Excess Returns

Excess Returns

Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.

  1. 4 GIỜ TRƯỚC

    The Expensive Truth About Cheap Investing | Bogumil Baranowski

    In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler sits down with investor and author Bogumil Baranowski to discuss one of investing’s most important mindset shifts: moving beyond cheap stocks to paying up for quality and exceptional opportunities. Drawing on lessons from Warren Buffett, Ben Graham, and his own journey, Bogumil explains how value investing evolves across three key phases—buying cheap, buying good, and learning to pay up. The conversation explores patience, conviction, dead money periods, family wealth stewardship, and how to think about value versus price in a noisy world. Topics covered: • The “cheapest dentist” analogy and why investors chase bargains • The three phases of investor evolution: cheap, good, and exceptional • Lessons from Buffett, Munger, and Graham on paying up for quality • How to hold through drawdowns and dead money periods • Why patience and conviction are the hardest investing skills • Frugality, compounding, and lessons from his grandmother • How long-term family investors think about wealth and stewardship • The difference between price and value in modern markets • How to know when cheap is too cheap and quality is worth paying for • Why great investments are often simple to explain • The story behind his Wall Street Journal essay “The Expensive Truth About Cheap Investments” Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction – The cheapest dentist analogy 03:00 Why investors love cheap stocks 07:00 The evolution from bargain hunter to quality investor 09:00 Examples from Ben Graham, Buffett, and Facebook 15:30 Conviction, drawdowns, and dead money 19:00 Judging success by business progress, not stock price 27:00 Lessons from grandma on value and frugality 31:00 How Buffett evolved from cheap to quality 45:00 Investing for future generations 49:00 Invisible wealth and stewardship 52:00 The value investor dilemma 58:00 Equal-weight vs market-cap indexes 59:00 Lessons for the average investor 1:02:00 How much research you really need 1:04:30 How his WSJ essay came to life and final takeaways

    1 giờ 9 phút
  2. 1 NGÀY TRƯỚC

    Evidence Based Factor Investing | Matt Zenz

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Matt Zenz of Longview Research Partners to explore factor investing, evidence-based strategies, and the challenges and opportunities in today’s markets. Matt shares insights from his engineering background, his time at DFA, and his current work running the Longview Advantage ETF (EBI). We cover the nuances of value, momentum, size, implementation, and how investors can think more effectively about long-term returns. Topics covered: Matt’s journey from engineering to investing Lessons learned at DFA and the foundation of evidence-based investing Defining factors and what makes them credible The role of value, momentum, quality, and size in portfolios The challenges of intangibles and redefining value Large cap tech dominance, mean reversion, and whether the world has changed Factor timing, valuation spreads, and Cliff Asness’ “sin” framework How momentum can be integrated with value tilts Portfolio construction: combining factors vs sleeve approaches Implementation challenges for large vs small managers How Longview manages liquidity, turnover, and trading costs The potential impact of AI on factor investing Future opportunities in implementation alpha and ETF design Matt’s biggest investing belief most peers disagree with The key lesson he would teach the average investor Timestamps: 00:00 Value vs returns and factor investing basics 03:00 From engineering and Boeing to investing 06:15 Time at DFA and lessons in evidence-based investing 07:30 What evidence-based investing really means 09:25 Defining factors and what makes them valid 12:00 Using value, profitability, size, and momentum 16:00 Large cap tech dominance and future returns 18:00 Mean reversion and whether the world has changed 20:00 How long does value need to struggle before it’s “dead”? 22:30 Should value be redefined for intangibles? 25:30 Intangibles, R&D, and why adjustments add noise 27:00 Value’s performance across economic cycles and migration 30:00 Interest rates, growth, and value performance 32:00 Factor timing and valuation spreads 34:15 The role of momentum in timing and implementation 35:00 How Longview applies passive-aggressive tilts 36:30 Combining factors vs sleeve approaches 39:00 How momentum is used in practice 41:30 Factor migration and average holding periods 43:00 The size premium and whether it still exists 44:30 The benefits of being nimble vs large fund families 47:30 Liquidity challenges in small cap value 52:00 The role of AI in investing 54:00 Where implementation adds the most alpha 55:30 One belief Matt holds that peers may disagree with 57:20 The one lesson for the average investor

    59 phút
  3. 3 NGÀY TRƯỚC

    A Volatility Masterclass | Timeless Lessons from 30 Year Options Trader Noel Smith

