A Public Affair

Douglas Haynes, Ali Muldrow, Carousel Bayrd, Allen Ruff, & Esty Dinur

Listener Sponsored Community Radio in Madison, WI

  1. 2D AGO

    You Can Learn a Lot of Things from the Flowers

    Combining scientific study with lived experience, David George Haskell’s latest book, How Flowers Made Our World: The Story of Nature’s Revolutionaries, tells the story of the adaptability and cooperative nature of flowering plants. He joins host Esty Dinur to discuss how flowers are not only pretty but powerful. Around 200 million years ago when flowering plants emerged, they changed the ecology of the world, shaping human agriculture and whole dynasties of creatures like bees and butterflies. Haskell describes how flowers learned to build attractive structures to gain diligent pollinators and how they reinvented botanical motherhood. Primarily, they transformed the world through cooperation with insects, grazing animals, fungi, bacteria, and other plants. When they struggled, they reached out to others. Now, flowering plants face new struggles from climate change and all its effects.  They also discuss the mosaic of plants and non-human life in the Driftless, the importance of soil, seagrass meadows in the ocean, and how nectar is nature’s drug cocktail. Haskell also connects plants’ struggles against erosion, land conservation, pollution, etc. with human struggles for liberation and civil rights. At the end of the day, humans can learn how to cultivate symbiosis, not exploitation, from flowering plants.  David George Haskell is a writer and biologist acclaimed for his lyrical explorations of the living world. His most recent book, How Flowers Made our World, explores the creative powers of flowering plants. Haskell is a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in General Nonfiction. Featured image of the cover of How Flowers Made Our World: The Story of Nature’s Revolutionaries. Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post You Can Learn a Lot of Things from the Flowers appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    55 min
  2. 3D AGO

    A Madison Space By and For the Black Community

    Last week, The Center for Black Excellence and Culture held its grand opening, and a crowd of around 1,500 people showed up to tour the space and celebrate. On today’s show, host Enjoyiana Nururdin speaks with Ms. Lilada Gee, the co-founder of the Center about the planning, implementation, and legacy of this space that is “by and for the Black community.” Gee says that there’s no space like the Center in Madison or in the world, as she heard from the consulting firm they worked with. Built in between two Trump presidencies, the Center represents the dedication of Black Madisonians to creating a legacy and honoring local Black history. Much of the early fundraising was done by the Black community, particularly Black women like Frances Huntly-Cooper, Kirbie Mack, and Kesha Bozeman. Gee says she’s proud that the Center will elevate “Black brilliance, innovation, and creativity.”  There are considerable racial disparities for Black Madisonians, which is why Gee and the other leaders of the Center wanted to create a space where people could find hope, make intergenerational connections, and honor the many ethnicities within the Black diaspora. Gee painted a mural for and designed the Black Women’s Wing. And she says that the center will be a place where the Black community can create their own legacies.  The Center will open to the public starting July 1, when folks can start participating in events and workshops. Lilada Gee is an artist, muralist, healer, preacher, author and international inspirational speaker and podcast host. Drawing upon her experiences as a survivor of both childhood sexual abuse and domestic violence, Lilada founded the non-profit organization—Defending Black Girlhood—that specializes in advocating for Black girls being safe in their homes, schools and communities to live, learn and be loved. Via her Black Woman Heal Collective, she has sparked an international healing movement throughout the African Diaspora that empowers Black women to create safe places for themselves and Black girls to heal. Lilada is a life-long Madison, Wisconsin resident and mother of two awesome adult children–Alexandra and Christian. Featured image of the exterior of The Center for Black Excellence and culture courtesy of Brian Standing/WORT. Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post A Madison Space By and For the Black Community appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    51 min
  3. 4D AGO

    Youth Poetry Anthology Destigmatizes Family Incarceration

    Young people are too often victims of our broken criminal justice system. 1 in 14 US children either has or has had a parent behind bars. Our friends at the PATHfinders and POPS Club are doing the vital work of supporting these youth, including publishing their poetry. Today host Ali Muldrow is in conversation with Victor Trillo Jr., Amy Friedman, and one of the youth poets, Darrione, about their 11th anthology, A Secret Chord: Poetry, Stories & Art. A Secret Chord features creative works by 60 teens impacted by incarceration, detention, and deportation. Darrione is one of those teens. She learned to see herself as a writer through the club and the mentorship of Victor. She says she’s come to see that her writing can connect with others and she plans to publish her own book one day. Darrione reads from her poem, “My Skin,” which is full of heartbreak and triumph in the tradition of Patricia Smith. They talk about how this anthology stands out from previous versions and how it centers music and visual art. Friedman says she’s constantly reminded of young people’s honesty and courage in their writing. And Trillo has committed himself to being the mentor that he didn’t have when he was young and his father was incarcerated. Victor Trillo Jr. is a founding team member of The PATHfinder Club and works as the Program Manager for The PATHfinder and POPS the Club, employing his deep understanding of the impact of incarceration on individuals, first as the son of a man who was in prison throughout Victor’s childhood, and later incarcerated himself. He is a powerful advocate for children of the incarcerated. Amy Friedman is an author, editor, and criminal justice activist, who founded POPS the Club in 2013, as an inclusive space for youth who have been stigmatized and silenced by their experiences with the criminal justice system. Having been previously married to a man who was in prison, Amy’s stepdaughters inspired her to find a way to support youth in ways that her girls never were.  Featured image of the cover of A Secret Chord: Poetry, Stories & Art. Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post Youth Poetry Anthology Destigmatizes Family Incarceration appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    54 min
  4. 5D AGO

