5THREAD Podcast

Joanna Czutkowna

Welcome to the 5 Thread podcast, where each series we unravel the intricacies of a specific topic by talking to 5 industry experts to gain different perspectives and Insights. I'm your host Joanna Czutkowa CEO of 5THREAD, and in each instalment, we'll dive deep into the world of sports apparel, guided by the voices of industry experts. In our inaugural series, we're shining a spotlight on five remarkable women who are redefining the game in sports apparel. These women aren't just chosen for their expertise, but also for their honesty and unique perspectives. Not only do we discuss the sports industry and their perspective on sports apparel I also dig into what motivates them as change makers and as advocates of sustainability. So join us as we hear insights and stories you won't find anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned professional or simply curious about the inner workings of the sports apparel world. This is the 5 Thread podcast, where every thread tells a story.

  1. S4 Episode 2 - Clive Michallat Co-Founder Action For Sport on the Hidden Barriers Preventing Children from Participating In Sport

    Jun 15

    S4 Episode 2 - Clive Michallat Co-Founder Action For Sport on the Hidden Barriers Preventing Children from Participating In Sport

    In this episode, we speak with Clive Michallat, Co-Founder of Action For Sport, a registered charity established in 2020 to tackle one of the hidden barriers preventing children from participating in sport. With more than 20 years of experience in children's sport, football scouting, education and youth development, Clive has worked as a prison officer, in a secure children's unit, and as a pastoral leader in an inner-city school in Bradford. Alongside fellow co-founder Andrew Kenure, he noticed a concerning trend: children were missing school on PE days. Digging deeper, they discovered that many families simply could not afford PE kit, trainers or sports boots. For some children, the fear of embarrassment was enough to stop them attending school altogether. What started as a simple initiative to collect outgrown sports clothing and footwear has grown into a charity that has distributed more than £500,000 worth of kit, diverted over 12 tonnes of textiles from landfill, and helped thousands of young people access sport with dignity and confidence. In this conversation, we explore: * The link between access to sports kit, school attendance and participation. * The hidden challenges facing children and families. * How reused sportswear can create both social and environmental impact. * The role schools can play in reducing barriers to sport. * Action For Sport's plans to launch school-based recycling systems that keep sports kit in circulation. This is a powerful discussion about inclusion, opportunity and why something as simple as a pair of trainers can make the difference between a child taking part or missing school. Find out more about Action for Sport via their website https://www.actionforsport.org.uk/

    58 min
  2. S3 Episode 4 - Neil Meredith: From Irresponsible to Responsible - Why Football Cares when it comes to Sustainability

    05/12/2025

    S3 Episode 4 - Neil Meredith: From Irresponsible to Responsible - Why Football Cares when it comes to Sustainability

    In this episode, I sit down with Neil Meredith, an industry leader in the world of sport and tech who often finds himself bridging the gap between innovative start-ups, brands, and football clubs. While Neil doesn’t come from a sustainability background, he’s developed a deep understanding over the years of what it means to shift from irresponsible to responsible practices, particularly when it comes to product and partnerships in football. We dive into the evolution he’s witnessed across his career, the operational challenges clubs face, and why there can be a disconnect between communication between smaller brands and large clubs. Despite the constraints, Neil believes that football really does care about sustainability—it just needs to navigate a complex landscape to make it happen. What makes this conversation especially meaningful is Neil’s grounded, down-to-earth approach and the ability to see sustainability from all sides - both understanding the commercial constraints but also the opportunities. We talk not only about the practical side of the industry but also about how important communication and skills such as resilience, empathy, and kindness are. Qualities that are often overlooked but crucial to making real change in the day-to-day business of sport. If you're curious about how sustainability meets football, and what it takes to make change from the inside out, this one’s a must-listen.

