5 Star Conversations

5 Star Conversations by Brendon Granger & Technology4Hotels

Welcome to 5 Star Conversations, where we uncover the career journeys and insights of the hotel industry’s most influential leaders. I’m your host, Brendon Granger. As an entrepreneur, hospitality technology ambassador, champion for charitable causes, mentor and speaker, I’m passionate about the industry and its people. Together, we’ll uncover the stories behind their careers, the pivotal moments that shaped them, and the valuable lessons they’ve learned along the way. Whether you’re looking for inspiration or practical advice to elevate your hospitality career, you’ve come to the right place.

  1. FEB 27

    5 Star Conversation with Dominic Egger on Leadership, AI & Sustainability

    Dominic Egger’s episode of 5 Star Conversations is a wide-ranging look at what modern resort leadership really takes — from goal-setting and disciplined operations to guest experience, technology, and sustainability. Speaking from Phuket, Dominic shares his non-traditional path to senior leadership, starting in the kitchens of Switzerland with a clear aim to become an Executive Chef before 30, then pivoting into General Management as family priorities and long-term career goals evolved. That same focus carried him into his current role as Director of Operations for Travel + Leisure Thailand and General Manager of the award-winning Wyndham Grand Phuket Kalim Bay, where he oversees complex multi-property operations across Thailand.A major theme of the conversation is how Dominic blends process thinking with human hospitality. Drawing on his Six Sigma Green Belt background, he explains how his team maps the full guest journey — from the “dream stage” through pre-stay, on-stay and post-stay — using feedback analysis to remove recurring friction points without turning service into something scripted. He’s clear that the best guest experience isn’t a one-person show: it comes from empowering teams to deliver authentic, hyper-personalised interactions. That people-first lens also shapes his view of AI: Dominic embraces automation in the back office and in pre/post-stay communications to create more time for real guest connection, especially in resorts where meaningful human touchpoints remain the differentiator.Dominic also challenges industry “defaults” with a practical, results-led mindset. He discusses how the pandemic created an opportunity to rethink operations — cutting what no longer serves guests, pushing digital where it improves outcomes, and doubling down on a clear positioning strategy (romance and sustainability) in an intensely competitive market like Phuket. He shares how this thinking has even led to removing traditional sales teams in some properties and reinvesting in guest experience, while still acknowledging that every hotel model is different. The episode closes on Dominic’s broader hope for the industry: a shift from short-term, output-only thinking towards purpose, empathy, sustainability and long-term value — supported by leaders who stay agile, stay close to guests, and build cultures that help people flourish.Dominic's Bio: Dominic Egger is the Director of Operations for Wyndham Destinations Thailand and the General Manager of the award-winning Wyndham Grand Phuket Kalim Bay. Since taking the helm of the luxury resort in 2017, Dominic has overseen a dramatic transformation, driving the property from a ranking of 19th to the Top 10 on TripAdvisor and securing accolades such as the "Asia's Top Design Award" and a listing in the Michelin Guide Thailand. Dominic’s path to the C-Suite is unique and formidable. Unlike the traditional rooms-division route, Dominic began his leadership journey in the high-pressure environment of the kitchen. He combined this culinary discipline with rigorous operational methodology, earning a Six Sigma Green Belt. This blend of creative flair and data-driven process improvement propelled him through senior leadership roles with IHG across Australia, Thailand, and Malaysia. A recognised thought leader in the region, Dominic is a frequent speaker on the Asia-Pacific conference circuit, covering provocative topics ranging from revenue management to the "Innovation Agenda." He is a strong advocate for digital transformation to streamline guest communication pre- and post-COVID. Podcast Contact Details:Email: Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.auLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brendongrangerPhone: +61 2 8317 4000Phone: 1300 503 657 (Australia only)Web: www.Technology4Hotels.com.au#hospitalityindustry #guestexperience #futureofhospitality #innovationinhospitality #careeradvice #hospitalityleadership