    Araceli Esparza on Finding your Authentic Voice in the Workplace

    On today’s show, host Dana Pellebon is in conversation with Araceli Esparza about her new book, Healing from Racial Discrimination! ¿Ahora Que? Now, What? Esparza says that freeing your voice is an action, but it takes healing to get there. She offers advice on how to address discrimination in the workplace when EEOC and HR offices too often protect the company instead of vulnerable employees. Esparza writes about how she turned to traditional Latin American healing methods like making altars and reports on the rituals she practiced in order to find healing and her authentic self. She also describes the sense of rejection she felt when her allies didn’t show up, and how exhausting it can be to be a woman of color in the nonprofit world. They also discuss what it means to stand up and end the silence about racial discrimination at a time when Latinx folks are being abducted by the Trump administration.  Araceli Esparza is a first-generation Chicana writer, speaker, and community organizer based in Madison, Wisconsin. She is the founder and Executive Director of Midwest Mujeres, a nonprofit focused on storytelling, leadership, and economic empowerment for Latina and Black women. Through her work, Araceli has helped hundreds of women use storytelling as a tool for healing, visibility, and professional growth. She is also a published poet, podcast host, and public speaker whose work explores identity, survival, womanhood, racial justice, and the power of community. Araceli is the author of the upcoming book I Don’t Have a Home to Go Back To: Seven Strategies for Navigating Healing from Homelessness as a Latina, a deeply personal and reflective work about resilience, belonging, and healing from generational hardship. Her work has been featured through Wisconsin community media, storytelling events, and leadership spaces across the Midwest. Araceli believes that when we tell the story that sets us free, we can help set others free too. Featured image of the cover of Healing from Racial Discrimination! ¿Ahora Que? Now, What? Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post Araceli Esparza on Finding your Authentic Voice in the Workplace appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    55 min
  5. 6D AGO

    The Good Problems Facing Olbrich Gardens

    Madison’s beloved Olbrich Botanical Gardens welcomed almost 400,000 visitors last year. However, it was designed to handle less than half of that amount. This year, the Gardens with the partnership of Madison’s Parks Division embarked on a master planning process to ensure the future of the Gardens including expanding its physical space as well as services. To talk about this process, Douglas Haynes hosts a roundtable discussion with Hilary Gerstein, Eric Knepp, and Tanya Zastrow. The Olbrich Botanical Gardens benefit humans and non-humans in the area alike through conservation projects, special events, and more. Zastrow talks about the rusty patch bumblebees, chipmunks, and Sherman the turkey who call the park home. The Gardens are managed through a public-private partnership, between the Olbrich Botanical Society and the City of Madison Parks division. Knepp describes the history of the Gardens, from the construction of the Bolz Conservatory in 1991 to the 2009 expansion across Starkweather Creek. He says that people choose the garden for its beauty and tranquility, but also its affordability. Zastrow discusses the master planning process that will be the “roadmap for the future” as the Gardens nears its 75th year. Gerstein describes the work of the Friends of Olbrich Park, who plan native plantings like a new bur oak and service berry tree to trash pick ups. The Friends group is trying to get information about the master plan into the hands of community members. On May 20, a final framework of the new master plan will be presented to the public. You can learn more here. Hilary Gerstein is Vice President of Friends of Olbrich Park. Eric Knepp is the City of Madison Parks Superintendent. He has worked at the City of Madison since 2006. Tanya Zastrow has worked as Executive Director of Olbrich Botanical Gardens since 2022. Featured image of the Bolz Conservatory at the Olbrich Botanical Gardens via Wikimedia Commons. Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post The Good Problems Facing Olbrich Gardens appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    55 min
  6. MAY 8