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we’re joined by Noel Smith, co-founder and CIO of Convex Asset Management. Noel shares his unique journey from biochemistry and the military to market making, high-frequency trading, and running a volatility-focused hedge fund. We dig deep into volatility, regime models, income strategies, dispersion, tail hedging, and more, offering a rare look inside the world of professional options and volatility trading. Topics covered: Noel’s background: biochemistry, military, market making, HFT, hedge fund launch How markets have evolved since the 1990s Why volatility is the best source of market information Regime shift modeling and its role in strategy selection Using options for income and the trade-offs investors should understand Volatility harvesting and risk-defined short vol strategies The impact of zero DTE options on markets Dispersion trading and correlation dynamics Bond vol arbitrage and volatility surfaces Opportunistic trades like GameStop and meme stocks Tail hedging, its costs, and how to monetize hedges Lessons on flexibility, risk, and never being married to positions Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and Noel’s unique background 06:00 How markets have changed behind the scenes 07:00 Why volatility is the best information source 09:00 Regime shift model explained 19:00 Using options for income – benefits and risks 24:30 Volatility harvesting strategies 29:10 What the VIX does (and doesn’t) tell you 30:30 Zero DTE options and systemic risk 33:20 Dispersion trading explained 42:00 Bond vol arbitrage 45:00 Opportunistic trades: GameStop and beyond 51:30 Tail hedging and rebalancing 54:30 Lessons on flexibility and risk management

    1 giờ 2 phút
  4. 6 NGÀY TRƯỚC

    A Practical Guide to Market Valuation with Ben Carlson

    In this episode, we sit down with Ben Carlson of Ritholtz Wealth Management and A Wealth of Common Sense to talk about market valuations, the rise of AI, investor behavior, and what history can teach us about investing today. Ben shares his perspective on why valuations are harder to use than ever, how market structure has shifted, and the lessons he’s learned as both a writer and an investor navigating major market cycles. Topics covered in this episode: Why market valuations are harder to use today than in the past The impact of buybacks, margins, and technology on long-term comparisons Market concentration and the dominance of mega-cap tech stocks Passive investing flows, investor behavior, and government backstops How AI compares to past technological innovations and its investment implications Value versus growth cycles and why U.S. tech has broken historical norms The lessons of the NASDAQ since 2000 and defining the long term for investors Personal experiences from the 2008 financial crisis and the power of compounding Diversification, gold’s surprising performance, and the case for international investing Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and market valuations 06:00 Structural changes and the role of buybacks 09:00 Margins, efficiency, and corporate dominance 12:00 Market concentration and the rise of mega-cap tech 14:00 Passive investing and household stock ownership 18:00 Government backstops and market resilience 23:00 Valuations as expectations vs. predictions 25:00 AI boom and capital allocation 29:00 Is this 1996 or 1999? Bubble comparisons 32:00 How AI may reshape investing and daily life 41:00 Investing in breakthrough technologies 43:00 Value versus growth cycles in the U.S. and abroad 46:00 Lessons from the NASDAQ and defining long-term investing 49:00 Compounding lessons from the 2008 financial crisis 53:00 Diversification, gold, and international performance

    56 phút
  5. 27 THG 9

    The New Valuation Regime | Jim Paulsen on Confidence, Inflation and the Coming Market Supports

    In this episode, we sit down with Jim Paulsen to analyze the latest economic and market data through his lens of decades of market experience. Jim shares insights from his Paulsen Perspectives research, covering the job market, the Fed, inflation, valuations, investor confidence, and what they all mean for the future of the economy and markets. We explore why confidence is so low despite a bull market, how Fed policy is shaping market dynamics, and where investors might want to focus as the cycle evolves. Topics covered in the episode: The job market’s pivotal role in driving the economy and Fed decisions Why recent Fed rate cuts may mark a turning point in market support systems The narrowness of the bull market and how innovation-driven firms diverge from traditional cycles Investor confidence, the “misery index,” and recession probability models How easing may broaden market participation beyond large-cap growth What “animal spirits” mean for small caps, high beta, and IPOs The disconnect between inflation, bond yields, and growth measures Gold, cash, crypto, and tech as “fear assets” in today’s environment The impact of tariffs on profits, wages, and inflation expectations Valuations in context: historical perspective and the upward bias of multiples Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and market overview02:00 Fed easing, inflation, and recession risks09:00 Bull market without normal supports17:00 Narrow leadership and innovative companies23:55 Confidence and the misery index29:35 Yield curve, recession probabilities, and Fed policy34:00 Broadening of market participation37:00 Animal spirit stocks and small caps38:00 Inflation, bond yields, and resource unemployment43:20 Copper-gold ratio and yields45:10 The role of gold in portfolios50:00 Cash, crypto, and tech as defensive assets54:00 Tariffs, inflation, and profit margins59:00 Inflation persistence vs. wage growth01:01:10 Valuations and the upward bias in multiples01:07:00 Closing thoughts and takeaways

