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  1. #535 - Why is chronic disease still winning? | Mark Clermont (CEO, Cecelia Health) & Wendi Mader (CCO)

    Jun 24

    #535 - Why is chronic disease still winning? | Mark Clermont (CEO, Cecelia Health) & Wendi Mader (CCO)

    Mark Clermont is the CEO of Cecelia Health, and Wendi Mader is the company's Chief Commercial Officer. Cecelia is a virtual multi-specialty medical practice, licensed in all 50 states, that helps employers, payers, health systems, and life sciences companies manage chronic and cardiometabolic disease and bring down the cost of care. It's not a point solution. It's a medical practice that prescribes and manages medication (including GLP-1s, from prescribing through titration and side-effect management), runs intensive nutrition therapy, and handles behavior and lifestyle care, all through a team of RNs, RDs, certified diabetes educators, and physicians. The model is built to extend primary care, not replace it, and to coordinate across specialists instead of adding one more disconnected program. Mark and Wendi's argument is simple: chronic disease isn't winning because we lack apps or tools. It's winning because care is fragmented and nobody's tying it together. GLP-1s are making that worse before they make it better. They're the first drug class with indications spanning diabetes, obesity, sleep apnea, fatty liver, and soon addiction, which means a single patient can suddenly need four specialists who don't talk to each other. Cecelia's bet is that a multi-specialty practice can be the layer that connects all of it. We get into: Why chronic disease keeps winning even though there are more apps, tools, and wellness programs than ever, and what point solutions got wrongWhat actually happens to a patient with diabetes and high blood pressure inside Cecelia's model versus the system todayWhy GLP-1s are the first drug class to cross medical specialties, and why that's making fragmentation worse right nowThe patient on a high-dose GLP-1 and an SSRI who almost ended up in the ER, and what the direct-to-consumer prescriber missedHow the US can rank dead last among developed nations and still be the system Mark wouldn't trade for anywhere elseWhere the industry is over-indexing on AI in chronic care, and where Wendi thinks tech actually belongsThe specialty shortage, healthcare deserts, and rural-health funding, and how virtual coordinated care reaches patients brick-and-mortar can'tWhat's different for patients five years from now if Cecelia gets this right— Brought to you by: Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations.  —  Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/

    31 min
  2. #534 - Can Cotiviti build the infrastructure layer healthcare's never had? | Ric Sinclair (CEO, Cotiviti)

    Jun 17

    #534 - Can Cotiviti build the infrastructure layer healthcare's never had? | Ric Sinclair (CEO, Cotiviti)

    Ric Sinclair is the CEO of Cotiviti, an enterprise healthcare software and data company that serves hundreds of health plans — including the top 25 in the country — across payment integrity, interoperability, risk adjustment, value-based care, and member engagement, touching coverage for over 300 million patients and members. Cotiviti pairs algorithms and AI with thousands of clinical nurses, MDs, and content experts in a human-in-the-loop model, working across the full administrative ecosystem that moves between payers, providers, patients, and pharma. Ric's core conviction is that healthcare's central problem isn't a data problem or a technology problem — it's a coordination problem, and what the system has never had is a true infrastructure layer to tie it together. Cotiviti isn't trying to pick a side between payers and providers; the bet is that a neutral party sitting in the middle can drive fair, transparent outcomes and pull down the trillion-plus dollars of administrative waste in U.S. healthcare. We discuss: Why healthcare's core problem isn't a data problem or a technology problem — it's a coordination problem, and what it actually takes to build the first infrastructure layer the system has ever hadThe real difference between owning a decade of data assets (and the Edifecs integration) and becoming the infrastructure the industry runs on — and where Cotiviti is in that build todayHow "human in the loop" works at scale — pairing AI with thousands of nurses, MDs, and content experts so every claim is reviewed fairly and problems get predicted before they happenWhy Ric's answer to AI isn't "cut the 10-person team to 2" — it's "take all 10 and do what 50 could," and what that augment-don't-replace math means for client ROIHow you build trust and accountability into an AI workflow rather than bolting it on — and who's accountable when models start shaping decisions about claims and careHow to sit in the neutral middle between payers and providers who don't trust each other — and what it takes to build something both sides actually believe is fairWhat Ric learned as a working drummer in Nashville before healthcare found him — leading without the spotlight, making others better, and why simplicity is a discipline that transfers straight into businessWhat a truly differentiated healthcare platform looks like five years out — and the test Ric uses for what "winning" means: a family of five at the dinner table who never have to think about the administrative machinery behind their care— Brought to you by: Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations.  —  Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/

    19 min
  3. #533 - Why technology alone can't fix value-based care | Tim Elliott (CEO, Navvis)

    May 21

    #533 - Why technology alone can't fix value-based care | Tim Elliott (CEO, Navvis)