    Lessons from Minneapolis Anti-ICE Organizers

    Though Operation Metro Surge has officially ended, the Trump administration continues to abduct people from the Twin Cities. Three people were also taken from Madison this week, and Salah Sarsour, the president of Wisconsin’s largest mosque, was detained on April 3 and remains in ICE detention. In response, host Esty Dinur is in conversation with two organizers with Workers’ Solidary Circle–Kip Hedges and Cal Robinette–about the lessons other communities can learn from ICE resistance in the Twin Cities.   Reflecting on the last few months, Hedges says that they’ve achieved a “partial victory” against the Trump regime and its immigration policies. The victory is partial because racial profiling, police brutality, and the effects of living under occupation continue. Robinette says that the rapid response infrastructure is changing as the number of abductions decrease, but hyper-local organizing is still the focus of the resistance.  There is still work to do. Robinette describes the impending eviction crisis and how Minneapolis is attempting to build a $38 million “cop city” for training police and other first responders. They also discuss the role of labor unions like IBEW and teachers unions in organizing resistance.  Kip Hedges is a long time working class organizer, who worked for 30 years as a baggage handler for Delta Air Lines. He is a retired member of the Machinists Union and member of Workers’ Solidarity Circle and DSA. Cal Robinette is a member of the IBEW and helped get an anti ICE resolution passed in his local. He is also a member of Workers’ Solidarity Circle. Featured image from an anti-ice protest from January 2026 via Wikimedia Commons (CC BY 4.0).  Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post Lessons from Minneapolis Anti-ICE Organizers appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    53 min
  7. MAY 7

    No Longer On Fire for God

    For decades the Christian Right has worked to “Christianize” the federal government, arm Israel, eliminate reproductive and civil rights, and they seem to be succeeding. On today’s show, Sara Gabler speaks with journalist Josiah Hesse about what it’s like to grow up inside an Evangelical world and then leave it. Hesse writes about his experience in his new book, On Fire for God: Fear, Shame, Poverty, and the Making of the Christian Right – a Personal History. They discuss how Hesse’s training as a journalist informed his writing of the memoir, including how he approached interviewing friends and family members with curiosity. He says that he’s proud that the book has been marketed as “one part Educated, one part rebuttal to Hillbilly Elegy” because he wanted to convey the emotional world of growing up inside an extremist religious group as Tara Westover did but also counteract the blaming of people in poverty that J.D. Vance’s book participated in.  Hesse describes the overwhelming sense of fear and shame that he learned from his religious upbringing and how it has taken even longer to unlearn. Evangelicals have built an entire culture industry to make sure that their flocks don’t have to leave the fold–from schools to Christian radio and rock music, and more. He shares his pathway out of this world and how the ideology of rugged individualism keeps people trapped. Josiah Hesse, author of On Fire for God, Runner’s High and the Carnality series, is a freelance journalist out of Denver, Colorado, covering everything from politics, science, and crime, to art, pop culture, and evangelical culture and theology. A regular contributor to The Guardian and Vice, his work has appeared in Esquire, Newsweek, Men’s Health, and Politico, among other publications. Featured image of the cover of On Fire for God. Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post No Longer On Fire for God appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    53 min
  8. MAY 6

    Writer Dasha Kelly Quilts a Story of Mortality

    On today’s edition of “Ali’s Book Club,” we celebrate the publication of Baker’s Dozen by Dasha Kelly, a book that grapples with mortality, grief, and desire. Kelly says that her characters, like the lead character named Shay in Baker’s Dozen, find her on purpose and then she “quilts” them into the story.  Baker’s Dozen is haunted from beginning to end with the loss of Shay who takes her own life. Kelly says that it’s in moments of loss that people become the most empathetic, whether that loss is from death, a breakup, or the disintegration of a friendship. The other characters in the novel process their loss and what it means to be left behind all the while trying to destigmatize death and suicide. Their conversation weaves through the ways that people experience grief, loss, and their own mortality. Muldrow asks, “would you rather know or not know when the end of your life will come?” Kelly says that we’re “all energy” and that parts of our loved ones and ancestors remain with us when they’re gone and how this shapes her writing. They also discuss the afterlife, the cosmos, ancestors, and how funerals can be the best celebrations.  Baker’s Dozen is on sale June 4.  Dasha Kelly is a writer, performance artist and creative change agent. She has authored award-winning poetry, essays and fiction. She is a mainstage storyteller and host with The Moth, an alum of HBO’s Def Poetry Jam,  Poet Laureate Emerita for both the City of Milwaukee and the State of Wisconsin and a National Laureate Fellow with the American Academy of Poets. In 2024, Dasha was named a Living Legacy Honoree by the licensing agency for the legendary poet Gwendolyn Brooks. A skilled engagement practitioner and instructor, Dasha has facilitated initiatives in Botswana, Mauritius and Beirut as an Arts Envoy for the U.S. Embassy. Her nationally-touring stage show, Makin’ Cake, serves audiences a unique conversation on race, class and equity. Her documentary film of the same title premiered this spring. Her nonprofit literary arts organization, Still Waters Collective, recently celebrated its 25th anniversary. Dasha’s recent releases are a poetry anthology, A Line Meant (Jaded Ibis Press), a 10th anniversary reprint of Almost Crimson (Traitmarker Books), and a new novel, Baker’s Dozen (Jaded Ibis). Featured image of the cover of Baker’s Dozen.  Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post Writer Dasha Kelly Quilts a Story of Mortality appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    55 min
  9. MAY 5

