4t Below Zero: Multiple Sclerosis Podcast

Nick and Terry

An international podcast about living with Multiple Sclerosis. 2 Guys with MS not MS'ing around. Hosted by Nick and Terry, discussing and attempting to normalize the conversation around life with a chronic and invisible illness.

  1. 2D AGO

    From Silence to Sound: How a Podcast Made an MS Warrior’s Voice Louder

    Hold onto your coffee mugs, folks! Today’s episode is a rollercoaster of laughs, tears, and serious insight into life with MS—plus tips for advocacy, mental health, and surviving the medical maze—all served with a side of humor. If you're even a tad curious about MS, podcasting, or just how to turn your own health journey into a voice that matters, you're in the right place. In this episode: Selena’s journey from diagnosis in 2020 to becoming a podcast pioneer in MS awareness The power of sharing stories to fight stigma and invisible illness misconceptions Tips for advocating for yourself in the healthcare system The mental health toll: anxiety, overthinking, and staying sane while navigating MS How small acts of self-care, like a Starbucks run or meditation, keep hope alive The role of research and clinical trials as a lifeline for those with no access to treatment Practical advice for managing MRI fears, tattoos, and labelling in the medical world The importance of a good support system—family, friends, and even AI Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Selena and her MS story 00:20 - Why she started her MS-focused podcast 02:10 - Symptoms she experienced, early warning signs 04:00 - The shock of diagnosis during a global pandemic 06:00 - The invisible illness stigma—how perceptions affect MS warriors 09:00 - Advocacy tips: how to prepare for doctor visits 11:45 - The MS community and advocacy work with Society 13:00 - Moving from diagnosis to activism in just a few years 15:00 - The fear and excitement of sharing your MS journey publicly 17:00 - Mental health struggles—anxiety, overthinking, and mindfulness 20:00 - The battle with healthcare system hurdles and insurance issues 22:00 - Research as a treatment option—trials and trials 26:00 - Managing MRI fears and the metal in your life 29:00 - Self-care tips on bad MS days: walks, coffee, meditation 32:00 - The power of community, family, and support networks 36:00 - The importance of asking for help and setting boundaries 39:00 - Medications, side effects, and the joy of discovery like LDN 44:00 - The role of research, clinical trials, and hope for the future 50:00 - Everyday life hacks: managing pain, fatigue, and mental overload 54:00 - How podcasting becomes a tool for advocacy and connection Resources & Links: MSWired Podcast – Tune in for more stories and tips National MS Society – For advocacy, funding, and support Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) – Discover the potential Research Trial Opportunities – Your portal to hopeful treatments Robin Nunley - MS Society South Florida – Advocate for change Connect with Selena: Instagram Facebook Spotify Keep the conversation flowing and lift each other up—because every voice counts! Want to see more brave stories, or get tips on dealing with MS? Subscribe, share, and keep spreading the word. Until next time, stay strong, stay witty, and keep that coffee cup full! ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero 👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊 Copyright Disclaimer 👇 Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    50 min

  2. APR 1

    No Joke: MS Truths

    Most of us think we only face health crises or career crises—but what about the terrifying, confusing world of MS, disability benefits, and managing a chaotic, crumbling infrastructure? Welcome to an episode that’s part therapy session, part survival guide, with an unexpected twist: how to navigate the wild, often ridiculous maze of disabilities, mental health, and the universe’s weirdest meteor showers. Join our fearless hosts as they unravel the comedy and tragedy behind sudden migraines, emergency room adventures, and the struggle to get the proper mobility aids without fearing you’re stuck with a used, stinky wheelchair. You’ll discover the mental tricks—like laughing through the chaos and journaling your way out of a rut—that help keep your head above the floodwaters of MS diagnosis and daily frustrations. We break down how societal expectations—treating MS like some European affliction—impact your mental health more than the disease itself. Plus, Minnie, a powerhouse in the MS and disability space, shares her journey battling relapse remitting MS, navigating complex healthcare systems in Toronto, and fighting for benefits that often feel like set-ups for failure. She’s disrupting the stigma, revealing insider tricks to accessing hidden programs, and advocating for long-term financial freedom, because disability doesn’t mean you have to be poor. You’ll learn about the importance of keeping detailed records, the reality of battling city infrastructure, and why laughter—yes, even at sappy commercials—is your secret weapon. If you’re living with MS, overwhelmed by the system, or just want the real scoop from someone who’s been there, this episode is your must-listen cheat sheet. It’s raw, funny, and packed with actionable advice that might just make your next rough patch a little easier to endure. Remember—your health, your money, and your happiness all deserve some fierce advocacy. Perfect for anyone feeling the weight of invisible disabilities or those who just need a little comic relief in the chaos. Hit play, laugh a little, learn a lot—and remind yourself: you’re not alone in this mess. https://www.youtube.com/@4tBelowZero?sub_confirmation=1 Connect with Minnie: YouTube: MinnieonCam TikTok: MinnieonCam Instagram: camMinnie And remember: sometimes life's chaos just needs a good laugh—preferably in the shower, lying on the floor, or during a midnight MRI. Thanks for hanging out with us—stay witty, stay resilient! ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero 👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊 Copyright Disclaimer 👇 Fair Use Disclaimer: This clip is included for [commentary/educational/transformative] purposes. No copyright infringement is intended. Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    42 min