    54 min
  2. FEB 2

    5 Star Conversations: Another 2025 Best Of - Advice That Shaped Today's Leaders

    For this Best Of 2025 edition of 5 Star Conversations, we asked a deceptively simple question: What’s the best advice you’ve ever received throughout your career? What emerged was not a list of neat soundbites, but a collection of lived moments—often unlabelled as “advice” at the time—that only revealed their meaning years later. Across the conversations, the most powerful guidance rarely came from formal mentoring sessions. It came from small gestures, unexpected opportunities, and leaders who took time to listen, respond, or say the uncomfortable thing when it mattered.A clear theme running through the compilation is accessibility and humility. Several guests reflected on advice that challenged the instinct to build barriers as careers accelerate—whether that’s becoming “too busy,” hiding behind titles, or losing touch with people reaching out. The idea of making yourself reachable, finding time for a coffee, or staying open to unplanned conversations surfaced repeatedly as career-defining guidance. Alongside this sat another recurring lesson: focus. Not trying to be great at everything, but being deliberate about what you want to be known for—both as a leader and as a hotel—while accepting that clarity often requires saying no as much as saying yes.Finally, many of the strongest reflections centred on patience, breadth of experience, and resilience. Advice to slow down promotions, step sideways rather than always up, learn outside your comfort zone, and truly understand the numbers and mechanics behind the operation all featured prominently. Just as often, guests spoke about hospitality as a lifestyle rather than a job—one that demands passion, perseverance, and perspective over the long term. Taken together, this Best Of compilation is less about career shortcuts and more about showing up consistently, staying grounded, and trusting that the right advice often makes sense only when you look back.#HospitalityIndustry #GuestExperience #FutureOfHospitality #InnovationInHospitality #CareerAdvice #HospitalityLeaders www.Technology4Hotels.com.au Email: Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brendongranger Phone +61 2 8317 4000 Phone 1300 503 657 (Australia only)

    22 min
  3. JAN 5

    5 Star Conversations: 2025 Best Of - What Today’s Leaders Tell the Next Generation

    This compilation brings together one of the most consistent and heartfelt themes from 5 Star Conversations in 2025: advice for those entering, or considering, a career in hospitality. Across roles, regions and career stages, the message is clear. Hospitality is not a short-term play, but a deeply rewarding industry for those willing to learn, be patient and commit to the journey. The strongest advice is to start at the foundations, understand how hotels truly operate from front of house to heart of house, and resist the pressure to rush progression before mastering the basics. A second, equally strong thread is openness to opportunity, challenge, and people. Many leaders spoke about saying “yes” before feeling fully ready, moving sideways rather than upwards, working in different countries, cultures, and disciplines, and deliberately choosing learning over title or money. This curiosity, combined with humility, builds resilience and confidence over time. The industry rewards those who put their hand up, ask questions, embrace uncertainty, and stay positive, even when self-doubt inevitably appears. Hospitality, more than most industries, values initiative, adaptability and a genuine interest in people. Finally, the compilation reinforces that long-term success in hospitality is built through relationships. Mentorship, strong networks and community connections repeatedly surfaced as career-defining factors. Leaders emphasised the importance of finding trusted mentors outside one’s immediate organisation, building genuine networks based on mutual support, and remembering that hospitality is ultimately a people business — both for guests and colleagues. For those who enjoy human connection, continuous learning and real-world problem solving, the collective advice is simple but powerful: hospitality is a career that endures, evolves and gives back far more than it takes. #HospitalityIndustry #GuestExperience #FutureOfHospitality #InnovationInHospitality #CareerAdvice #HospitalityLeaders www.Technology4Hotels.com.au Email: Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brendongranger Phone +61 2 8317 4000 Phone 1300 503 657 (Australia only)