    Anti-Oppression Work in Madison’s White Spaces

    On today’s show, host Dana Pellebon is in conversation with April Kigeya and Linda Ketcham about their struggles doing anti-oppression work in majority white spaces. They focus on their work in the Madison chapter of the Rotary Club, an international service club, and the insidious forms of racism and sexism they faced there. They joined Rotary because it is a good place to network, meet business leaders in the community, fundraise, and connect with members of the public. After joining, Pellebon and Kigeya say they were immediately met with racism and sexism. They describe the dominant white, male, and wealthy space as unwelcoming and culturally uninterested in repairing harm. They discuss a particular incident where a member used a racial slur and how the institutional response was to focus on damage control and protecting the reputation of the organization rather than accountability. They all worked on the organization’s DEI committee, but Pellebon and Kigeya found that trying to work for change within the organization came at too high a cost.  Linda Ketcham is the Executive Director of JustDane. April Kigeya is a mother of four children and former Vice Chair of the Dane County Board. In 2020 April was named one of Wisconsin’s most influential Black leaders and was the first person of color to serve on the Middleton Police Commission, where she served as the Co-Chair from 2021-2022. She is currently attending Edgewood college where is a PhD candidate in Business Administration. She is also the author of Couch Confessions: The Chronicles of a Black Woman in Therapy. Dana Pellebon serves as the Executive Director of RCC Sexual Violence Resource Center, in Dane County and coordinates community partnerships for county-wide sexual assault victim services through the Sexual Assault Response Team, the Commission on Sensitive Crimes, and the Domestic Violence and Sexual Violence Coordinated Community Response Team. She is also a theatre professional and former Dane County Board supervisor. Featured image via Pexels. Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post Anti-Oppression Work in Madison’s White Spaces appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    54 min
  10. MAY 4

    Can We Normalize Climate Anxiety?

    There’s no shortage of bad climate news: unprecedented heat, US cities running out of water, the potential collapse of the Gulf Stream, etc. The compounding effects of the climate crisis are leaving people overwhelmed and disempowered. But on today’s show host Douglas Haynes focuses on how to cope with climate anxiety. He’s joined by climate therapist, Leslie Davenport, who is a leader in the field of climate-aware therapy.  Climate therapy is an emerging specialization that came about because more and more people were showing up to therapy distressed about the climate crisis. Davenport says that climate-aware therapy starts with validating feelings of anger, fear, or grief. She says these are normal, even healthy, reactions because we’re wired to care about and pay attention to destructive systems. Unlike the focus of conventional therapy, climate anxiety isn’t a personal problem in need of traditional diagnosis and it also unique because it may not resolve in the way that other anxieties can resolve. Davenport says there’s a broad range of applications of climate therapy. She has worked with schools to adapt curriculum on emotional resiliency and has helped climate advocates and disaster response groups. Emotional resilience is typically understood as how quickly a person can get back to their baseline, but with the climate crisis, there’s no going back to a past baseline. Instead, Davenport defines emotional resiliency as “building the capacity to remain grounded, clear-minded, open-hearted, and empathetic in the face of increasing stress.” They also discuss “guerilla therapy,” how to take on climate advocacy in your sphere of influence, and Davenport’s advice column on Grist. Her readers ask her about how to talk to their friends about the climate crisis without judgement, how to address their feelings of guilt around traveling, and how to plan for their future when it feels like there is no hope. She says that working for change doesn’t mean we have to be perfect because larger systems constrain us from living fully by our values.  Leslie Davenport is a climate psychology educator, consultant, and therapist who brings audiences science, strategy, and heart to navigate eco-emotions for a more just world. She is the columnist for Grist, where she writes the advice column “Ask A Climate Therapist.” Leslie leads the Climate Psychology Certification program at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and her latest book, Transforming Climate Anxiety: A Workbook for Courage, Clarity, and Collective Action, comes out in August. Featured image via Wikimedia Commons (CC0 1.0).  Did you enjoy this story? Your funding makes great, local journalism like this possible. Donate here The post Can We Normalize Climate Anxiety? appeared first on WORT-FM 89.9.

    53 min

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