  3. MAR 25

    Mental & Emotional Power in MS

    Most people think they understand what it’s like living with MS — but Jason R. Gray reveals the raw, unfiltered truth behind the diagnosis that no one talks about. From terrifying relapses to the relentless mental and physical battle, he’s here to shatter illusions and share the unvarnished reality of survival.This episode dives deep into the chaos of flare-ups, the heartbreak of losing independence, and the unstoppable drive to create despite the odds. Jason opens up about medication mistakes that nearly paralyzed him, the power of community, and how his creative work is his ultimate rebellion against the disease trying to define him.You'll discover: how MS manifests beyond the symptoms—barometric pressure, brain fog, and emotional rollercoasters—and why understanding these causes can be a game-changer. Jason shares poignant stories of the support that keeps him going, the absurdities of navigating life in a wheelchair, and his unwavering belief that love and purpose can transcend even the harshest diagnoses.If you or someone you love faces chronic illness, this episode is a beacon of authenticity, hope, and resilience. It’s not just about MS—it’s about fighting for your story, your identity, your life. Tune in and get inspired to push past the limits, rewrite the narrative, and reclaim your power.Because no matter how hard the battle, your story isn’t over yet. Join us to witness a journey of guts, grit, and unstoppable determination.Jason R. Gray is a filmmaker, MS warrior, and advocate who refuses to let the disease define him, instead using his experience to craft stories that inspire real change.This is essential listening for anyone living with MS, the loved ones who support them, or anyone ready to challenge their limitations and embrace the fight.Let this episode remind you: it’s not about how you fall, but how you rise. Hit play and be inspired.instagram: @jason.r.graywebsite: liminal-arts.comhttps://www.gofundme.com/f/interval-film?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnmfN7pPPZDJt2tHL63ueBqrBw3m9wbrmU0WVU8PTd3T_vOTaaDcPuKjyt6dQ_aem_9n5hA7tx2UDnDIEdhWm02Qhttps://youtu.be/YbecLrH6ZaAImagine This SceneA father pulls his eight-year-old daughter from the water. She is limp. He begs her to breathe. Time stops.Years later, broken, terrified of losing his own memories the way he watched dementia steal his mother, that same father makes an impossible choice.When he wakes at the edge of known space, alone, disoriented, surrounded by a planet that erases memory, he realizes the one thing he cannot afford to lose is the very thing the universe is trying to take from him: the face of the person he came all this way to save.That is INTERVAL.instagram: @jason.r.graywebsite: liminal-arts.comhttps://www.gofundme.com/f/interval-film?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnmfN7pPPZDJt2tHL63ueBqrBw3m9wbrmU0WVU8PTd3T_vOTaaDcPuKjyt6dQ_aem_9n5hA7tx2UDnDIEdhWm02Q ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊Copyright Disclaimer 👇========================Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    53 min