    50 min
  3. S3 Episode 3 - Ben Hardy-Jones Sustainability Lead at Desert Vipers  on Kit, Climate and the Courage to Lead Differently

    04/21/2025

    S3 Episode 3 - Ben Hardy-Jones Sustainability Lead at Desert Vipers on Kit, Climate and the Courage to Lead Differently

    I’m joined by Ben Hardy-Jones, Sustainability Lead at the Desert Vipers. Ben is responsible for measuring and reducing the Desert Vipers' environmental impact, identifying ways to drive widespread sustainability efforts within the community and through partnerships, and championing sustainability to mass audiences through media. In this episode, we discuss kit, and why it has been a key focus for the Desert Vipers over this past season. We talked about how being new to the industry gave Ben a fresh perspective, why 94% of their plastic footprint came from kit, and how he’s navigated partnerships, commercial pressures, and fan expectations while keeping sustainability front and centre. Ben gives us an honest, insightful look at what it really takes to embed sustainability into a fast-moving, high-profile sporting organisation. From tackling plastic in kit and reshaping supply chains to navigating internal buy-in and the complexity of sponsorship logistics, this episode is packed with practical lessons for anyone working at the intersection of sport and sustainability. We explore why being new to the industry can be a superpower, the hidden environmental impact of sports kit, and how to build trust with suppliers, staff, and players. Ben talks about making brave decisions in uncertain conditions, why iteration often beats perfection in sustainability work, and how kit redistribution can create meaningful social impact. This conversation goes beyond carbon metrics and annual reports. It’s about taking bold action, staying honest about what’s within your control, and being willing to iterate, fail, and try again. If you work in sport, sustainability, or anywhere between the two, this one is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. 🔗 Connect with Ben: Ben Hardy-Jones on LinkedIn

    52 min
  4. S3 BONUS episode Part 3 - Jessica Reed-Robbins NLP  Master Trainer and Breakthrough Coach on  staying resilient, influencing others and avoiding burnout.

    03/11/2025 ·  Bonus

    S3 BONUS episode Part 3 - Jessica Reed-Robbins NLP Master Trainer and Breakthrough Coach on staying resilient, influencing others and avoiding burnout.

    In this special three-part bonus episode, I sit down with Jessica Reed-Robbins, an NLP Master Trainer and Breakthrough Coach, to explore the deep connections between our belief systems, resilience, and how we can apply mindset tools to navigate challenges. 🔹 Part 1: What is NLP & How Can We Use It? Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) is a powerful tool for transformation—but what exactly is it? Jess explains NLP in simple terms and offers real-world applications to help you improve communication, reframe challenges, and unlock your potential. 🔹 Part 2: Resilience & Empowerment for Changemakers Working in sustainability can be tough. Burnout, frustration, and feeling like progress is slow are common challenges. Jess shares powerful mindset shifts and practical strategies to help sustainability professionals stay resilient, motivated, and impactful. 🔹 Part 3: The Power of Childhood Beliefs How do the experiences and messages we receive as children shape our self-belief, resilience, and even our approach to sustainability? Jess unpacks the psychology behind our thought patterns and how we can rewire them for success. Whether you're in sustainability, leadership, or just looking for ways to feel more in control of your mindset, this conversation is packed with insights and actionable takeaways. 📌 Find out more about Jess and her resources at https://www.reed-robbins.com/ 🎧 Tune in now and let’s dive in! 🚀

    53 min

About

Welcome to the 5 Thread podcast, where each series we unravel the intricacies of a specific topic by talking to 5 industry experts to gain different perspectives and Insights. I'm your host Joanna Czutkowa CEO of 5THREAD, and in each instalment, we'll dive deep into the world of sports apparel, guided by the voices of industry experts. In our inaugural series, we're shining a spotlight on five remarkable women who are redefining the game in sports apparel. These women aren't just chosen for their expertise, but also for their honesty and unique perspectives. Not only do we discuss the sports industry and their perspective on sports apparel I also dig into what motivates them as change makers and as advocates of sustainability. So join us as we hear insights and stories you won't find anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned professional or simply curious about the inner workings of the sports apparel world. This is the 5 Thread podcast, where every thread tells a story.