The Digital PR Podcast

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The Digital PR Podcast is your essential podcast for all things digital PR. Join Propellernet’s very own Louise Parker and Steve Baker as your hosts who will be chatting with a variety of guest speakers and top industry experts. Make sure to tune in every month for the latest trends, expert insights, and actionable tips for all things PR. We can’t wait for you to join the conversation.

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#37 Why AI Is Failing the Creative Industry with Joe Goulcher

AI is reshaping the creative industry – but is it helping or harming the work? In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker speak to Creative Director Joe Goulcher, known for his outspoken takes on AI, ethics and originality. Joe shares why he refuses to use generative AI in his work, how leading brands are pushing back against the hype, and why consent, craft and credibility still matter. Together, they explore the ethical grey areas of AI-generated content, the environmental cost of machine-made creativity, and how Joe is building an honest, human voice in an industry obsessed with speed and scale. 00:07:50 – What AI Really Is (and Isn’t): Joe explains the difference between true artificial intelligence and the large language models often mislabelled as AI. 00:10:45 – The Trouble with Generative Tools: From copyright theft to misinformation, Joe lays out the ethical and practical risks of using generative AI in creative work. 00:14:30 – Why Big Brands Are Saying No: Joe reveals how companies are actively banning AI in their pitch and production processes. 00:29:15 – Craft Still Matters: Joe argues that speed and scale are being prioritised over quality, and why the work often suffers as a result. 00:31:20 – Building a Voice on LinkedIn: How Joe built an engaged audience, and why writing like you speak is the secret. 00:34:40 – Toxic Hustle Culture Isn’t a Badge of Honour: Joe pushes back on the glorification of burnout and late nights in agency life, and what we should be praising instead. 00:40:00 – Advice for the Next Generation: Joe shares advice to creatives starting out today. Check out the full transcript here. – About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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٢٨ أغسطس

#36 How AI is Changing Journalism: PR, Ethics & Fake Experts with Rob Waugh

AI is being used to create fake experts and manipulate media – and it’s changing journalism forever. In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Steve Baker speak to journalist Rob Waugh, whose investigations have exposed how AI tools are being used to create fake personas, fake commentary and fake credibility. Rob reveals how he uncovered these stories, what’s driving the rise in AI fakery and why it’s a growing threat to trust in media. Together, they explore the line between smart SEO and unethical manipulation, the role of PR in keeping journalism honest and what the future holds for expert commentary. 00:04:52 – The SEO Incentive Behind AI Fakery We dive into how (and why) some brands and agencies are creating fake personas to gain backlinks, mentions and E-E-A-T signals. 00:10:25 – Where the Ethical Line Gets Crossed Rob discusses the real-world consequences of AI-generated quotes and why trust matters. 00:13:33 – How Newsrooms Are Responding With limited resources and mounting pressure, journalists are under strain. Rob reveals how publishers are introducing verification systems to tackle the problem. 00:29:48 – How to Rebuild Trust Between PRs and Journalists From being honest about sign-off processes to meeting in person, Rob outlines what helps a PR become a trusted source and what kills that trust instantly. 00:42:12 – Google AI Mode & the Publishing Apocalypse We discuss how Google's shift to AI answers is already slashing publisher traffic and why media businesses are bracing for impact. 00:56:00 – Final Thoughts & What’s Next Rob hints at upcoming stories, reflects on the erosion of newsroom resources, and shares where to follow his work (and send anonymous tips). Check out the full transcript here. – About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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٣١ يوليو

#35 Using HARO To Navigate The Expert Economy with Brett Farmiloe

In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Stephen Baker sit down with Brett Farmiloe, Founder of Featured and current leader of HARO (Help a Reporter Out). Together, they unpack the evolving landscape of expert commentary and media outreach, exploring how to stand out in a world increasingly cluttered by AI-generated spam. Brett shares practical insights into what makes a pitch truly land: being helpful, authentic, relevant, and timely. He also calls out the pitfalls of the scattergun PR approach, where mass pitching often comes at the cost of relevance and credibility. If you're looking to elevate your expert outreach and stay ahead of the curve in the AI era, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. 00:01:15 - What Makes a Great Pitch? Brett outlines the key elements of an effective pitch, emphasising the importance of quality over quantity. 00:06:43 - Navigating AI in Journalism The discussion on the impact of AI on journalism and the challenges it presents, including the need for transparency and verification of sources in the age of AI-generated content. 00:08:24 - How to Use HARO Effectively Brett explains how HARO operates, detailing the process for journalists and experts to connect through the platform, and the importance of timely responses. 00:12:06 - Future of the Expert Economy Brett expresses optimism about the expert economy's growth, highlighting the increasing demand for genuine human insights in a landscape dominated by AI. 00:24:01 - The Role of PR and SEO in Expert Commentary The conversation explores the differences between PR and SEO approaches to expert commentary, discussing the importance of authenticity and the potential for abuse in both fields. 00:35:36 - Final Thoughts and Advice for PR Professionals Brett offers practical advice for PR professionals on how to elicit engaging commentary from clients, emphasising the value of collaboration and creativity in the process. Check out the full transcript here. - About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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٢٦ يونيو

