2 Trick Pony

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2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.

Episodes

  1. JAN 30

    Ep11: How Weightlifting Builds Courage with Dr. Kristin Harlow

    In this conversation, we speak with Dr. Kristin Harlow, a former academic and policy evaluator-turned-weightlifting trainer. We learn from Kristin about her lifelong love for athletics and how she’s building a community for women in strength-training, as well as how she mustered up the courage to leap out of academic research and start her own garage gym. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: Misfit Strength (Columbus, OH) Haven Collective (Columbus, OH) "The Untold Story of Mattie Rogers" (documentary) You can learn more about our guest at: @harlowgarage

    34 min

  2. JAN 16

    Ep10: How Letting Go Leads to Authenticity with April Lee

    In this episode, we have a wide-ranging conversation about a personal search for meaning. A former government employee, April Lee speaks with us about how she left her job to explore creative crafts, reconnect with herself, and gain the confidence to build her own data visualization consultancy. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: Everything is Figureoutable, Marie Forleo Self-Compassion, Kristin Neff The Gifts of Imperfection, Brené Brown Setting Boundaries Will Set You Free, Nancy Agmon-Levin Awakening Intuition, Mona Lisa Schultz You are a Bad-Ass, Jennifer Sincero You are a Bad-Ass at Making Money, Jennifer Sincero Living in the Light, Shakti Gawain You can learn more about our guest at: leeaprstudios.com

    33 min

  3. JAN 2

    Ep9: How Building Instruments Pushes Boundaries with John C.L. Jansen

    New Year’s is a great time to consider a new hobby! We start the year off with professional musician, composer, and instrument maker John C.L. Jansen. We hear about the craft of building unusual instruments like daxophones and custom guitars, and how Jansen incorporates his built instruments into his music compositions. Jansen is also a classical guitarist and university music educator based in Washington, D.C.  ----more---- Resources in the episode: “Journey through the Dark Forest” by John C.L. Jansen “Fields of Jade” by John C.L. Jansen “A Very Brief Fable” by John C.L. Jansen Musical Instrument Design by Bart Hopkin You can learn more about our guest at: http://jljinstruments.com/ IG: @jcljansen

    34 min

  4. 12/12/2025

    Ep8: How the Culinary Arts Build Resilience with Masid Cader

    This week’s interview is for those who prefer to go big or go home. We talk with hobbyist chef Masid Cader about his experience fast-tracking his interest in gourmet cooking, including training with a Michelin-starred restaurant during the weekends, all while working full-time in investment banking. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: International Culinary Institute, New York City “Thomas Keller Teaches Cooking Techniques” on Masterclass Daniel Humm, owner and chef of 21 Madison Park The Food Lab, by J. Kenji López-Alt L’Artusi restaurant, NYC You can learn more about our guest at: IG @masidcader

    29 min

  5. 11/28/2025

    Ep7: How Food Writing Builds Belonging with PAKISTAN author Maryam Jillani

    Just in time for Thanksgiving, we interview Maryam Jillani about her journey as a food journalist and her experience writing the groundbreaking cookbook PAKISTAN. In our conversation, we learn about how Maryam’s background in public policy, education, and international development gave her a unique perspective on food writing while bringing her cookbook project to life. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: PAKISTAN by Maryam Jillani, published by Hardie Grant  Pakistan Eats food blog (www.pakistaneats.com/) You can learn more about our guest at: https://www.maryamjillani.com/ IG: @maryamxjillani

    39 min

  6. 11/14/2025

    Ep6: How Birding Brings Perspective with Nova Hanson

    This week, we talk with marine biologist and medical technician Nova Hanson about her love for birding and photography, and how she keeps her hobby fun and meaningful.  ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: The National Audubon Society “American Robin” (National Park Service) eBird, Merlin, and Avibase Black Birders Week American Birding Association Birds Canada You can learn more about our guest at: IG @novarrh

    35 min

  7. 10/31/2025

    Ep5: How Drag Builds Joy with Tammy Kay Queen

    In this week’s episode, we get a look behind the showroom curtain in our interview with Tommy Zoppa, better known as the drag queen Tammy Kay Queen. In our interview, we hear about how Tommy took a break from working in international aid and tech to create the popular and hilarious "Monologues" drag show at the Trade Bar in DC. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: Trade DC (1410 14th St NW, Washington, DC 20005) RuPaul’s Drag Race “The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia” monologue from Designing Women (1986) “The Defense is Wrong” monologue from My Cousin Vinny (1992) “Cerulean Top” monologue from The Devil Wears Prada (2006) Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022) Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1996) Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994) The Birdcage (1996) Let the Record Show by Sara Schulman You can learn more about our guest at: IG @TammyKayQueen

    41 min

  8. 10/17/2025

    Ep4: How Pottery Builds Creativity with Jenny Nam

    This week, we interview Jenny Nam, a data analyst and hobbyist potter in Philadelphia, about her basement home studio and her mother’s 10-year rule when trying out new things. Resources mentioned in the episode: The Clay Studio, Philadelphia, PA  Small Favors show at the Clay Studio, Philadelphia The Ceramic Shop, Norristown, Philadelphia Bird Seed Florals, Philadelphia  You can learn more about our guest at: https://www.sjnampottery.com @sjnampottery (Instagram)

    31 min

  9. 10/03/2025

    Ep3: How Gardening Can Heal with Sharad Wertheimer

    This week, we continue learning about gardens and major career pivots with Sharad Wertheimer, a former labor organizer and current medical student in Washington, D.C. In our conversation, Sharad talks about discovering his passion for urban agriculture…and how 10,000 worms helped him find his purpose. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: Braiding Sweetgrass, Robin Wall Kimmerer Farmacology, Daphne Miller Sharad’s syllabus on Intro to Vermiculture You can learn more about our guest at:  GroW for Health at George Washington School of Medicine

    43 min

  10. 09/19/2025

    Ep2: How Horticulture Built Confidence with Honor Hawkins

    In this episode, we talk with Honor Hawkins, a landscape designer and horticulturalist in New York City, about her serendipitous career pivot from media and technical writing to professionally designing urban gardens. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: Gardener’s World (BBC) (https://www.gardenersworld.com/) Dan Pearson’s online magazine, Dig Delve (digdelve.com) Stonecrop Garden’s Seminum/Rarium (https://www.stonecrop.org/seminum-rarium/) Gardens Illustrated (https://www.gardensillustrated.com/) One Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka You can learn more about our guest at: https://www.honorhawkins.net/

    36 min

  11. 09/05/2025

    Ep1: How Baking Builds Community with Dr. Claudia Ma

    In our first conversation, we interview family physician Dr. Claudia Ma about Claudia’s Confections, her new licensed home baking venture in Boston, MA, and how she cares for others through medicine and baking. ----more---- Resources mentioned in the episode: Cambridge Culinary Institute You can learn more about our guest at: @drclaudias_confections

    35 min

  12. 09/04/2025

    Trailer: Welcome to 2 Trick Pony

    Welcome to 2 Trick Pony! In this premiere episode, co-hosts Claire Ma and Melissa Betters introduce the 2 Trick Pony podcast and explain the motivations behind the show.

    3 min

Trailer

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About

2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.

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  • Creator
    2 Trick Pony
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    12
  • Rating
    Clean
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