    21 min
  4. 12/01/2025

    5 Star Conversations with Marcus Hanna - From Banquet Waiter to Chief Operating Officer

    Marcus Hanna, Chief Operating Officer at La Vie Hotels & Resorts, shares a 25-year journey from banquet waiter at Sydney’s Regent (now Four Seasons) to leading luxury assets across Australia and Singapore—including the 2,030-room Fairmont Singapore & Swissôtel The Stamford through a $200m transformation and COVID. He credits early discipline from rowing for teamwork and resilience, and highlights mentors such as Clive Scott, Michael Issenberg, and Simon McGrath. A recurring theme: say yes to opportunities, be proactive, and learn every facet of the hotel—front and heart of house—before racing for the next title. On technology and operations, Marcus argues: tech only delivers when people are trained to use it well. He recounts introducing “assisted self check-in” at Swissôtel The Stamford to eliminate queues while freeing teams to build emotional connections—turning a transactional moment into service. He champions white-label (third-party) hotel management for owner flexibility and performance, and stresses that genuine hospitality still hinges on human touch: get breakfast right, maintain standards, and you’ll earn repeat dining and stronger room revenue. Looking ahead, Marcus expects wider adoption of third-party management, more expert F&B partnerships, and deeper sustainability practices (NABERS, energy efficiency). AI and BI will accelerate, but culture, standards, and training will remain decisive. His advice to emerging leaders: don’t rush—master the basics, take roles that stretch you (even abroad), anticipate your boss’s needs, and keep a glass-half-full mindset. Above all, enjoy the work; hospitality’s job is simple—surprise, delight, and make people happy. Marcus Hanna's Bio: With 25+ years in hospitality, Marcus Hanna became Chief Operating Officer at La Vie Hotels & Resorts in October 2024, leading day-to-day operations and performance. Previously, he spent 20 years with Accor, most recently as Vice President Operations Pacific for Sofitel, MGallery & Emblems, overseeing 23 luxury hotels. Marcus began as a banquet waiter at Sydney’s Regent (now Four Seasons) while studying at Ryde Catering College and competing as a multi-time Australian rowing champion and four-time national representative (twice at World Championships). His career spans InterContinental roles in Sydney, London, Malta and San Francisco; senior roles at Sofitel Melbourne on Collins (multi-million-dollar renovation; project lead for Qantas First Class Lounges in Sydney and Melbourne); GM of Pullman Sydney Olympic Park; Sofitel Gold Coast Broadbeach (QLD Tourism Awards); Sofitel Brisbane Central (2014 G20 host; two-time Best Deluxe Hotel); Novotel Singapore Clarke Quay (record results); and Fairmont Singapore & Swissôtel The Stamford (2,030 rooms; $200m refurbishment; promoted Managing Director in 2021). He champions high standards, team development, and strong owner returns. #hospitalityindustry #guestexperience #futureofhospitality #innovationinhospitality #careeradvice #hospitalityleaders Podcast Contact Details: Email: Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brendongranger Phone: +61 2 8317 4000 Phone: 1300 503 657 (Australia only) Web: www.Technology4Hotels.com.au