#34 Is Digital PR The Future Of Marketing? with Rand Fishkin

In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker and Stephen Baker are joined by Rand Fishkin, co-founder of SparkToro and long-time trailblazer in digital marketing, for a conversation about what’s next for PR in an AI-forward industry. They explore why a fixation on backlinks is no longer fit for purpose, and how a smarter, audience-first approach is key to long-term success. Rand unpacks the growing importance of brand context, trusted sources of influence and real visibility. From TikTok to Reddit, search engines to social feeds, it’s clear that the future of PR lies in where people actually spend their attention. And while AI brings its fair share of uncertainty, Rand leaves us with a sense of optimism and a roadmap for adapting with purpose. 00:05:30 - The Importance of Digital PR: Rand distinguishes between traditional PR and digital PR, highlighting the need to connect with audiences through genuine sources of influence rather than low-quality link building. 00:10:00 - User Behaviour and AI: Discussion on how AI models rely on user behaviour and mentions, and the importance of brand visibility in influential spaces. 00:15:00 - The Evolution of Measurement in PR: Rand advocates for a shift away from strict attribution models towards understanding overall brand presence and impact. 00:20:00 - Future-Proofing PR Strategies: Exploration of strategies for PR professionals to adapt, like focusing on identifying niche sources of influence and leveraging various platforms for brand visibility. 00:25:00 - The Role of AI in Marketing: Rand shares implications of AI in marketing, addressing the anxiety surrounding job displacement and the potential for AI to enhance productivity rather than replace human roles. 00:35:00 - The Future of Content Creation: Rand advocates for a balanced approach that combines AI assistance with human creativity to maintain authenticity in messaging. Check out the full transcript here. - About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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٢٩ مايو

#33 Rethinking Link Building in Digital PR with Stephanie Finch

In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Louise Parker is joined by Stephanie Finch to explore the evolving landscape of digital PR – with a particular focus on the growing challenges of link building. As media policies shift and AI transforms how we search, they discuss why it’s time to rethink traditional success metrics. From declining link-to-coverage ratios to the rising importance of brand visibility, this conversation unpacks how digital PR teams can realign client expectations and stay ahead in a changing search landscape. 00:00:00 – The Changing Landscape of Digital PR: Lou and Steph reflect on the broader shifts affecting digital PR today – from industry saturation to increasing competition and declining originality. 00:01:21 – Link Targets: A Historical Perspective: Steph shares how link expectations have evolved over the past decade, why link building has always been hard, and why the challenge now feels different. 00:03:44 – The Impact of Media Changes on Link Building: From newsroom redundancies and paywalls to affiliate models and no-link policies, Steph explore how structural media changes are reducing link opportunities across the board. 00:08:34 – Educating Clients on Link Expectations: Steph explains how she uses data and competitor insights to reset client expectations – and why it's essential to reframe conversations around coverage, not just links. 00:11:09 – The Role of AI in Digital PR: With Google's AI Overview already live in the US, Lou and Steph discuss how AI is transforming search – and what that means for visibility, PR strategy, and measurement. 00:16:40 – Future Metrics in Digital PR: As links become less central, what comes next? They explore future-facing metrics – from brand mentions and message alignment to platform reach and social sentiment. Check out the full transcript here. - About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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١٥ مايو