  4. MAR 18

    Ricky's MS Reality: Finding Humour in the Unexpected

    Most people with MS feel dismissed, unheard, and stuck in a system that often denies them the support they desperately need. Ricky Harvey’s raw, unfiltered story shatters that silence—revealing the truth behind the fight, the resilience, and the heartbreaking barriers that stand between us and proper care. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s really like to live with MS — not the textbook version, but the real, messy, emotional truth — this episode is your wake-up call.Ricky isn’t just another MS survivor — he’s a fierce advocate, a storyteller, and a man who refuses to let the system define him. From battling the rollercoaster of symptoms, frustration over inadequate healthcare, and the stigma around medication, to finding humor in life's darkest moments — his journey is a powerful reminder that your story matters. You’ll discover how the healthcare system fails too many, why MS support isn’t enough, and what it truly takes to keep fighting when the odds seem stacked against you.We break down the broken pathways many MS warriors face: the lack of consistent neurologist care, inaccessible therapies like electromagnetic pulse treatments, and the emotional toll of feeling unheard by a system that’s meant to serve us. Ricky shares his insights on the importance of community, the power of laughter, and how maintaining hope can be an act of rebellion. His honest reflections on medication, mental health, and the fight for support will inspire you to advocate harder for yourself and those you love.This episode is a call to action: don’t accept the status quo. If you or someone you love is living with MS, this conversation could be the spark that ignites change. It’s time we demand better, speak louder, and Own our stories. Because your life, your fight, your voice — they matter more than ever.Perfect for anyone living with MS, caregivers, advocates, or anyone tired of system failures and ready to stand up for real change. Hit play, and let Ricky’s truth inspire your fight.Surviving Life: A Memoir of Tears, Laughter, Love, Family Conflict, Illness, and HopeBy: Ricky Harveyhttps://a.co/d/07UFKRBS#MultipleSclerosis #MSAwareness #HealthcareAdvocacy #ChronicIllness #Inspiration #Advocacy #HealthcareReform #MSWarrior #PatientStories #CommunitySupport✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊Copyright Disclaimer 👇========================Video Clip Credit:Original content by moegfanLink to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujMGFidC83cFair Use Disclaimer: This clip is included for [commentary/educational/transformative] purposes. No copyright infringement is intended.Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    46 min

  5. MAR 11

    Revolutionizing Martial Arts in Wheelchairs

    Imagine a world where your daily grind feels less like a chore and more like an adventure. In this episode, we explore how to transform life's challenges into opportunities for growth and laughter. Join us as we chat with Chris Muotoh, a martial arts black belt who’s redefining what it means to live with MS, all from the seat of his wheelchair.Chris shares his journey from diagnosis to designing martial arts programs for wheelchair users, proving that passion and purpose can thrive despite physical limitations. We delve into the art of balancing routines with spontaneity, and how embracing the unexpected can lead to incredible breakthroughs.Whether you're managing a chronic condition or just seeking a fresh perspective on life's hurdles, this episode offers a blend of humor, inspiration, and practical advice. Discover how to turn your 'bad days' into stepping stones for success and why sometimes, ignorance truly is bliss.Tune in for a dose of motivation and a reminder that with the right mindset, anything is possible. Get ready to be inspired, laugh out loud, and maybe even rethink your own limits. Because if Chris can kick ass in a wheelchair, what's stopping you? ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero 👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊 Copyright Disclaimer 👇 ======================== Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    49 min

  6. MAR 4

    Amy's Evolution: From Challenges to Triumph

    Most people think health is just the absence of symptoms, but Amy Behimer flips the script—she's creating a new playbook for living well with MS and autoimmune chaos. Want to ditch the doom and start designing a life you're excited about? This episode is your secret weapon. Amy isn’t just a health coach; she’s a wellness wizard who’s navigated four autoimmune diagnoses—including MS—and turned her struggles into empowering strategies. Her story isn’t about managing symptoms; it’s about rewriting what health really means. She believes that health is something you create, a customizable blueprint you build with your mindset, habits, and purpose. The real reason why acceptance isn’t defeat—it's the ultimate key to thriving. How shifting your definition of health can put you back in the driver’s seat (spoiler: "no symptoms" is just the start). Simple, science-backed habits to rewire your brain for positivity and resilience. Amy’s powerful story of helping a client walk a mile in comfort—proof that even with MS, transformation is possible. The secret sauce for turning life's setbacks into comebacks, all while keeping your vibe high. Forget the “magic pill” mentality—this episode dives into how you can craft wellbeing from the inside out by embracing uncertainty, slow progress, and self-love. If you're tired of feeling stuck in the “manage or suffer” cycle, Amy’s insights will inspire you to unleash your inner wellness architect. Prepare to laugh, learn, and realize that health isn’t something happening to you—it’s something you actively create. Tune in and start building your better, bolder life today. Why this works: This episode hooks fast with Amy’s transformative outlook on health, appealing directly to those feeling overwhelmed by autoimmune diagnoses. The specific insights, like redefining health and embracing slow progress, create curiosity and promise real, tangible change—making it irresistible to click play. p.s. The DawnMarie that Amy was talking about is a different DawnMarie than the one Terry was talking about. Terry was talking about this specific DawnMarie on IG: @dawnmarie_deshaies ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero 👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊 Copyright Disclaimer 👇 ======================== Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    58 min
  7. Steve's Shocking MS Truth