    39 min
  5. 11/03/2025

    5 Star Conversations with Zoran Pejović - From Seafarer Roots to Luxury Resorts

    Zoran Pejović, Chief Growth & Strategy Officer at Lošinj Hotels & Villas, joins us from Croatia to unpack two decades across luxury development and operations (Aman, Silversea, Celebrity). He shares how a scholarship re-routed him from politics into hospitality, why “elevator-pitch clarity” matters for leaders, and how his near-Buddhist worldview shapes decision-making. From early bar shifts to opening ultra-luxury properties, Zoran frames hospitality as stewardship: aligning brand story, local context, and responsible growth. We dive into the craft of creating peak, transformational moments—moving beyond “service” to experiences that genuinely change guest state. Zoran challenges one-size-fits-all “trends,” arguing for context over slogans and calling out the gap between what guests say they value and what actually drives decisions. He also makes a compelling case for bringing seasoned talent (40s–50s) into frontline roles to stabilise teams, elevate human connection, and mentor younger staff who grew up more digitally than socially. Looking ahead, Zoran sees hospitality as society’s essential “third place” in an AI-heavy world—where tech should remove friction so people can add meaning. We discuss balancing automation with touch, designing across five traveling generations, and why leaders must stay accessible (a lesson from GM Sunny Lusted that changed his career). If you’re a GM or senior hotel leader, this episode offers practical perspective on using technology to enhance guest experience—without losing the soul of your operation. Zoran Pejović's Bio: Zoran Pejović is a seasoned hospitality development and operations executive with 20+ years of international experience, specialising in luxury and ultra-luxury. He has conceptualised, developed, opened, and operated some of the world’s most distinguished hotels and restaurants, with leadership defined by a multidisciplinary approach, responsible business practices, and a deep belief in education and human potential. Currently Chief Growth & Strategy Officer at Lošinj Hotels & Villas, he oversees the strategic direction of its portfolio on the Adriatic’s Island of Vitality, focusing on enhancing luxury and premium experiences, driving revenue growth, and positioning the company as an industry leader through responsible, innovative practices. How Zoran sums himself up: Some build hotels, some build ideas — I try to do both. Born in Kotor, based in Split, working on Lošinj, loyal to the Adriatic, the Mediterranean, and to intellectual integrity. Running growth & strategy at Lošinj Hotels & Villas, shaping storylines from concept to global comms. Along the way, helped bring to life Maslina Resort on Hvar and Villa Nai 3.3 on Dugi Otok. Traveled 100+ countries, worked on three continents and across the seas. Into wine, cigars, and conversations from hospitality to politics. Father of two, partner to a Swedish shield maiden. Doesn’t buy free will, does buy good wine. Almost a Buddhist. #HospitalityIndustry#GuestExperience#FutureOfHospitality#InnovationInHospitality#CareerAdvice #HospitalityLeaders Podcast Contact Details: Email: Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brendongranger Phone: +61 2 8317 4000 Phone: 1300 503 657 (Australia only) Web: www.Technology4Hotels.com.au

    51 min
  6. 10/07/2025

    5 Star Conversations with Wayne Taranto - Leading Ovolo’s Growth with Passion and Innovation

    In this episode of 5 Star Conversations, I sat down with Wayne Taranto, the Chief Operating Officer of Ovolo Group. We talk about how Wayne's journey into hospitality started unexpectedly, despite initially considering a career in the building industry. A pivotal moment came when he secured a role at Bobby McGee's, a popular entertainment venue in the late 90s. This experience ignited his passion for hospitality, and he quickly rose through the ranks, learning invaluable lessons in food and beverage and guest service. His career has spanned several senior positions in well-known Australian hospitality groups, including Event Hospitality & Entertainment, Accor, and Crown Group, where he became known for his ability to foster high-performing teams and craft emotionally connected guest experiences.Wayne reflects on a memorable moment in his career when he led a resort in Yeppoon, Queensland. He recounts the deep emotional connection he developed with his team and the local community, which became evident when nearly 300 employees lined the road to bid him farewell. This experience solidified his commitment to the hospitality industry and reaffirmed his passion for creating memorable guest experiences. As a leader, Wayne attributes much of his success to mentors such as David Sergeant, Garth Simmons, Peter Hill, Simon McGrath, and Girish Jhunjhnuwala, who guided him through various stages of his career, teaching him the importance of leadership, resilience, and adaptability.Wayne also shares his thoughts on the future of hospitality, emphasizing the need for a new generation of leaders who can adapt to the evolving landscape of the industry. He believes that while technology like AI will continue to play a significant role in streamlining operations, it’s essential for future leaders to maintain a strong focus on human connection and mentorship. For those entering the industry, Wayne’s advice is clear: seek out a mentor, be proactive in seeking new opportunities, and never stop learning. As he moves forward with Ovolo, Wayne remains committed to shaping the brand’s next phase of growth, fostering a culture of excellence, and continuing to create extraordinary experiences for both guests and employees.Wayne Taranto's Bio:Wayne Taranto is the Chief Operating Officer of Ovolo Group, overseeing the company's Australian hotel portfolio since 2023. With over 30 years of experience in hospitality, Wayne has held leadership positions in renowned brands such as Event Hospitality & Entertainment, Accor, and Crown Group. His expertise spans launching luxury hotel brands, creating innovative food and beverage concepts, and driving operational excellence. At Ovolo, he plays a key role in the brand’s continued growth and evolution, contributing to its success, including being named Hotel Brand of the Year at the 2022 HM Awards.Prior to Ovolo, Wayne served as the CEO of d'Albora Marinas and held senior roles with Pullman Hotels and Rydges Hotels & Resorts. Known for fostering high-performing teams and delivering exceptional guest experiences, Wayne's leadership style is influenced by mentors such as David Sergeant, Garth Simmons, and Simon McGrath. He is passionate about service excellence and the role of human connection in hospitality, ensuring that innovation and technology enhance, rather than replace, the emotional engagement that defines the guest experience. #HospitalityIndustry #GuestExperience #FutureOfHospitality #InnovationInHospitality #CareerAdvice #hospitalityleaders Podcast Contact Details: Email: ⁠⁠Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠linkedin.com/in/brendongranger⁠⁠ Phone: +61 2 8317 4000 Phone: 1300 503 657 (Australia only) Web: ⁠⁠www.Technology4Hotels.com.au