#32 AI-Powered Digital PR with Raquel Pinto

In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, Steve Baker is joined by Raquel Pinto, a digital PR expert at Propellernet, to explore how AI is transforming media outreach. Rather than just a content tool, Raquel sees AI as a strategic thinking partner – helping PR professionals work faster, think sharper, and pitch more effectively. From treating AI like an intern to stress-testing hooks and unearthing niche audience insights, she shares how tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity are helping her deliver more focused, personalised outreach. Join us for a conversation that challenges traditional PR practices as we know them! 00:02:47 – Embracing AI for Efficiency: Raquel reflects on realising how much time she was spending on manual tasks – and how treating AI like an intern transformed her workflow. 00:08:46 – Optimising Media Outreach with AI: From testing campaign angles to understanding journalist preferences, Raquel explains how AI sharpens and speeds up outreach strategy. 00:15:51 – Limitations of AI in Creative Thinking: AI can accelerate admin but it can’t make the creative leaps. Raquel discusses where human intuition still reigns in digital PR. 00:20:46 – Building Relationships in a Digital Age: As AI-driven pitches increase, trust and personalisation matter more than ever. Raquel shares how she builds meaningful journalist connections. 00:25:47 – Practical Tips for AI Integration in PR: Learn Raquel’s go-to prompts, tool tips, and how starting a simple prompt bank can supercharge your day-to-day PR work. Check out the full transcript here. - About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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١ مايو

#31 How To Future-Proof Your PR Reporting with Stella Bayles

In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, we’re joined by Stella Bayles, Co-Founder and Director of PR Tool CoverageBook and author of ‘PR's Digital Resolution’, to talk about how PR measurement is evolving – and where it still needs to catch up. Stella shares her perspective on how automation, AI, and SEO techniques have transformed PR reporting, from saving time to proving true business impact. Join us for a conversation that challenges traditional PR practices as we know them! Try the CoverageBook calculator here. 00:05:30 - CoverageBook: Stella explains the creation of CoverageBook, highlighting its aim to save PR professionals time by automating the manual process of collating coverage and metrics for reporting. 00:10:00 - Evolution of PR Measurement: Discover the significant changes in PR measurement over the past decade, including the shift towards automation and the challenges posed by an overwhelming amount of data. 00:15:30 - Common Measurement Mistakes: Stella discusses the pitfalls PR professionals in measuring their results, emphasising the importance of focusing on meaningful engagement. 00:20:00 - The Role of AI in PR: Exploring how AI is influencing PR measurement and the importance of human insight in the process. 00:25:00 - CoverageBook Case Study: Stella shares how Diageo effectively utilised CoverageBook to measure impressions and secure additional budget for their PR activities. 00:30:00 - Future of PR Measurement: Stella offers her insights on the future of PR measurement, discussing the need for integration with marketing and the growing importance of reputation management in the industry. 00:35:00 - Future Gazing: Stella reflects on the evolving landscape of PR and invites listeners to connect with her on LinkedIn for further discussions. Check out the full transcript here. - About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by CoverageBook. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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١٧ أبريل

#30 Harnessing AI in Digital PR with Alex Cassidy

In this episode of the Digital PR Podcast, we’re joined by Alex Cassidy, Head of Digital PR at Distinctly, to talk about all things AI and how it’s reshaping our industry. From setting up an internal AI task force to exploring the limits (and risks) of generative tools, Alex shares his view on what’s working, what isn’t, and why human insight still matters. We dig into how AI can be used to sharpen headlines, streamline processes, and even build out creative tools – while also questioning where it might be harming originality or undermining trust. Join us for a conversation that challenges traditional PR practices as we know them! 00:01:03 - Alex Cassidy: Alex shares his career journey from sports journalism, to digital PR, to his current role at Distinctly. 00:02:43 - Implementing AI in the Team: Discussion on approach to using AI tools, addressing initial fears and the formation of a task force to explore AI's potential. 00:05:50 - Early Adopters vs. Skeptics: Reflection on levels of comfort with AI, highlighting the differences between early adopters and those hesitant to embrace new technology. 00:10:01 - Practical Applications of AI: Exploration of specific AI tools and their applications in digital PR, including the creation of a tool for generating subject lines and headlines. 00:14:51 - Limitations of AI in Idea Generation: Alex discusses the challenges of using AI for original idea generation, emphasising the importance of human creativity and understanding in the PR process. 00:22:50 - Future of AI in Digital PR: A look ahead at the potential evolution of AI in the industry, considering the balance between automation and the essential human element in PR work. 00:27:08 - Concerns About AI's Impact on the Industry: Discussion on the risks AI poses to the digital PR ecosystem, including the potential for content quality decline and the importance of maintaining robust relationships with journalists. Check out the full transcript here. - About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences. To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review. The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on YouTube as a video podcast. To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

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The Digital PR Podcast is your essential podcast for all things digital PR. Join Propellernet’s very own Louise Parker and Steve Baker as your hosts who will be chatting with a variety of guest speakers and top industry experts. Make sure to tune in every month for the latest trends, expert insights, and actionable tips for all things PR. We can’t wait for you to join the conversation.

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