    1 giờ 9 phút
  6. 25 THG 9

    Finding the Next Great Tech Compounders | John Tinsman

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with John Tinsman, portfolio manager of the AOT Growth and Innovation ETF (AOTG). John shares how his investing journey began, the lessons he learned from both successes and failures, and how those experiences shaped his current investment philosophy. We dive deep into the concepts of low marginal cost, profitable growth, digital toll booths, and the transformative impact of AI. John also discusses his approach to valuation, position sizing, and why he believes large-cap growth and technology will continue to lead in the years ahead. Main topics covered: John’s path from personal investing to launching an ETF Lessons learned from early stock picks and market-making experience The power of low marginal cost businesses and long-term compounding How AI is reshaping software development, innovation, and profitability The importance of revenue and earnings growth in stock selection Digital toll booths as the future of software business models Differences between profitable vs. unprofitable growth companies Why technology leadership today differs from the dot-com era The role of sectors, valuation, and position sizing in portfolio construction John’s views on growth vs. value, large-cap vs. small-cap, and future innovation trends Timestamps: 00:00 The riskiest thing in investing 02:00 John’s background and early investing journey 05:00 Lessons from Apple, Boeing, Visa, and Potash 10:00 Insights from agriculture and value investing 12:00 AI’s impact on software development and innovation 16:00 Sectors, classifications, and thematic approaches 18:00 Comparing AI disruption to past bubbles 21:00 Profitability in today’s tech companies 22:00 Will the top companies stay dominant? 26:00 Large-cap vs. small-cap technology investing 28:00 Growth vs. value in today’s market 30:00 Demographics, Buffett’s lessons, and sector shifts 34:00 Value vs. software companies 35:00 Digital toll booths explained 37:00 Growth sustainability and digital infrastructure 40:00 Semiconductor cycles and long-term demand 44:00 Screening for growth and low marginal cost 47:00 Sell discipline and valuation checks 49:00 Position sizing and portfolio management 51:00 ETF tax benefits and structure 53:00 Where AOTG fits in portfolios 54:00 One belief peers disagree with 56:00 One lesson for the average investor 57:00 Closing thoughts and outro

    57 phút
  7. 22 THG 9

    Finding Decade-Long Compounders with Joseph Shaposhnik

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Joseph Shaposhnik, founder of Rainwater Equity and former star portfolio manager at TCW. Joseph shares the investment philosophy that drove his track record of outperformance, why he focuses on recurring revenue businesses, and how he evaluates management quality and capital allocation. We also explore lessons from great investors like Warren Buffett, Bill Miller, and Peter Lynch, along with insights on valuation, portfolio concentration, and the role of passive investing in today’s markets. Main topics covered: How Joseph achieved long-term outperformance at TCW and what drove his results Why recurring revenue and predictable cash flows are central to his approach The importance of management quality and identifying “fanatics” vs. mercenaries Lessons investors should and should not take from Warren Buffett Bill Miller’s influence and backing of Rainwater Equity Characteristics Joseph looks for in great businesses and red flags in management teams Portfolio concentration, position sizing, and risk management Why you don’t need to have an opinion on every sector Selling discipline and knowing when it’s time to move on How valuation fits into his framework and how he thinks about paying up for quality The impact of passive investing and why active managers must take a long-term view Stories and lessons from Peter Lynch, including his enduring influence Timestamps: 0:00 If a stock has doubled, you haven’t missed it 1:00 Introduction and Joseph’s track record at TCW 2:00 Keys to long-term outperformance 8:00 Lessons from Warren Buffett’s wins and mistakes 11:30 Bill Miller’s influence and support for Rainwater Equity 14:00 What defines a high-quality business 20:00 Free cash flow compounding and moats 24:00 Red flags in management teams 31:00 Why active management is broken and Joseph’s solution 35:00 Portfolio concentration and risk management 42:00 Sectors to avoid and why 47:00 Joseph’s selling discipline 53:00 Exceptional leaders and the role of management quality 58:00 Valuation, future value, and the changing economy 1:04:00 Passive investing and market distortions 1:09:00 Lessons and stories from Peter Lynch 1:14:00 Closing questions and key investing lessons 1:20:00 Where to learn more about Joseph and Rainwater Equity

    1 giờ 22 phút
  8. 20 THG 9

    The Average Return That Never Comes | Sam Ro on 10 Stock Market Truths Investors Get Wrong

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Sam Ro to revisit his widely read post “10 Stock Market Truths” and explore how each principle holds up in today’s market. From the long game of investing to short-term risks, valuations, AI, and earnings, Sam shares a timeless framework for navigating markets and separating noise from signal. Topics covered: • Why the long game is undefeated • Short-term volatility and how to prepare for it • The myth of average returns • Asymmetric upside in markets and stocks • AI as both opportunity and risk • Earnings as the ultimate driver of stock prices • Why valuations don’t predict the next year • The role of uncertainty and hidden risks • Turnover and evolution within the stock market • Why the stock market isn’t the economy Timestamps: 00:00 Average returns are misleading 02:00 Introducing Sam Ro 02:15 Truth #1: The long game is undefeated 08:40 Truth #2: You can get smoked in the short term 14:20 Do markets have a government backstop? 18:00 Truth #3: The myth of average returns 23:00 Truth #4: Asymmetric upside 28:00 AI as macro and micro driver 33:00 Truth #5: Earnings drive stock prices 36:30 Truth #6: Valuations won’t tell you much about next year 51:40 Truth #7: There will always be something to worry about 55:20 Truth #8: The destabilizing risks are the ones people aren’t talking about 01:05:00 Truth #9: There’s a lot of turnover in markets 01:11:00 Truth #10: The stock market isn’t the economy 01:20:00 Closing thoughts

    1 giờ 26 phút
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Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.

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