. This week’s guest rejects that narrow view, sharing that energy exists in four dimensions: the physical, the mental, the emotional, and the spiritual. When all four work in harmony, we can unearth hidden fuel to power our potential.

    I am delighted to speak to Simon Alexander Ong, award-winning life and executive coach, business strategist, keynote speaker, and author of Energize: Make the Most of Every Moment.  Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

    Simon reads two pages from Brianna Wiest’s insightful book, ‘The Mountain is You.’ [reading begins at 11:59]

    Hear us discuss:
    “One of the things I had to unlearn as an entrepreneur was an attachment to outcome.” [7:38] | Change happens when the pain is too much: “Most people… do not embrace the difficulty of altering their habits until they simply do not have another choice.” [12:10] | “We can't finish a jigsaw puzzle without [first] starting the puzzle, and only when we start putting the pieces together do we begin to have clarity on what that [picture] is.” [23:00]

    • 36 min
    A Woman’s Guide to Surviving Entrepreneurship: Nathalie Molina Niño, author of ‘Leapfrog’ [reads] ‘Leapfrog’

    A Woman’s Guide to Surviving Entrepreneurship: Nathalie Molina Niño, author of ‘Leapfrog’ [reads] ‘Leapfrog’

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    I am an accidental entrepreneur, and as exhilarating as it’s been, it’s also been really difficult at times. Now, entrepreneurship has been hard for me as a white man and also for one of our previous guests, Bobby Herrera, as a Latino man. However, the statistics are endless when it comes to the struggles of being a woman entrepreneur. 

    I am delighted to speak to Nathalie Molina Niño, a woman with many titles, some of which include CEO of O³, an investor, an entrepreneur, and the author of Leapfrog: The New Revolution for Women Entrepreneurs. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

    Nathalie reads two pages from her brilliant book, ‘Leapfrog.’ [reading begins at 7:39]  

    Hear us discuss: 
    “If you’re exceptional at anything, you’re probably going to have to become an entrepreneur at it.” [4:28] | “Being an entrepreneur is more of a life skill than a career path … I never saw it as optional.” [4:40] | How to find courage: “Ambition doesn’t have to be ego-centric.” [13:15]

    • 19 min

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