    Tim Elliott is the CEO of Navvis, a value-based enablement company that works with health systems, health plans, physician groups, and employers to drive performance under value-based agreements. Navvis takes a cross-continuum view of care — supporting patients before, during, and after the physician visit — and operates across the full spectrum of payment models, from full-risk MA and MSSP ACOs to bundled payments, TEAMS, and CJR. Tim's core conviction is that physicians are the linchpin of any sustainable change in value-based care, and that the "last mile" of transformation is change management — not technology. Navvis doesn't show up with a blank piece of paper or a mandatory platform; they bring a point of view on what world-class looks like and engage physicians in the refinement and rollout. We discuss: What AI consistently misses in value-based care — and why "human in the loop" needs to be on steroids in healthcare, not just a check on the modelHow to recognize when a health system is rolling tools out faster than clinicians can absorb them — and why bottom-up physician demand is reshaping the AI rollout playbookThe real difference between a care model physicians co-designed and one that was handed to them — and how Navvis approaches refinement vs. a blank-paper exerciseWhat surprises health systems most when they move into real downside risk for the first time — the misalignment between contract incentives and operational behaviorWhy "two standards of care" is the wrong frame for value-based vs. fee-for-service patients — and what the EMR needs to recognize at the point of encounterThe alignment problem at the executive and physician level that quietly kills downside-risk contracts before the year is outThe lesson Tim hopes the industry finally learns 20 years from now — why the 3-5% of patients driving 60-80% of cost are the unfinished work of this eraWho Navvis is built for, and why their model is to optimize existing technology rather than force a 12-to-18-month rip-and-replace— Brought to you by: Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations.  —  Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/

    16 min
  4. #532 - Why you can't hire your way out of healthcare's workforce crisis | Navin Gupta (CEO, Viventium) + Adam Lewis (Founder, Apploi)

    May 6

    #532 - Why you can't hire your way out of healthcare's workforce crisis | Navin Gupta (CEO, Viventium) + Adam Lewis (Founder, Apploi)

    Navin Gupta is the CEO of Viventium, a verticalized HCM platform purpose-built for the post-acute care market — serving home health, skilled nursing, and hospice providers. He's spent over a decade at the intersection of senior care and technology, with deep experience across EHR, revenue cycle management, and engagement platforms for senior living. Adam Lewis is the founder of Apploi and now GM of Talent and Workforce Management at Viventium following the February acquisition. He's been building HR tech since 2007 and grew Apploi into a leading recruiting, credentialing, onboarding, and scheduling platform for healthcare. Together, the combined company now serves 13,000+ provider organizations and is on a mission to fix workforce instability in the most demographically urgent corner of healthcare. We discuss: Why post-acute care is the most mission-critical — and most underserved — tech opportunity in healthcareThe four-part workforce crisis every operator is fighting: supply, utilization, retention, and complianceWhat the Apploi + Viventium acquisition unlocks that a five-year partnership couldn'tWhy hiring friction is a direct hit to revenue — and why staffing now sits with CEOs and COOs, not just HRThe case for purpose-built vertical platforms over retrofitted horizontal HCMThe Perks4Care acquisition, and why you cannot hire your way out of a retention problemWhere AI creates real leverage in caregiver hiring — and how to deploy it without losing the human touchThree audit questions every post-acute provider should ask their current vendor today— Brought to you by:Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations. — Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/

    22 min
  5. #528 - Aaron Sheedy, COO at Xealth

    Mar 6

    #528 - Aaron Sheedy, COO at Xealth

    Join us on the latest episode, hosted by Jared S. Taylor! Our Guest: Aaron Sheedy, COO at Xealth. What you’ll get out of this episode: Building Xealth with health system partners: Early validation from Providence and other major systems helped shape a scalable integration platform for digital health tools.Improving patient readiness through digital engagement: Sending timely pre- and post-visit information dramatically improves patient preparation, including a 42% increase in MRI appointment readiness.Reducing friction in patient communication: Portal-adjacent access allows patients to view care instructions without logging into traditional patient portals, driving significantly higher engagement.Samsung’s healthcare vision: With devices already in millions of homes, Samsung aims to use wearable data and home technology to connect patients to the right care at the right time.Digital health strategy beyond the EHR: Health systems relying solely on their EHR for digital health risk lacking a true digital strategy and differentiation. To learn more about:Website https://www.xealth.com/Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/company/xealth/ Our sponsors for this episode are:Sage Growth Partners https://www.sage-growth.com/Quantum Health https://www.quantum-health.com/ Show and Host's Socials:Slice of HealthcareLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sliceofhealthcare/ Jared S TaylorLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/ WHAT IS SLICE OF HEALTHCARE?The go-to site for digital health executive/provider interviews, technology updates, and industry news. Listed to in 65+ countries.

    30 min
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