    35 min
  7. 09/01/2025

    5 Star Conversations with Mario Mendis - Future of Hotels: AI, Culture & Human Connection

    In this episode of 5 Star Conversations, we sit down with international hotelier Mario Mendis, whose 26-year journey in hospitality began humbly as a kitchen hand in Brisbane. Mario shares how his early exposure to the industry through his father, combined with hands-on experiences in Sri Lanka and Dubai, shaped his deep-rooted passion for food and beverage. These formative years helped him build a global career that spans Australia, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia—including his transformative role as General Manager of Sofitel Saigon Plaza, where he spearheaded post-COVID recovery by reinventing the hotel’s lifestyle and wellness offerings. Mario reflects on the evolution of hospitality, especially the need for hotels to adapt with creativity and resilience. He discusses how partnerships with external lifestyle and wellness brands helped reposition properties for new demographics—citing unique ventures like speakeasy barbershops and infrared saunas as game-changers. His belief in F&B as the soul of a hotel is clear, with an emphasis on authenticity, ambiance, and innovation. These elements, he argues, are not only vital for guest experience but also instrumental in building the hotel as a destination in itself. Looking to the future, Mario shares both excitement and caution around emerging technologies like AI and robotics. While acknowledging their potential to improve operational efficiency, he stresses the irreplaceable value of emotional intelligence and genuine human connection in hospitality. He offers powerful advice for aspiring hoteliers—championing what he calls the “Three Ps”: passion, patience, and perseverance. For Mario, success isn’t just about climbing the ranks, but about building meaningful relationships and embracing every part of the hotel ecosystem with curiosity and care.Mario Mendis' Bio: Mario Mendis is an accomplished international hotelier with a 26-year career that began humbly in Brisbane as a kitchen steward in 1999. Since then, he has held senior leadership roles across luxury city and resort hotels in Australia, Sri Lanka, Dubai, Bermuda, Thailand, and Vietnam. Most notably, he served as General Manager of the iconic Sofitel Saigon Plaza, where he led the hotel through a post-COVID transformation, reinventing its lifestyle offerings and repositioning the property to meet the evolving demands of both local and international guests. In addition to his operational leadership, Mario has been a strong advocate for the broader hospitality industry. As former Chairman of EuroCham Vietnam’s Tourism & Hospitality Committee, he actively championed key policy reforms around visa access, sustainable tourism, and medical and retirement travel. His commitment to diversity is equally evident—signing the Women’s Pledge for Gender Diversity in Vietnam and mentoring future industry leaders through guest speaking roles at RMIT Vietnam. Mario’s passion for hospitality is deeply rooted in family tradition, with his father also having enjoyed a distinguished hotel career. This heritage has instilled in him a strong sense of cultural connection, service excellence, and innovation. Whether judging on Top Chef Vietnam or guiding multicultural teams across the globe, Mario brings strategic insight, adaptability, and a genuine enthusiasm for elevating guest experiences and industry standards. Podcast Contact Details:Email: Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brendongranger Phone: +61 2 8317 4000 Phone: 1300 503 657 (Australia only) Web: www.Technology4Hotels.com.au #HospitalityIndustry#GuestExperience#FutureOfHospitality#InnovationInHospitality#CareerAdvice #HospitalityLeaders