    FEB 25

    Steve's Shocking MS Truth

    Join us as Steve Broadfoot, a high school teacher and MS warrior, shares his journey of resilience, humor, and unexpected revelations. Diagnosed in his 50s, Steve defies stereotypes, proving that life with MS can be vibrant and fulfilling. Discover the surprising early signs of MS, the unpredictability of the condition, and how Steve uses humor and mental resilience to thrive. In this episode, you'll hear: The early signs that led to Steve's diagnosis How Steve manages MS with a positive mindset Hilarious stories from hospital visits to home renovations Practical tips for living with MS Whether you're navigating a diagnosis, supporting a loved one, or simply curious about MS, Steve's story offers hope, laughter, and valuable insights. #MSAwareness #MultipleSclerosis #Inspiration #Resilience ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tbelowzero 👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊 Copyright Disclaimer 👇 ======================== Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    57 min
  8. Johnny's MS Secrets: Sleep, Anxiety, and Bathroom Hacks

    FEB 18

    Johnny's MS Secrets: Sleep, Anxiety, and Bathroom Hacks

    Ever wonder what fighting MS really looks like? Spoiler: It’s not always heroic — sometimes it’s just hilarious, raw, and painfully real. Meet Johnny, a guy whose life flipped upside down faster than a Netflix plot twist, and somehow turned it into a story of resilience, humor, and epic bathroom hunts. If you think MS is just about symptoms and meds, think again — this episode proves it’s also about mindset, community, and finding your own personal gym in the basement of life. Johnny’s journey from globetrotting adrenaline junkie to MS warrior is equal parts inspiring and eye-opening. He shares the brutal reality of those first terrifying weeks, the mental rollercoaster of diagnosis, and how a little thing called peer support started turning his dark days into moments of strength. Plus, discover how he turned his house and his headspace into a sanctuary, and why even in the face of chaos, he’s still cracking jokes and searching for the cleanest bathrooms in every city. We break down the power of community — because let’s face it, you don’t want to be drowning in MS alone. Johnny reveals how embracing vulnerability on Instagram, finding your “rebirth date,” and even adjusting Valentine’s Day plans can make all the difference. You’ll discover practical tips on managing sleep issues, understanding the “what ifs,” and why your attitude towards MS can be more crucial than the meds in your cabinet. This episode isn’t just about surviving MS — it’s about thriving in spite of it. If you’re looking for real talk, laughs, and a reminder that you’re not alone on this wild ride, then hit play. Johnny’s story proves that with a bit of humor, a lot of heart, and some creative bathroom strategies, you can come out the other side stronger, smarter, and maybe even a little more organized about where to find the best toilets. Perfect for anyone living with MS, supporting a loved one, or just in need of a good dose of genuine inspiration sprinkled with dad jokes and bathroom tips. Don’t miss it — your journey (and your bladder) will thank you. ✅ Thank you to all of our Warriors and supporters for listening! You can reach us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Info@4tbelowzero.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on ✔ Instagram: @4tBelowZero 👉 Hope you enjoy the video. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe 😊 Copyright Disclaimer 👇 ======================== Disclaimer- Some contents are used for educational purposes under fair use. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational, or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use

    45 min
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An international podcast about living with Multiple Sclerosis. 2 Guys with MS not MS'ing around. Hosted by Nick and Terry, discussing and attempting to normalize the conversation around life with a chronic and invisible illness.

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