    44 min
  8. 08/04/2025

    5 Star Conversations with Wayne Williams - Scaling Minor Hotel Group Globally & Leading with Purpose

    In this episode of Five Star Conversations, I sit down with Wayne Williams, CFO of the Minor Hotel Group. Over two decades, Wayne has played a key role in the group’s transformation—from 10 properties in Thailand to more than 560 hotels across 58 countries. We unpack the operational shifts, cultural adaptation, and leadership mindset that helped drive this global expansion, while staying true to service excellence. Wayne offers candid insights into how the Minor Hotel Group is embracing technology to elevate the guest experience—balancing automation with personal attention, and making sure the tech serves people, not the other way around. We also explore the growing importance of curation, wellness, ESG, and how hotels can future-proof through behavioural and organisational change—not just digital transformation. Beyond the boardroom, Wayne shares his long-standing support of Hands Across the Water, a charity focused on creating opportunities for children across Thailand. It’s a powerful reminder of the impact hoteliers can have—both within the industry and in the communities they serve. A thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation with one of the most respected financial leaders in global hospitality. About Wayne Williams: Wayne Williams' Bio: Wayne Williams is Chief Financial Officer for the Minor Hotel Group, the hotel division of the Thai-listed company Minor International. He has more than 20 years’ experience working in Thailand and has been with Minor International for more than 18 years. In that time, the hotel group has grown from having 10 hotels to now having over 564 hotels in more than 58 countries, with a turnover in excess of USD $5 billion last year. Prior to joining Minor, Wayne held a number of senior finance roles in hotels and hospitality businesses in Thailand, Australia, and the Pacific. Wayne was previously President of the Australian-Thai Chamber of Commerce in Thailand and was a member of the Thailand Board of Trade. He is currently Vice President of the Advance Australia Council of Thailand and is a board member of the Hands Across the Water charity foundation. An AustCham Presidents’ Award winner in 2024, he was not only voted by peers in 2023 as a Top 10 Global CFO in the annual Icon Awards in the US, but his hotel team won the Global Finance Team of the Year in 2024. A Commerce graduate from the University of Queensland, he has been an Australian CPA certified for over 20 years. #HospitalityIndustry #GuestExperience #FutureOfHospitality #InnovationInHospitality #CareerAdvice #hospitalityleaders Podcast Contact Details: Email: ⁠Brendon@Technology4hotels.com.au⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠linkedin.com/in/brendongranger⁠ Phone: +61 2 8317 4000 Phone: 1300 503 657 (Australia only) Web: ⁠www.Technology4Hotels.com.au

    34 min

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Welcome to 5 Star Conversations, where we uncover the career journeys and insights of the hotel industry’s most influential leaders. I’m your host, Brendon Granger. As an entrepreneur, hospitality technology ambassador, champion for charitable causes, mentor and speaker, I’m passionate about the industry and its people. Together, we’ll uncover the stories behind their careers, the pivotal moments that shaped them, and the valuable lessons they’ve learned along the way. Whether you’re looking for inspiration or practical advice to elevate your hospitality career, you’ve come to the right place.